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Gaubster is Steve Crane's sock puppet -- it's now official!!!
For the record, I'm no one's "sock puppet". I don't speak for Hill's or Steve Crane or for anyone other than myself. I find it quite telling that instead of debating points that I make here (or those points made by people that are NOT Hill's Haters), the Hill's Haters, instead, attempt to smear, impugn, call names, or otherwise try to slime someone. Steve gets attacked for "working" for Hill's. I get "attacked" for sticking up for Hill's. And it goes on and on. Now, would anyone like to actually, try to...you know, intelligently refute anything that I've said here?? Or you would you like to bash and attack and sink to the lowest common denominator? |
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Gaubster, the cat's out of the bag!
How did you manage to post as Gaubster from the Hill's corporation if you don't work for them???? One Trick Pony Indeed! :-) IP Posting address from the Gaubster! 198.179.238.3 Network Whois record Queried whois.arin.net with "198.179.238.3"... OrgName: Hill's Pet Nutrition OrgID: HPN Address: 400 S. W. Eighth City: Topeka StateProv: KS PostalCode: 66603-3945 Country: US NetRange: 198.179.238.0 - 198.179.238.255 CIDR: 198.179.238.0/24 NetName: HILLSPET NetHandle: NET-198-179-238-0-1 Parent: NET-198-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment Comment: RegDate: 1993-11-18 Updated: 1993-11-18 |
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I checked about 100 posts and this is about all I could find:
For Steve Crane: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.82.9.85 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.179.238.3 For Gaubuster: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.22.62.89 I never found a post from Gaubuster from: NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.179.238.3 ********************************************* Here is what http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl reports about these IP addresses: Gaubuster: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.22.62.89 Comcast Cable Communications, IP Services EASTERNSHORE-1 (NET-24-16-0-0-1) 24.16.0.0 - 24.23.255.255 Comcast Cable Communications OREGON-9 (NET-24-22-0-0-1) 24.22.0.0 - 24.22.63.255 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-03-11 19:10 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. ************************************************** ************ Steve Crane: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.82.9.85 Search results for: 66.82.9.85 OrgName: Hughes Network Systems OrgID: HNS Address: 11717 Exploration Lane Address: DirecWAY Network Management Center Address: attn: Network Security Manager City: Germantown StateProv: MD PostalCode: 20876 Country: US NetRange: 66.82.0.0 - 66.82.255.255 CIDR: 66.82.0.0/16 NetName: DIRECPC-1BLK NetHandle: NET-66-82-0-0-1 Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.DIRECPC.COM NameServer: NS2.DIRECPC.COM Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 2001-02-28 Updated: 2003-01-21 TechHandle: ZD63-ARIN TechName: DirecPC TechPhone: +1-301-601-7205 TechEmail: NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.179.238.3 OrgName: Hill's Pet Nutrition OrgID: HPN Address: 400 S. W. Eighth City: Topeka StateProv: KS PostalCode: 66603-3945 Country: US NetRange: 198.179.238.0 - 198.179.238.255 CIDR: 198.179.238.0/24 NetName: HILLSPET NetHandle: NET-198-179-238-0-1 Parent: NET-198-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment Comment: RegDate: 1993-11-18 Updated: 1993-11-18 TechHandle: RAE2-ARIN TechName: Ewing, Roger A. TechPhone: +1-913-231-5340 TechEmail: ************************************************** ******* So where is the alleged post from Gaubuster with the Hill's IP address? --Marshall |
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Marshall,
Look at the post here dated Mar 11, 10:16 am http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...be250ca3a0ce98 And here dated Mar 11, 10:11 am http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e03d99232b928c Both posts from "Gaubster" resolve directly back to Hill's! Someone in the Cat group found more since the 2 headed hydra has been over there as well trying to push his overpriced bag of Corn n' Soy n' Beaks to the masses... |
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In article .com " writes:
Marshall, Look at the post here dated Mar 11, 10:16 am http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...be250ca3a0ce98 David, I had considerable trouble manipulating that long URL address so that I could paste it in my browser. In the future you might want to use: http://tinyurl.com/create.php But having noted this, you are RIGHT! Gaubusters' post lists: NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.179.238.3 and I have seen this ISP address for Steve's posts. I am not a USENET technical expert, but I found this: ****************************** The NNTP-Posting-Host header, while originally containing the hostname of the client that originated the post, often instead contains an opaque token of some sort that is meaningful only to the originating site. This may be preferred for privacy reasons. The intent of the contents of the NNTP-Posting-Host header is to fulfill two purposes: - To aid the local site administrator in tracking down the origin point of posts, for reasons such as handling abuse issues. - For use with automatic volume-based spam filters that reject excessive postings from a single source. Due to the latter use, it's preferred if the value of this header remains constant across a sufficiently long time frame to allow detection and filtering of message floods by a single originating source. A lifetime of a day or two is probably sufficient for most purposes. There are obvious tradeoffs here between privacy concerns (such as allowing someone to build a profile of what newsgroups a user posts to by looking for matching NNTP-Posting-Host values) and abuse prevention concerns, and different sites will make different tradeoffs. All of this business about tokens and identities and the like can equally well be applied to the NNTP-Posting-Host header, and in fact people are already doing this and have been doing this for years. -- Russ Allbery ) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ ************************ So, from my standpoint, if Gaubuster and Steve post from the same server, a Hills server, it would appear reasonable to infer that they work or have worked for Hills. And if they work(ed) for Hills it would appear reasonable to assume that they know each other. And if they know each other then they could be the same person! :-) --Marshall |
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Here are a couple more!
Mar 10, 4:35 pm http://tinyurl.com/5wemz and another Mar 11, 10:51 am http://tinyurl.com/3ralu |
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wrote in message ups.com... Here are a couple more! Mar 10, 4:35 pm http://tinyurl.com/5wemz and another Mar 11, 10:51 am http://tinyurl.com/3ralu Fun, innit? |
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In article , equalizer wrote:
Bwaaaaa!Haaaaaaa!Haaaaaaaa! Your point is made. Show that you're a better person than they are (if, indeed, you are) and let it go. We get it, okay? -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - George Bush's proposed budget will create $1.6 trillion in additional federal debt, compared to just tracking inflation, according to the CBO. |
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In article ,
PawsForThought wrote: You're not another Hill's employee, are you? No - as I posted earlier, I think the most appropriate use of the stuff is to toss it under my tires to get traction on snow. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - George Bush's proposed budget will create $1.6 trillion in additional federal debt, compared to just tracking inflation, according to the CBO. |
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Melina Shore wrote:
In article , PawsForThought wrote: You're not another Hill's employee, are you? No - as I posted earlier, I think the most appropriate use of the stuff is to toss it under my tires to get traction on snow. ROFL! I guess I missed that post. I hope you will please accept my humble and sincere apology! -- PawsForThought |
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