From: (dogsnus)

This one really caught my attention as not only do I not know of that
many of the breed in Service, I also know they're fairly uncommon in
Idaho.

There's one on patrol in XXXXX that's a headline waiting to happen. The
dog is a land shark. He's gone off on his handler twice now, the last
time requiring stitches, and for some reason the dept. puts up with him.

Debbie

Debbie S wrote:

From: (dogsnus)

This one really caught my attention as not only do I not know of that
many of the breed in Service, I also know they're fairly uncommon in
Idaho.

There's one on patrol in XXXXX that's a headline waiting to happen. The
dog is a land shark. He's gone off on his handler twice now, the last
time requiring stitches, and for some reason the dept. puts up with him.

Debbie


Okay, opinion only here, but I've decided that males of the human
species, and specifically males who own/train schutzhund/patrol dogs,
secretly love a dog who would just as soon eat them as look at them.
Why? It's a mystery.

The former TD of my club, who is a past USA President, is such a guy. He
just had to get rid of a dog because the dog was going to eat him--he's
now well up into his 60s and has very severe arthritis in both his knees
and his hips so he just can't move and handle like he used to. So he
gets this new dog, pays $7,000 for him. A Hungarian Team dog, SchH3,
IPO3, and a really, really NICE dog. Stable, good drives, etc. But this
dog won't try to eat him so he doesn't like him. He's busily ruining the
dog trying to make it tougher. I know another Police K9 handler who hit
his dog in the head so hard he broke his hand. The dog was another of
those "I will eat you" dogs. I've never known a woman handler who was
this way. It's weird.

"Robin Nuttall" wrote in message
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Okay, opinion only here, but I've decided that males of the human species,
and specifically males who own/train schutzhund/patrol dogs, secretly love
a dog who would just as soon eat them as look at them. Why? It's a
mystery.

I think it ties into the macho thing in general. You know all those byb who
love to spout about their 140lb Rottie or their 100lb Pit Bull or their 80lb
Boxer? The fact that most of these dogs aren't supposed to get that big,
regardless of bone structure, doesn't mean diddly. A good-looking,
within-standard, dog of one of those breeds that weighed less than the above
would draw snickers and "my dog'll kick your whimpy dog's ass" comments.

--
Tara

Tee wrote:
"Robin Nuttall" wrote in message
news:ssuDe.168729$_o.160136@attbi_s71...

Okay, opinion only here, but I've decided that males of the human species,
and specifically males who own/train schutzhund/patrol dogs, secretly love
a dog who would just as soon eat them as look at them. Why? It's a
mystery.


I think it ties into the macho thing in general. You know all those byb who
love to spout about their 140lb Rottie or their 100lb Pit Bull or their 80lb
Boxer? The fact that most of these dogs aren't supposed to get that big,
regardless of bone structure, doesn't mean diddly. A good-looking,
within-standard, dog of one of those breeds that weighed less than the above
would draw snickers and "my dog'll kick your whimpy dog's ass" comments.

Accompanied, no doubt, by spitting. Another thing male humans do that I
have NO clue why. For some reason, spitting is somehow virile and studly
to the male mind. Me, I think it's just gross. I don't know a single
woman who hawks a loogie at any time, in any place. So for you spitters
out there, just a little note. This is not sexy. It will not make any
sane woman want to jump your bones. Spitting into a bottle or can is no
more sexy than spitting between your feet. The ability to spit at
distance is not a praiseworthy accomplishment. Just so you know.

From: (Robin=A0Nuttall)
Okay, opinion only here, but I've decided that males of the human
species, and specifically males who own/train schutzhund/patrol dogs,
secretly love a dog who would just as soon eat them as look at them.

The dog I was talking about has a female handler. I hear what you're
saying though, and see it frequently.

Debbie

Accompanied, no doubt, by spitting. Another thing male humans do that I
have NO clue why. For some reason, spitting is somehow virile and studly
to the male mind. Me, I think it's just gross. I don't know a single
woman who hawks a loogie at any time, in any place. So for you spitters
out there, just a little note. This is not sexy. It will not make any
sane woman want to jump your bones. Spitting into a bottle or can is no
more sexy than spitting between your feet. The ability to spit at
distance is not a praiseworthy accomplishment. Just so you know.

Well, I am a woman and when I was in college and rowing, I admittedly,
succumb to this habit. It was not attractive, I know. My boyfriend was
often reminded of it by his teammates, (he also rowed) and this was the
only time he was less than proud to call me his girl.

HOWEVER, In my defense, when it's a million degrees out, you're trapped
in a fiberglass boat that is 18+ feet long and only about 18 inches wide
and your feet are strapped to the boat and your hands are busy trying to
manipulate a 10 foot oar while you "cruise" along completing a hideously
hard workout by an equally hideous coach, stopping to ask for a drink of
water and properly clean your mouth out is not an option. Hence, we are
given no choice but to hauk it up and spit it out. Aim is most important
at this point because when rowing, your back is facing the direction you
are traveling so if you are in the bow (the front - but looks like the
back) and moving forward rapidly, you don't want your, eh - spit, to
inadvertently land on a team mate.

I'm in the real word now, and spit only in private AND ONLY when
absolutely necessary (I.E., being sick).

Darby

Debbie S wrote:

From: (Robin Nuttall)
Okay, opinion only here, but I've decided that males of the human
species, and specifically males who own/train schutzhund/patrol dogs,
secretly love a dog who would just as soon eat them as look at them.

The dog I was talking about has a female handler. I hear what you're
saying though, and see it frequently.

They all want the hard dog. "I want a HARD DOG." and not in the meaning
which I use for hardness, which is resilience and ability to withstand
tough work and keep driving. Hard as in, almost totally uncontrollable,
hair-trigger, independent, non-compliant, and yep, ready to eat you.

I think it's a matter of--a lot of them are pretty poor trainers.
Instead of figuring out how to get the dog to work with them, they'd
rather whack the heck out of it until it obeys. And they either teach
the dogs to try to eat them (this insane human is hurting me again and
I'm sick of it), or they break the dog, then blame it on the dog for not
being tough enough.