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Adopting a puppy advice/comments please
HOWEDY t. stewart,
T. Stewart wrote: I have been a long-time lurker on this newsgroup. Then you KNOW only LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACTIVE ACUTE CHRONIC LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES post here abHOWETS. DON'T YOU, t. stewart. My husband and I are trying to adopt a pointer puppy Don't pull that "ADOPT" bullshit, the PET ADOPTION BUSINESS has been EXXXPOSED as a SCAM by lying dog abusing punk thug coward MENTAL CASES who PROFIT from HURTING and INTIMIDATING and MURDERING dogs and LYIN abHOWET it. and we have tried and hopefully found a responsible breeder. That so? You mean based on the guidelines set by YOUR PUNK THUG COWARD MENTAL CASE PALS, t. stewart. We decided on a pointer after going to a local dog show and talking to many different handlers and owners about their dogs. They go to dog shows to SELL their livestock, t.. Some discouraged us from their breeds because of exercise requirements and their need for "work." THEM'S THE MENTAL CASES, t. stewart. BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! THEM'S THE MENTAL CASES WHO CAUSED BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION, t. stewart. We have heeded this advice and not chosen those breeds. BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHHAHHAAHAAA!!! You're a guillible IDIOT, t. stewart. We found the breeder we've tried to adopt our puppy from a referral from the secretary of the Pointer Club of Canada (she liked our very comprehensive letter of introduction) BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!! and by discussing various issues to do with the adoption THAT'S A RACKET, you simpleton. (plus earning the approval from the breeder through an interview process). BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!! Ask your REPUTABLE ETHICKAL BREEDER if it's O.K. for you to use a shock fence choke or pronged spiked pinch choke collar crates and bribery to train your dog and you'll know HOWE COME they're so SELECTIVE... they ONLY SELL TO DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASES, like yourself, t. stewart. The first breeding that we reserved ended up being a false pregnancy; the mother was lactating and showed all signs of being pregnant. No puppy for us there. The second breeding, the mother had a very hard labour. Five of the eight puppies ended up dying and the mother died three days later. BWEEEEEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! Well, they're EXXXPERIENCED NHOWE, AIN'T THEY. The breeder wanted to keep the puppies for a bit longer Scott & Fuller SEZ SIX WEEKS IS IDEAL to place a new pup. (and extra 4-5 weeks). THAT'S INSANE. My husband and I took this as a "sign" to wait and not to rush in. You're dealin with IDIOCY. We took the next year to fix up the yard and prepare for a new puppy BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!! "Water seeks it's own level," eh t. stewart??? (plus the city is installing a sewer system and everything is a mess right now). RIGHT. We had our name down for the next litter to be born in the fall (take home in the late fall). However, there were problems with the impregnation; we just found out that the mother did not take so still no puppies. Could be your ETHICKAL BREEDER is breedin UP to IMPROVE her lines? The breeder has two puppies left from earlier in the year, You mean poor quality pups SHE COULDN'T SELL, t. stewart. which are ready to go now. BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! My husband's sister has a dog that after years of trying to get the dog to be O.K. with him, still runs out of the room when my husband enters it. Well, that sez much abHOWET the family your DH comes from... think WATER SEEKS ITS OWN LEVEL, t. stewart. Roxy is perfectly fine if my husband is throwing a stick or playing outside; we've accepted this fact and just keep being nice and let her work on it in her own time. You gonna let the DOG do the trainin, eh t. stewart? My husband is slightly worried that because these pointer puppies will be 12 weeks on August 20, that they may have the same reaction to him. Ask your ETHICKAL BREEDER if she EVER heard of Scott & Fuller. The breeder is 12 hours away by car so it's not possible to see the two puppies ahead of time to check them out. . You're a SLOW LEARNER, ain't you. Our question for the collective brain is: BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHHAAAA!!! how important is it for the new owners (us) to see the two puppies and choose them? FIGGER IT HOWET, t. stewar. You got a INCOMPETENT BLOWHARD for a breeder and THEY GOT STUCK with 2 pups THEY COULDN'T SELL and they're GONNA GIVE YOU the WON they DON'T THINK THEY CAN GET RID OF anyHOWE. BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAAA!!! You gonna TRUST THEM like their mom dog TRUSTED them to get them puppies HOWETA her pryor to POISONING her system, t. stewart? Your ETHICKAL BREEDERS DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND THE DOUGH ON A CASEAREAN when the mom dog first showed signs of BEIN IN CRISIS. HOWE COME ALL HER PUPS DIED, t. stewart? SUMPTHIN STINKS with your ETHICKAL BREEDER. Is it ok if the breeder chooses a puppy for us? NO WONDER YOU BEEN READIN THIS FORUM FOR A LONG TIME. How important is the generally accepted 8 weeks old timeline? You freakin simpleton! The GENERALLY ACCEPTED 8 WEEK OLD TIMELINE was ESTABLISHED by the Department of Agriculture for SHIPPIN PUPS not PLACING THEM IN THEIR NEW HOWESES. Your ETHICKAL BREEDERS CONfHOWENDED THAT with Scott & Fuller's SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH sayin pups BELONG in their new HOWESES at SIX WEEKS for BEST RESULTS. The EXXXPERTS you RELY on are FRAUDS LIARS DOG ABUSERS and COWARDS. Thanks, You're welcome! Tara and Brett ALL Temperament and Behavior Problems And 90% Of DIS-EASE Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. THAT'S GOOD! THAT MEANS We can CURE ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems And 90% Of DIS-EASE NEARLY INSTANTLY Simply By DOING EXXXACTLY, PRECISELY, OPPOSITE Of HOWE We've Been TAUGHT By UNIVERSITY TRAINED Behaviorists HOWEDY People! ALL Temperament and Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING. "...