Since you have serious comprehension problems, let me reiterate:

I never once said I would do what Shelly did--
in other words, contact her employer as she has
contacted Steve's, because she did not like a
Usenet post he made

I was making the simple point that since Shelly
does not like the thought of anyone contacting
her boss over Usenet posts, perhaps she should
think twice before doing it to anyone else.

ESPECIALLY since she posts with her full
first name and last name.

That is all I said.

you needn't shout to get my attention.

--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette || http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com

V is for Victor squashed under a train.
-- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies

"shelly" wrote in message
...
you needn't shout to get my attention.


Getting your attention is not the problem, duckie. The
problem is jump-starting engaging your paltry reading comprehension skills.



--
shelly
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette || http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com

V is for Victor squashed under a train.
-- Edward Gorey, The Gashlycrumb Tinies

Subject: Car Chasin' Dog

HOWEDY mary,

"Mary H Healey" wrote in message
...
ella wrote:
Any thoughts on how to convince an otherwise
well trained dog NOT to chase cars.

Yeah. That's EZ if you know HOWE.

You've had some good advice

That so, mary? The only ADVICE she was given
was to REWARD the BAD BEHAVIOR with treats
and to choke and intimidate the dog someMOORE.

REMEMBER mary, you miserable dog abusing mental case?

(incompatible behavior,

That won't EXXXTINGUISH the behavior, mary,
that's what you do when you CAN'T TRAIN the
dog NOT to DO the behavior, mary.

"leave it",

You mean jerk and choke IT while SCREAMIN "LEAVE IT"
like HOWE your pal taragreen2 was fixin to teach us pryor
to getin CHOKED UP.

prong collar, etc.),

You mean when regular jerking and choking
on your slip choke collar don't HURT and
INTIMDIATE the dog ENOUGH to make IT
respect your AUTHORITY, mary?

and I've used most of them,

INDEEDY. THAT'S HOWE COME The
Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ: "DECENT
PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS."

REMEMBER mary, you dog abusing mental case?

but the simplest "fix" I've used is to simply
put myself between the dog and the traffic.

You mean a barrier. Ever heard of BARRIER
FRUSTRATION SYNDROME, mary? You could
make yourself the stimuli that TRIGGERS the
BAD BEHAVIOR if you're the BARRIER behind
which the dog dog barks. It only takes a few
repetitions to train ANY dog to bark as soon
as the BARRIER is presented, if we CONDITION
the dog to BARK EVERY TIME the barrier is in
place... so, WON missed opportunity will TRAIN
the dog to bark at ANY THING if you're standin
in front of IT to AVOID the BAD BEHAVIOR.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!=AD!!

If you're walking with the flow of cars on your left,

The dog will bolt and pull her into the traffic.

have the dog walk to your right, no more than
a body length ahead or behind you.

You mean, CONfHOWEND the dog's heel command?

Don't expect him to grow out of this behavior.

RIGHT. You can TRAIN the dog not to do
that in a couple minutes, IOW, NEARLY
INSTANTLY, maybe faster if you know HOWE.
But the dog AIN'T GONNA HOWEtgrHOWE
the VISUAL ORAL REFLEX, mary.

THAT has to be DECONDITIONED, mary.

LUCKY THING dogs are CREATURES OF HABIT
and therefore CAN BE TRAINED NEARLY INSTANTLY.

AIN'T IT, mary, you miserable stinkin university
educated dog abusing mental case?

My Sam, bless his pointy ears,

You mean your Sam whom you jerk
and choke and lock in a box, mary.

started chasing cars at 10 weeks and never did stop.

Well then mary, you're just the WON to ADVISE US
HOWE to TRAIN HOWER dogs NOT to DO THAT.

Just start by tellin us HOWE you handled and trained
your little doggy Sam since DAY WON and we'll know
what NOT to do to MAKE dogs FEAR AGGRESSIVE
of passing cars, eh mary?

He'd chase 'em from inside my car,

On accHOWENT of you couldn't jerk and choke
IT EVERY TIME on accHOWENT of you was busy
DRIVING, therebye VARIABLY REINFORCING the
BAD BEHAVIOR EVERY TIME you FAILED TO
HURT and INTIMDATE HIM in a timly manner.

THAT'S HOWE COME AVERSIVES DO
NOT TRAIN DOGS, mary, you dog abusing
mental case.

along the road, wherever, whenever.

Any time you rely on PAIN FEAR FORCE BRIBERY
and INTIMIDATION and FAIL to HURT INTIMIDATE
or successfully BRIBE the dog to AVOID a behavior
of the cunning domestic puppy dog you ain't got the
INTELLECT to HOWEtwit, you've VARIABLY RE-
ENFORCED the BAD BEHAVIOR.

He did learn to control himself,

That so? You mean so long as you could
throw yourself in front of and between your
dog and an oncommin ANY THING, mary.

but almost every long walk would have him
diving at the wheels of some poor unsuspecting
vehicle.

ANY behavior that's CONSISTENT PREDICTABLE
and REPEATABLE is EZ to EXXXTINGUISH NEARLY
INSTANTLY if we DON'T DO what you done to your
poor miserable abused dog Sammy since DAY WON
you miserable dog abusing mental case.

It was always most likely when he was a little tired.

That so?

Of course, that's also when I was likely
to be a little tired, so maybe it was more
my reaction time

You mean, you didn't HURT and INTIMIDATE
your little dog Sammy in time to EXXXTINGUISH
the behavior from DAY WON, eh mary?

than his self-control that frayed a bit.

You're a mental case, mary. If the dog
learned SELF CON-TROLL you wouldn't
have to THROW YOURSELF IN FRONT
of your dog when it makes an ATTACK.

YMMV,

You mean she MIGHT GET LUCKY and
CURE the problem by doin what you done
to CAUSE the problem, mary? Is that SANE?

no warranty, etc.

You can't post here abHOWETS nodoGgamened
MOORE you miserable dog abusing punk thug
coward and active long term incurable university
trained MENTAL CASE.

Damn, I miss that dog.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!

You mean, like these guys, mary?:

"misty" Momisty wrote in message news:
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I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive.
I do know she's not here with us. I really
can't blame anyone here for her loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern
had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.

I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now g
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry!

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misty" Momisty@
wrote in message
news:6946-3B6337A1-329@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two
dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.

Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come
back in the yard and would run for days.

The last time, Peach didn't
come back home.

I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train
my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day
reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.

She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around
the yard.

I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
then you need to train your dog.

I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in
our yard again.

The price was too high:-( ~misty

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"Terri"@
Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
come forward and actually believe in his training manual.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since
I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough
of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the
posts of Marylin Rammell to believe and use it. This naive
child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marylin
for putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile
crap at the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging
idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe
we would not have had to hold the head of a really
magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped
his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into
good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide
behind fake names are more honest than people that use
their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog
breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j=2Eh.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marylin Rammell are going to
just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you
act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really
care.

And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and actually
admit to buying and having success with his little black
box.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take
it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You
would never believe the results, so you'll never know.

Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming to
him! LOL!

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Terri

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I
get to listen to the box first?)

Hello People,

Robert Crim was a former Gang Of Thugs Member, and
hated me a much as the rest of our Thugs do. Robert was a
long time friend and prominent contributor to rpdb, till Jerry
came along and smartened him up. He learned the hard
way, and no longer posts to his former pals, because it is
just too painful knowing his pals would rather HURT and
KILL their dogs than to admit that JERRY is RIGHT.