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Lab with undiagnosed condition
I have a female lab, not spayed, who we found as a 1-2 year old stray
and had unknown number of litters 6 years ago. She has the following symptoms and my vet has not been able to diagnose her seeming fatal disease. For 3 week she has been drinking water insatiably and peeing (lots!) in the house which she never ever did before. The vet at first thought cancer when he felt her mammarys and they were rather lumpy and hard. But he put her on antibiotics (this was almost 2 weeks ago) because of the incessant drinking and peeing led him to believe it was an infection. Her eyes just one day soon after started to look very tired, the lower lids drooped and what looks like cataracts appeared all at once in the corners, and the whites got much redder than usual. She was very lethargic, and looking back now, probably the first symptom I noticed even before the peeing in the house was slowing down and favoring her back legs when I took her for a walk, not limping, but as if pain was making it hard for her to move them. While her mammaries are hardening in the last few days, she is slowing down more, and 3 days ago I noticed a lesion that she was licking on her hind leg, like a big bloody mosquito bite or a puncture wound. My vet is stymied - x rays, ulrasound, blood tests and urinalysis all are inconclusive, showing no clear reasons for the symptoms. Anyone having some experience with this behavior in a lab, please share. She is fading fast and I may take her in to another vet and see if I can put her on an IV tonight if she keeps getting worse, because she's finally stopped drinking so much water, but now seems nearly unable to and uninterested in drinking or eating. TIA bob "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." -- Galileo Galilei |
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"Smashing Bob" wrote in message
... For 3 week she has been drinking water insatiably and peeing (lots!) in the house which she never ever did before. The vet at first thought cancer when he felt her mammarys and they were rather lumpy and hard. .. Her eyes just one day soon after started to look very tired, the lower lids drooped and what looks like cataracts appeared all at once in the corners, and the whites got much redder than usual. She was very lethargic, and looking back now, probably the first symptom I noticed even before the peeing in the house was slowing down and favoring her back legs when I took her for a walk, not limping, but as if pain was making it hard for her to move them. ..........I don't know about the lumpy breasts, but did your vet test for Addison's disease? If she has untreated Addison's she may be in critical condition at this point and need emergency care as it can become a crisis situation. Droopy eyelids are sometimes a marker for Cushings also, another endocrine disease. I also wonder about some of the tick diseases, but I would think that kidney or liver function would be compromised and show up in the bloodwork. ........I'd get your pup to an emergency clinic. Please let us know what's going on. All paws crossed here for you and her. You might also post this in alt.med.veterinary if you haven't already. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:47:59 -0600, Smashing Bob
wrote: I have a female lab, not spayed, who we found as a 1-2 year old stray and had unknown number of litters 6 years ago. Why haven't you spayed her? She has the following symptoms and my vet has not been able to diagnose her seeming fatal disease. Have they totally ruled out cancer? -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...ence/my_photos |
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"Janet B" wrote in message ... Why haven't you spayed her? ............at this point, with the shape the dog is in, that is a totally irrelevant question. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:53:05 GMT, "buglady"
wrote: ...........at this point, with the shape the dog is in, that is a totally irrelevant question. I dunno - if it helps a future dog........ -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...ence/my_photos |
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"Janet B" wrote in message ... I dunno - if it helps a future dog........ ..........you're not asking a *future* dog - you're poking a sharp stick at someone who's down. The world will never work as you want it to anyway, so that question is never relevant AFAIC. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 22:39:12 GMT, "buglady"
wrote: .........you're not asking a *future* dog - you're poking a sharp stick at someone who's down. The world will never work as you want it to anyway, so that question is never relevant AFAIC. It honestly was not meant that way. I am genuinely curious - was there a medical or other reason? Poor girl must be awfully uncomfortable right now, so I hope her condition is resolved soon. -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...ence/my_photos |
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has the vet checked her for diabetes mellitus or diabetes insipidus? Too
