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On 16 May 2005 06:40:39 -0700, "Meiko'sMom" wrote:
Would anyone like to start a separate link specifically to discuss shih tzu? Yes. Yahoo would... http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query...&submit=Search 101 results for shih tzu One jihad Mom to another Jihad Mom: "sigh"Kids"..." They blow up so quickly!" |
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Meiko'sMom said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:
Would anyone like to start a separate link specifically to discuss shih tzu? If you mean "thread", you just have. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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o.k. sorry Matt, I am not all that great on the computer. I thought we
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Meiko'sMom said in rec.pets.dogs.breeds:
o.k. sorry Matt, I am not all that great on the computer. I thought we had to start a new group or something. No apologies required. You're posting from google, which provides a confusing interface to Usenet. Feel free to start any dog-related discussion you wish. Others may, or may not, participate. Why aren't you posting through Shaw's newsserver? It's a lot easier and faster that going through google. Since we both use Shaw, feel free to email me directly and I can walk you through it. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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Here's you HURTIN and INTIMDIATING dogs and LYIN abHOWET it: HOWEDY matty, "Rocky" wrote in message ... Melinda Shore said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: To put a dollar value on it: A "drop it" command would have saved an acquaintance a $1000 surgery bill on her lab. That so? Seems the DROP IT command happens AFTER the dog has TAKEN the FORBIDDEN FRUIT. Said lab (not a puppy) wouldn't give up a squeaky and, when presented with a treat in exchange, You mean as a BRIBE to release what IT got in ITS MHOWETH that YOU WANT MOORE than the stinkin weenie you're offerin IT in EXXXCHANGE? EVEN A DOG GOT MOORE BRAINS than to fall for THAT kinda IDIOCY. made the decision to swallow the toy As ANY critter would, being PURSUED by a COMPETITOR, dog lovers. What do you EXXXPECT a dog to do when you're fixin to STEAL his BHOWENTY. and then grab and swallow the treat bag. THAT'S what The Amazing Puppy Wizard's been TELLIN you bums in HIS N.I.L.I.F. Posts. REMEMBER, matty? The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ the dog is fixin to tell yout to SHOVE IT and RIP YOU OFF for your weenies and FIGHT you if you offer a protest. THAT'S HOWE COME your stinkin N.I.L.I.F. program GETS SOME DOGS DEAD, matty. I'm very sorry for what must have been a terrible scare for your friend as well the risk to the dog, MOST of HOWER DOG LOVERS here abHOWETS have BEEN THROUGH the SAME SAME SAME SAME for the SAME SAME SAME SAME REASON. THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard goes "BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!" REMEMBER NHOWE, matty, you lying dog abusing punk thug coward MENTAL CASE? BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! but it's hard not to admire a dog with advanced problem-solving skills. BULLSHIT. The dog attacked the bag of treats based on PREDICTABLE NORMAL NATURAL INNATE INSTINCTIVE REFLECIVE behavior. A freakin CHIMPANZEE woulda seen THAT comin. It was a scare for me, too. That so, matty? No "skin off your nose," eh matty? Hey? That's abHOWET HOWE and where leah got bit, too. How's this for problem-solving: AllHOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard to CONsult HIS crystal ball. Ooops! SEZ you're a lying dog abusing mental case and you can't post your idiocy here abHOWETS no doGgamened MOORE. The dog went for the hand that was holding the bag of treats, not the treat in the proffered hand. SHAAAZZZAAAMMM? In doing so, she scraped up my hand fairly well The dog BIT you matty. JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ a dog is SUPPOSED TO DO, matty, on accHOWENT of THAT is the NATURE of the BEAST. (I was attempting the trade Dogs ain't into TRADING, matty. They don't CARE abHOWET your "VALUES." after my acquaintance stood still after saying "drop it drop it drop it" and after her attempted wrestling away didn't work). You went an stuck your hand in the dog's face to teach IT to RESPECT you for a WEENIE. BTW, this was the second time this dog had had bowel surgery and the Nth time she wouldn't give up a toy to the owner. Well, perhaps THAT'S on accHOWENT of all the REINFORCEMENT you've done on this behavior problem by REWARDING BAD BEHAVIORS with TREATS, eh matty? I told her to get her dog to the vet ASAP, On accHOWENT of you fed IT a whole bag of "treats" to wash DHOWEN a squeeky toy you din't have the INTELLECT to GET THE DOG TO PLAY WITH? but she waited until the next day. "Birds of a feather," eh matty. --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. "We Had "Come" Down Pat In A Few Reps And You Could Have Knocked Me Down When I Tried The Exercise With "Drop" And, After A Few Reps In Different Spots Darwin Practically *Threw* The Ball At My Feet On Command," Ben. Hi, Jerry. I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect (just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to want to push and test me a little bit more). For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have) how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even if that was the only method that would work, I'd live with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that. (Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively, tho'). Best, ben =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D You can't post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE on accHOWENT of you're a liar a dog abuser a coward and active long term incurable MENTAL CASE: From: Rocky ) Subject: Leg Humper Date: 1999/09/14 (Jerry Howe) wrote in =AD=AD=ADet: By "sticking your knee up," I can only presume that you are suggesting that the people knee the dog in the chest. If that's what you meant, just say it, instead of beating around the bush to avoid criticism from people like me. That kind of crap has got to stop, and that's why I'm here, to help wean you guys off of the abuse and into the proper methods of dealing with behavior problems. Jerry, I was appreciating your explanation up until this last paragraph. Why did you blow it? --Matt "Rocky" wrote in message . 