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screaming dog
I have been lurking for a while, and have seen that many of you have good
suggestions for behavior problems. Well, here is one... I have several dogs, including a Belgian Tervuren. He is a sweet dog, very intelligent and trainable, except that when I pay attention to one of the other dogs he screams! Example: The dogs ( Standard poodles (2), border collie (1) and Justice, the Terv.) have crates on a sun porch. If I let one of the other dogs out to go to the back yard or to train, Justice has a fit and shrieks. It is the equivalent of running your fingers across a blackboard. What I have tried: (1) Praising silence..."Good Justice! Good hush!" This only works temporarily...the next time he screams again. (2) "Hush, Justice!" Squirt bottle with vinegar water in the face (my trainer suggested this). Justice ends up smelling like a salad. Next time he screams again. (3) Bark collar. Yelps and screams. I understand now why his sire was debarked, but I think debarking is definitely a last resort. Any ideas? Jo Pennington |
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On 12 Jul 2005 16:18:48 GMT, "Jo Pennington" ,
wrote: I have several dogs, including a Belgian Tervuren. He is a sweet dog, very intelligent and trainable, except that when I pay attention to one of the other dogs he screams! Example: The dogs ( Standard poodles (2), border collie (1) and Justice, the Terv.) have crates on a sun porch. If I let one of the other dogs out to go to the back yard or to train, Justice has a fit and shrieks. It is the equivalent of running your fingers across a blackboard. put a visual barrier in front of him. work the other dog right in front of his crate to accustom him to that activity. does he continue to bark through the bark collar, or do you give in immediately? -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...bedience/album |
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on 2005-07-12 at 16:18 wrote:
Any ideas? my first approach would be to ignore the screaming completely and not interact with him in any way whatsoever until it stops. you have my sympathies. there is nothing, and i mean *nothing* that would drive me crazy faster than a shrieking dog. i can handle a lot of things, but i'm afraid that--if i were unable to solve the problem--shrieking be a deal breaker. -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ http://letters-to-esther.blogspot.com/ (updated 7/10/05) |
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"Janet B" wrote in message ... On 12 Jul 2005 16:18:48 GMT, "Jo Pennington" , wrote: I have several dogs, including a Belgian Tervuren. He is a sweet dog, very intelligent and trainable, except that when I pay attention to one of the other dogs he screams! Example: The dogs ( Standard poodles (2), border collie (1) and Justice, the Terv.) have crates on a sun porch. If I let one of the other dogs out to go to the back yard or to train, Justice has a fit and shrieks. It is the equivalent of running your fingers across a blackboard. put a visual barrier in front of him. work the other dog right in front of his crate to accustom him to that activity. does he continue to bark through the bark collar, or do you give in immediately? -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...bedience/album He screams, yelps, and then screams again. |
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"shelly" wrote in message arble.net... on 2005-07-12 at 16:18 wrote: Any ideas? my first approach would be to ignore the screaming completely and not interact with him in any way whatsoever until it stops. you have my sympathies. there is nothing, and i mean *nothing* that would drive me crazy faster than a shrieking dog. i can handle a lot of things, but i'm afraid that--if i were unable to solve the problem--shrieking be a deal breaker. -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ http://letters-to-esther.blogspot.com/ (updated 7/10/05) I have tried to ignore it, but he continued the behavior. My nerves wear out before Justice wears out. |
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on 2005-07-12 at 17:57 wrote:
I have tried to ignore it, but he continued the behavior. My nerves wear out before Justice wears out. earplugs. seriously. every time you give in and give him attention or let him out of the crate, you reinforce his shrieking. it's not going to be an easy thing to break him of, no matter how you go about it, because it's been so successful for him in the past. -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ http://letters-to-esther.blogspot.com/ (updated 7/10/05) |
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"Janet B" wrote in message ... On 12 Jul 2005 16:18:48 GMT, "Jo Pennington" , wrote: I have several dogs, including a Belgian Tervuren. He is a sweet dog, very intelligent and trainable, except that when I pay attention to one of the other dogs he screams! Example: The dogs ( Standard poodles (2), border collie (1) and Justice, the Terv.) have crates on a sun porch. If I let one of the other dogs out to go to the back yard or to train, Justice has a fit and shrieks. It is the equivalent of running your fingers across a blackboard. put a visual barrier in front of him. work the other dog right in front of his crate to accustom him to that activity. does he continue to bark through the bark collar, or do you give in immediately? -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfr...bedience/album Sorry, a bit distracted. He barked (shrieked) through the bark collar. It was rented, so I decided after three days without any change in his behavior, that I might as well return the thing. This behavior has been going on for almost a year. He does quit after a few (maybe 5) minutes of activity, but the next time something starts to happen he goes through the screaming routine all over again. Ex.: I groom the poodles in the sun room where the crates are located. Justice does quit after a few minutes. I can crate the groomed dog, leave, return to let a dog out, and the whole screaming thing starts over. |
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"shelly" wrote in message arble.net... on 2005-07-12 at 17:57 wrote: I have tried to ignore it, but he continued the behavior. My nerves wear out before Justice wears out. earplugs. seriously. every time you give in and give him attention or let him out of the crate, you reinforce his shrieking. it's not going to be an easy thing to break him of, no matter how you go about it, because it's been so successful for him in the past. -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ http://letters-to-esther.blogspot.com/ (updated 7/10/05) Earplugs might be the solution. They might make family life more peaceful, as well. :-) |
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on 2005-07-12 at 18:18 wrote:
Earplugs might be the solution. They might make family life more peaceful, as well. :-) well, there ya' go, problem solved! -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ http://letters-to-esther.blogspot.com/ (updated 7/10/05) |
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"shelly" wrote in message arble.net... on 2005-07-12 at 17:57 wrote: I have tried to ignore it, but he continued the behavior. My nerves wear out before Justice wears out. earplugs. seriously. every time you give in and give him attention or let him out of the crate, you reinforce his shrieking. it's not going to be an easy thing to break him of, no matter how you go about it, because it's been so successful for him in the past. Hi Jo, I lost your original post. Wow, I thought Lucy was a pain in the behindermost bits when I worked with Pablo but your Justice has her beat. While she used to have hissy fits, at least she didn't shriek. When we first got Lucy, she would bark (an annoying high pitched bark) but after a bit of work she stopped barking and instead moaned, whined and wa-wa'ed (sounds like a soft siren). The tactics I've used, depending on the situation, have been: rewarding silence, turning away when she makes noise and ignoring her. She has gotten much better lately (I think she's mellowing out on us) but, unfortunately, I and several other people have laughed at her wa-wa performance -especially when she dramatically throws herself into a sit (with a "humpf!"), closes her eyes, points her nose and softly sings: "wa wa wa wa wa wa wa wa wa wa wa wa wa wa waaa wa." I suspect you'll never do that - accidentally encouraging Justice's performance by laughing. How old is Justice? Some young Tervs are total boneheads until you get their brains in the mail (can't remember if that's when they are two or three). I remember one lady with a couple of Terv hellions told me that they calm down about 6 weeks before they die but it's a really great 6 weeks. Chris and her smooth collies, Pablo and Lucy singing the "I'm-horribly-mistreated-and-everyone-hates-me-cuz-I'm-beautiful-and-I-don't-get-enough-treats-and-Pablo-is-sleeping-in-my-cushy-bean-bag-bed" blues. |
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