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Old June 21st 05, 09:54 PM
po
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Alright, it's just a leash law violation compounded by false information.

The link takes you to a movie, but it has no sound. At least it had no sound
when I tried it.

MerKin Police - Video - illegal Dog walking

http://www.propagandamatrix.co*m/art...05onle*ash.htm


Woman Assaulted, Arrested For Not Having Dog On Leash
Animal control officers demanded name, social security number.


Dog was NOT repeat NOT harmed.


News 4 Jax | June 9 2005


ATLANTIC BEACH, Fla. -- A woman walking her dogs on the beach was
forcibly arrested and spent a night in jail when a confrontation with
police escalated into violence.


Angela Egnedoerfer was stopped by animal control officers Sunday
afternoon for not having her dog on a leash. When she refused to sign a
citation, Atlantic Beach police were called.


According to arrest police report, Egnedoerfer gave police a false name
and Social Security number. After a number of verbal warnings, police
said they forcibly took her to the ground and arrested her.


She feels the police overreacted to what was essentially a leash-law
violation


"I spent the night in jail," Egnedoerfer said. "I had things on my
ankles; on my wrists."


She showed Channel 4's Scott Johnson scars and bruises on her body she
said were caused by the rough handling of police officers.


"I got mouthy with them. I did," Egnedoerfer said. "They're getting
mouthy with me; snotty with me. I gave him some fake name, fake Social
(Security number) and, there, I'm leaving."


Egnedoerfer said she tried to blow off police thinking this was no big
deal. But when she gave the fake name, it became a big deal.


The police report said she was "very irate and belligerent." The
officer "told the defendant to stop several times," and as she
continued to walk away he pulled pulled a Taser gun and eventually
"performed an arm-bar takedown."


"(He) pushed my head into the hard sand. I'm talking, everything went
black. I, I've never been hit so hard in my life. And I'm female," she
said.


This all happened on Atlantic Beach after she crossed over the border
from Hanna Park. But she says it's hard to tell where one beach ends
and the other begins and she wasn't sure she was even in Atlantic
Beach's jurisdiction when she was stopped.


Police have charged her with resisting an officer, interfering with an
officer and gave false identification. There was the dog citation, so
police said there was more than reason enough to arrest her the way
they did.


The Atlantic Beach Police Department declined be interviewed about the
case, saying that the list of violations speaks for itself.


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Old June 21st 05, 10:09 PM
Mark Shaw
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po wrote:
Alright, it's just a leash law violation compounded by false information.


MerKin Police - Video - illegal Dog walking
http://www.propagandamatrix.co?m/art...05onle?ash.htm


Actually, it looks a lot more like a case of resisting arrest
and providing false information to me.

Object lesson: when the nice officer asks you what your name
is, smile and answer truthfully. When he asks you to sign
his summons, smile and comply. When he asks you if he can
search your person or your vehicle, smile and say "no," but
don't try to stop him if he goes ahead and does it anyway.

Even when you can beat the rap, you can almost never beat
the ride.

--
Mark Shaw moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
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"All of my mistakes are giving me ideas." - Natalie Lileks
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Old June 22nd 05, 02:15 PM
po
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I agree it's foolish to give a false identity because it might be a
violation of the law in itself. Better to ask politiely if it is against the
law to refuse to give out that info and also ask if it is against the law to
refuse to sign the ticket. I've read some tickets and if I remember right,
by signing you're agreeing that this or that happened. Cops invariably make
their own writing illegible, so it's easy to say, "I don't want to sign that
unless you're ordering me too, because I can't read your writing." If the
cop insists you sign it, do so, but make a note that you were forced to
sign. If he clobbers you at that point, you probably have a case.

If you ask me though, the cops acted like bullies. They took offense to her
reaction and decided to punish her as severely as possible. Most likely
she's a tax payer. In some small way she paid to be treated like this.

And obviously you just enjoy seeing people get pushed around and getting the
law shoved up their asses, Mark.

"Mark Shaw" wrote in message
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po wrote:
Alright, it's just a leash law violation compounded by false information.


MerKin Police - Video - illegal Dog walking
http://www.propagandamatrix.co?m/art...05onle?ash.htm


Actually, it looks a lot more like a case of resisting arrest
and providing false information to me.

Object lesson: when the nice officer asks you what your name
is, smile and answer truthfully. When he asks you to sign
his summons, smile and comply. When he asks you if he can
search your person or your vehicle, smile and say "no," but
don't try to stop him if he goes ahead and does it anyway.

Even when you can beat the rap, you can almost never beat
the ride.

--
Mark Shaw moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
================================================== ======================
"All of my mistakes are giving me ideas." - Natalie Lileks



 




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