1.4... Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior: When you compare using sound and praise to solve a problem with using shock collars, hanging, and punishment how can you criticize the use of sound? There's nothing more to be said, then. You've made up your mind. But you've impressed me by mentioning that you're a professor with 30 years of experience. So, can you cite some examples of people recommending "shock collars, hanging, and punishment"? -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Jerome Bigge writes: I do know that hitting, hurting your dog will often make the dog either aggressive or a fear biter, neither of which we want to do. And neither does anyone else, Jerome. No matter what Jerry Howe states. --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. "Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For Dealing With This (Destructive Separation Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33 Years Experience. You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming / Submissive Urination Technique (STSA/BTC/SUT)? Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented that his bed time calming technique was quite similar? You're scary Marilyn. Marilyn must be quite a disturbed individual. I feel very sorry for her and her family. "His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry. Your Method Takes Positive Training To The Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce, Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience. BUT, giving you the benefit of the doubt, please provide a quote (an original quote, not from one of Jerry Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that shows a regular poster promoting or using an abusive form of training. --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. WWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Is that true, Marilyn? Of course not~ but THIS IS: "Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap," professora gingold. "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike duforth, author: "Courteous Canine." "I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently as possible. What does this mean? When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior." --Mike Dufort author of the zero selling book "Courteous Canines" sinofabitch writes: What I have said- repeatedly - is that he took posts from two different people, took pieces of them out of context, cobbled them together, then added his own words: "Neatly," and "Smartly." and a fake signature. "sinofabitch" instead of sionnach. Which is exactly what he did. The actual quote is misleading when taken out of context, and Jerry's faked "quote" is downright meaningless. Here's Jerry's version "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofabitch. Here's yours; "I dropped the leash, threw my right arm over the Lab's shoulder, grabbed her opposite foot with my left hand, rolled her on her side, leaned on her, said "GRRRR!" and nipped her ear. --Sara Sionnach BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!! That's INSANE. Ain't it. "When you get bagged for lying you're MARKED FOR LIFE," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY. BWEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!! From: Mark Shaw ) Subject: Fido-Shock Date: 2002-04-10 14:12:18 PST In article gWLs8.203228$af7.101030@rwcrn=AD=AD=ADsc53, "Coleman Brumley" wrote: Has anyone had experience with this product (Fido-Shock). If so, what model number, voltage, etc.? If you're talking about the pet-grade hotwire system, I have one. It's to keep boarded dogs out of my flowers. I have a 1.5 year St Bernard who is scaling (not clearing -- more like falling over) our 4 foot fence to visit with owners walking their dogs. I thought of raising the fence a foot or so, but don't think that'll solve the problem. I've tried watching her outside, and give a stern "NO" when she props on the fence for a peek over it. No avail. I've heard this product works after just a couple of tries. I take it you're considering running the wire across the top of the fence? I don't think I'd recommend that, although it may be worth a try. Watch closely -- the one case where I saw a hotwire used in this fashion caused the dog undue stress and frustration, and he tried even harder to get over the fence. So be prepared to take it down right away. That was a Dane, though. With a Saint things might be different. -- Mark Shaw culprit's dogs MURDERED her kat for standin behind their SHOCK FENCE just like HOWE liea's dog attacked her only friend and tried to attack two little kids for standin in her SHOCK ZONE: From: culprit ) Subject: Video clip......."Nero" practicing bark alert, while walking backwards Date: 2004-06-05 18:53:50 PST "micha el" =AD=AD=ADm wrote in message ... Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what it felt like to me when I got shocked by Hope's collar. It felt like a bomb going off in my hand and forearm. ------------------------------=AD=AD=AD-- "Tricia9999" wrote in message ... how effective are these electronic fences in keeping a dog on a property???? Some run through it. Others get shocked and become too scared to go out in the yard anymore. Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog, because the dog got caught right in the path of the shock and will now not go near his person, won't go outside. Just hides under a desk in the house. BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!! "I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe. Humane is one of those hot words that people can debate all day so I won't touch that one. There are people who would call a regular chain link fence inhumane," liea altshuller. "I know this is a hard subject to bring up without starting the whole cruelty thread again so I'll state my opinion once and won't defend it further: any method can be cruel for some dogs. Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the beginning, but w e'vecomealongwaysincethen.Shet=AD=AD=ADrusts us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in the mildest way, for not coming. Is it time for that? What might I look for to tell?" "Julia Altshuler" wrote in message news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51... After talking with the vet yesterday and watching Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything up, I don't see symptoms of anything neurological-- and the vet agrees. --Lia "Things are beginning to get much worse day by day and the vets seem unable to help. http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR=AD=AD=ADufusMed.WMV http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR=AD=AD=ADufusSmall.WMV" THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and ASYLUM ESCAPEES. BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!! http://tinyurl.com/389al In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that. If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much "experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how nationally "respected" they are/were. If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around because he is happy and for no other reason, well, then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can explain what would cause a dog to move his head like that. Here's a other: http://tinyurl.com/2v9oh "J1Boss" wrote in message ... He was next to me and I could see his neck muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye. Janet Boss "sionnach" wrote in message ... "J1Boss" wrote in message ... I can't imagine needing anything higher than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive dog like a Lab. An INSENSITIVE DOG??? I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but I had apointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9. BUT, giving you the benefit of the doubt, please provide a quote (an original quote, not from one of Jerry Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that shows a regular poster promoting or using an abusive form of training. BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. THAT'S sumpthin to be PR-HOWED abHOWET, eh matty? THAT'S HOWE YOU BUMS GOT Misty's DEAD DOG Peaches DEAD on us: "misty" wrote in message news: ... I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss. I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern became how to keep them from running off for days on end. I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades. I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time. IOW a great companion and friend. Thanks Jerry! =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D "misty" wrote in message news: We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars. Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back in the yard and would run for days. The last time, Peach didn't come back home. I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around the yard. I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again. The price was too high:-( ~misty =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver: For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the line for a correction. - if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar. Lynn K. "I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in one shelter.) But their ability to set their own schedules and duties causes a great deal of scheduling overhead. And it takes effort and thought to ensure that volunteers get the meaningful experience that they work for. Someone has to be responsible for that Volunteer Program, and it is best done by a non-volunteer." Lynn K. ------------------------------=AD=AD=AD--- Paxil Princess psychoclown wrote: "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure." "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG. Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch. Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in With your hand on the collar and ear, say, 'fetch.' Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; Say 'fetch' while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear," lying frosty dahl. "I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition. Should I have refused to groom them? Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter." Lynn K. "You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs: "This Article Is Something We've Put Together For SF GSD Rescue From: Lynn Kosmakos ) Subject: I have a dog he has cats Date: 1999/11/20 wrote: How can I get him to quit chasing the cats. Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K. "Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in this situation. Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or whatever other reward system was being used." 8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is why you have the dog muzzled). If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your voice and the collar. This is important - the correction must be physically very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need to be corrected at all)." Baghdad Bob Baghdadbob wrote in message news:04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews.. . Lynn, looks like he got you there if these quotes are true. In the posts below you take responsibility for making those calls. In your post above, you state you do not make those calls. Which one is it? WORDS OF WISDOM from our own Lynn Kosmakos 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day For Twenty Years I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM "I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic- depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day. I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to learn more, while happily sharing pertinent information I have learned. But if I were ever to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other reader of this group would be rightfully outraged." "Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn the right to participate in by observing the easily understood rules and contributing to in constructive ways." Lynn K. ------------------------------=AD=AD=AD----------- "It wasn't that meds didn't work for her - she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember a comment she made about scarey side effects of Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of any side effect is far less frightening than the very real dangers of life without it." Lynn K. ------------------------------=AD=AD=AD----------- LYNN K. and LOIS E, and a BiLateral, BiPolar conversation on Mental problems. LYNN AND LOIS Almost 50 years on mental illness medications combined ------------------------------=AD=AD=AD----------- But I think what Lois was referring to was the fact that Darlene actually stated at some point that she was bipolar--and, IIRC, that meds did not work for her--so she was prone to major-league ups and downs and sudden enthusiasms.. "It wasn't that meds didn't work for her - she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember a comment she made about scarey side effects of Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of any side effect is far less frightening than the very real dangers of life without it." Lynn K. ------------------------------=AD=AD=AD----------- LYNN K. and the UNQUIET MIND From: Lynn Kosmakos ) Subject: Where is Darlene? Date: 1999/09/03 BoxHill wrote: I know I am totally off topic here, but have you read "The Unquiet Mind"? Yeah. It's interesting, but kind of watered down for the mass market, if you know what I mean. There's really quite a lot of good work out there and decent research. Thank God. Lynn K. ------------------------------=AD=AD=AD--------- MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION "KUCKOO!! CUCKOO!!!" MOTHER (LOIS E.) 22 YEARS on TRICYCLICS, DAUGHTER BIPOLAR... YOU DO THE MATH "What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly, 'I take anti-depressives'" From: Gary & lois Edwards ) Subject: Where is Darlene? Date: 1999/09/02 BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS "I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics for about 22 years. Been there, done that, have the t-shirt to prove it. What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly, "I take anti-depressives". Back when I started taking them it was seen as something shameful. If you cut your leg off, and were lying there with a bleeding stump, you'd never let the word depressed, pass your lips, or the doc's would say, "You're depressed, on medication? Well, can't have any pain meds.....you could become addicted." The good old days. I actually had a Great Aunt who's father locked her in her room back in the twenties because she was simple. A shame that medication probably would have helped her live a normal life. No Denna, I was just saying with Darlene's personality, she has a way of making grandiose plans when at the top of her manic cycle....as does my daughter. I wasn't saying that anyone with problems could be counted on to be irresponsible." Lois E. ------------------------------=AD=AD=AD------- "It was kind of funny, in an absurd way. The rabbit was completely still, eyes open and glazed, dried blood in his ears and mouth, with his back legs stiffening quickly. It was her pet rabbit, not a wild bunny, so that made it much harder for her. And he was killed by bichons. Her dogs had torn it apart. My one student who had shown up (another weird thing about the night) and I had to continuously check for heart and bowel sounds for her, until she could accept that the rabbit was dead. (The rigor mortis in his back legs she attributed to "pain"). Full moon. Canine Action Dog Trainer http://www.canineaction.com Then she mentioned the names of her dogs, and I immediately remembered them. YOUR STUDENT, leah. Like that RECENT GRADUATE STUDENT Rottie who'd been in your SOCIALIZATION classes since IT was ten weeks old who RECENTLY MURDERED a little innocent DEAD DOG at the park. I will always remember the dogs. Yeah. You and ed w of PET LOSS dot COIN. Leah Effexor for chronic depression, in denial about being mentally ill. Has taken several other mentally ill medications before settling on effexor for her chronic mental problems. Recenly changed to another ANTI PSYCHOTIC prescription. "I don't think Jerry intentionally lies. I think he twists things around in his own mind until he actually believes what he's saying." Jerry is the only poster here who gives dangerous advice. Google for spike and squirt. And let's not forget the times he's told posters whose dogs have medical problems that his halfwits-end program could cure them. PetsMart Pet Trainer=20 My Kids, My Students, My Life |
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