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation, inhibition and disinhibition." Ivan P. Pavlov THAT'S GOOD! "It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in deviant behavior of children can be achieved through brief, simple educative routines with their mothers which modify the mother's social behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965). A large number of cases improved sufficiently after preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment of children was required, and almost ALL cases SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy. Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)." "Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVERY LEARNING THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected reward not received is experienced as a punishment and can produce extensive and persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)." THAT MEANS we can CURE ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOING EXXXACTLY, PRECISELY, OPPOSITE of HOWE we've been TAUGHT TO MISHANDLE and ABUSE HOWER dogs by the UNIVERSITY TRAINED behaviorists and PROFESSIONAL PET CARE SPECIALISTS who MAKE THEIR LIVING off of PERPETUATING their SHEER IDIOCY and IGNOING the works of Drs. Sam Corson, Dra. Mary Cover Jones, Breland & Breland, and other notable psychologists IGNORED and OVERLOOKED by the ABUSERS who TEACH US to lock HOWER dogs in boxes, bribe, choke, intimidate, and IGNORE HOWER dog's, children's and SP-HOWESES cries of FEAR and NEED and WITHHOLD attention, affection, so called "rewards" and UNCONDITIONAL LOVE TRUST and RESPECT. Pavlov Told Us So 100 Years Ago. Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggys. {) ; ~ ) WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO BLAME THE DOG OR ITS BREED: ALL Critters Only Respond In PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways; To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment Which We Create For Them. You GET The Critter You TRAINED A DOG Is A Dog; As A KAT Is A KAT; As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY; As A CHILD IS A CHILD; As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES. The Amazing Puppy Wizard has MUCH CASE HISTORY and PEER REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC DATA to PROVE these "FAR FETCHED" claims. HOWEver, for today's puporses, this will be all that's necessary: Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so study it well and do and follow ALL the EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100% CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for all handlers and all dogs in all fields or utilities and behaviors all over the Whole Wild World {) ; ~ ) ALL Critters Only Respond In PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways; To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment Which We Create For Them. You GET The Critter You TRAINED A DOG Is A Dog; As A KAT Is A KAT; As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY; As A CHILD IS A CHILD; As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES. In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS. Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT. ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING Jer 21 And unto this people thou shalt say, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I set before you The Way Of Life, And The Way Of Death. 2Ki 19:6 And Isaiah said unto them, Thus shall ye say to your master, Thus saith the LORD, Be not afraid of the words which thou hast heard, with which the servants of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. The Puppy Prophet {); ~ ) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:41:01 -0500 From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." Subject: "time-out" Dan, my own firm hatred of punishment has recently been intensified by meeting The Puppy Wizard, Jerry Howe, whose work with dogs is marvelous. There is a literature on harms caused by time out, and perhaps you'd like to look at http://www.dogydoright.com George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H. "As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care." George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate, Academy of Behavioral Medicine From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Doggy advice Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below. I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything. I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very competent at living with dogs. I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about dogs doing this and that, for example: whining, humping, hunching, pacing, self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking, spinning, prolonged barking, barking at shadows, overstimulated barking, fighting, bullying other dogs, compulsive digging, compulsive scratching, compulsive chewing, frantic behavior, chasing light, chasing shadow, stealing food, digging in garbage can, loosing house (toilet) training. inappropriate fearfulness aggression. The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of the intervening time working with animals (including the human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related). You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans. As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving care. George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate, Academy of Behavioral Medicine So why is that a problem? "The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al (1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment procedure developing imitative speech in two severly disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty- six days the boys are reported to have been learning new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and learning immediately deteriorated." From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 AM Subject: How does diagnosis shape treatment? How does diagnosis shape treatment? Nearly every week I have a visit from Jerry Howe, who publicizes himself as The Puppy Wizard. Jerry is a master at behavioral modification of dogs. His fundamental bedrock is the work Pavlov's last student, the late Sam Corson, Ph.D., did at the U of Ohio (at Oxford,O). Sam always