much blood sugar would cause her to pee lots and excess thirst (D mellitus), and a fault with antidiuretic hormone secretion from the pituitary gland could cause the excess thirst and excess pee (D insipidus) "Smashing Bob" wrote in message ... I have a female lab, not spayed, who we found as a 1-2 year old stray and had unknown number of litters 6 years ago. She has the following symptoms and my vet has not been able to diagnose her seeming fatal disease. For 3 week she has been drinking water insatiably and peeing (lots!) in the house which she never ever did before. The vet at first thought cancer when he felt her mammarys and they were rather lumpy and hard. But he put her on antibiotics (this was almost 2 weeks ago) because of the incessant drinking and peeing led him to believe it was an infection. Her eyes just one day soon after started to look very tired, the lower lids drooped and what looks like cataracts appeared all at once in the corners, and the whites got much redder than usual. She was very lethargic, and looking back now, probably the first symptom I noticed even before the peeing in the house was slowing down and favoring her back legs when I took her for a walk, not limping, but as if pain was making it hard for her to move them. While her mammaries are hardening in the last few days, she is slowing down more, and 3 days ago I noticed a lesion that she was licking on her hind leg, like a big bloody mosquito bite or a puncture wound. My vet is stymied - x rays, ulrasound, blood tests and urinalysis all are inconclusive, showing no clear reasons for the symptoms. Anyone having some experience with this behavior in a lab, please share. She is fading fast and I may take her in to another vet and see if I can put her on an IV tonight if she keeps getting worse, because she's finally stopped drinking so much water, but now seems nearly unable to and uninterested in drinking or eating. TIA bob "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." -- Galileo Galilei |
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This is a reply to buglady's and everone else's caring and concerned
posts concerning Tania's condition. I'm sorry to say she is no longer with us. After an emergency exploratory surgery early this morning we decided to let her go quietly and without pain while she was under anesthesia on the operating table. Large pockets of cancer were causing bleeding in her abdomen. She was a brave pup. I don't have too much else to say now other than to thank ALL of you for caring enough to reply and that I believe all who did reply had the best of intentions for my lovely tania. She was a sweetheart and you all would have fallen in love with her at first sight as I did. I don't feel proud of some of my actions or inaction as her caretaker over the last 6 years, but I was proud to be her friend. thanks again for caring about her, bob and to buglady in particular: Thanks to your sig I made sure i took my 12 year old shepard mix, BJ out for a long walk in the snow before replying. Moby the cat was also welcome but he stayed home in his warm chair. On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:44:16 GMT, "buglady" wrote: "Smashing Bob" wrote in message .. . For 3 week she has been drinking water insatiably and peeing (lots!) in the house which she never ever did before. The vet at first thought cancer when he felt her mammarys and they were rather lumpy and hard. . Her eyes just one day soon after started to look very tired, the lower lids drooped and what looks like cataracts appeared all at once in the corners, and the whites got much redder than usual. She was very lethargic, and looking back now, probably the first symptom I noticed even before the peeing in the house was slowing down and favoring her back legs when I took her for a walk, not limping, but as if pain was making it hard for her to move them. .........I don't know about the lumpy breasts, but did your vet test for Addison's disease? If she has untreated Addison's she may be in critical condition at this point and need emergency care as it can become a crisis situation. Droopy eyelids are sometimes a marker for Cushings also, another endocrine disease. I also wonder about some of the tick diseases, but I would think that kidney or liver function would be compromised and show up in the bloodwork. .......I'd get your pup to an emergency clinic. Please let us know what's going on. All paws crossed here for you and her. You might also post this in alt.med.veterinary if you haven't already. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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"Smashing Bob" wrote in message
... I'm sorry to say she is no longer with us. After an emergency exploratory surgery early this morning we decided to let her go quietly and without pain while she was under anesthesia on the operating table. Large pockets of cancer were causing bleeding in her abdomen. ...........I'm so sorry. There's nothing worse than losing a good friend. May you remember the good times and may she be on a good journey. My condolences buglady take out the dog before replying and to buglady in particular: Thanks to your sig I made sure i took my 12 year old shepard mix, BJ out for a long walk in the snow before replying. .........I'm sure he appreciated it! |
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