pointed out if the dog stopped working for you in the lab, Pavlov and he always took the dog away from the lab, and put him in a loving home and gave him TLC for a couple of months, and then started, very carefully, over again. Jerry believes that reward and constraint focused training is immoral. I've watched him in one short session calm impossible dogs, just about to be murdered (oops "put to sleep") because of their "incorrigibly" violent behavior. Sam was one of the first people to apply amphetamine to hyperactivity (he searched the Middle West for hyperactive dogs); but he never lost sight of the fundamental reality that a dog is not a human, but does respond, doggily, to dog love. You might be surprised to go to B. F. Skinner's "Cumulative Record" and read the essay by Breland and Breland, "The Misbehavior of Organisms". Animals cannot be successfully trained unless the trainer attends to the evolutionary history, the individual's developmental history, and the environmental niche of the animal being trained. Yep, right there in Skinner's last and summary book. Even with behavior mod, you must know the animal. snip Dogs or little boys, you have to know the individual history, and the nature of he disorder. Dr. Von PS if you are interested in dogs, then take a look at Jerry's work. Dr. George VonHilsheimer writes in "Is there a SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR?": "Valette 1966 is a complete trivialization of scientific findings. It overstates the case for reinforcement theory. No careful researcher would contend that operant techniques CAN ANY THING MORE than modify SHORT TERM BEHAVIOR in a highly controlled and limited environment with a large number of skillful experimenters. Certainly the most elaborate studies have shown that the withdrawal or temprary inefficiency of the reward system is immediately followed by CESSATION of the programmed behavior. In fortunate contrast to this depressing paper is the research reported by Whelan (1966) who makes the simple but profHOWEND caveat that "It is only through CORRECT, EFFICIENT APPLICATION (of operant principles) that children's behavor can be changed to the extent that they can subsequently contribute to the REAL WORLD in which they live." " "The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior Never Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All Handler's And All Dogs, ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD, NEARLY INSTANTLY, As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual," The Puppy Wizard. {} ; ~ ) Dr. Von continues: "Whelan illustrates the simple nature or the learning process by referring to Ferster's engaging study of two three year old chimpanzees taught mathematics through simple procedures. Whelan carries this EVIDENCE a step futher by pointing HOWET it's applicability to disturbed children." You Get The Critter You Trained A Dog Is A Dog As A Kat Is A Kat As A Birdie Is A Birdie As A Child Is A Child As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES. ALL Critters Only Respond In PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment Which We Create For Them. Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT. In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS. Dr. Von continues: "If chimpanzees CAN LEARN mathematics through step by step learning AT THEIR OWN PACE, reinforced primarily by CORRECT ANSWERS rather than with "fruit loops and rasins", we can assume that even developmentally RETARDED or CONfHOWENDED children CAN LEARN as well. Moreover, Whelan makes the EXXXTREMELY important point that while most teachers assume that learning takes place verbally, primarily it is a non verbal process.. Unfortunately Whelan limits himself to the problem that "teachers must not only modify or remove specific deviant behaviors, but must also develop socially acceptable behavior patterns in the classroom and classroom conditioned goals, NOT LEARNING. Other researchers have emphasized the importance of adult behaviors in conditioning classroom behavior. An EXXXCELLENT review of this research showd that tantrum behavior, excessive crawling and dependency, isolated play, passivity, spelling failure, and other problem behaviors can be managed by altering habitual adult responses to children (Harris, Wolf and Baer, 1964) . Such RESEARCH holds GREATER PROMISE in that alteration of the conditioning social environment seems to provide more STABLE and LASTING CHANGES than "M and M's". Moreover, a great deal of work has been done developing EFFECTIVE techniques of behavior modificaton through the conditioning social environment of peers (Hartup, 1964). These directions would seem more PRODUCTIVE than a simple minded trainslation of the Skinner cage to the classroom. Skinner (1963) pointed HOWET that operant techniques can "be utilized fully ONLY IF we REDEFINE the GOALS of education and the CONDITIONS in the educational environment under which those goals may be reached... (through) a DIFFERENT KIND of educational research which is much more closely concerned with the immediate dimensions of the student's behavior than with gross changes such as IMPROVED PERFORMANCES." UNFORTUNATELY, neither Skinner nor ANY OTHER learning theorist has provided us with a working model of a school or research enterprise based on systemic and thorough-going APPLICATION of LEARNING PRINCIPLES. Skinner (1948, 1953) approaches a definition of the philosophical issues involved, and provides an utopian model of a school, but generally psychologists seem STUCK at a level of MANAGEMENT of an aggressively disturbing child in the classroom, through peer approval, or the aplication of accelerating CONsequences in the classroom, or scientifically S-HOWENDING tactics like "TIME HOWET" (which we used to know more simply as "sendin the kid to the cloakroom"). Hobbs (op. cit.) claims that the classroom is a natural environement for the child. Thelen (1965) contends that "classroom practices are UNnatural, UNreasonable, and 'against NATURE.' "This would seem the central issue for the philosophy of education. Mere trivial application of research findings to an institution essentially unchanged from Sumerian academies (Kramer, 1962) will NOT create useful teaching for human beings. It seems relevant to ask EXXXACTLY WHAT do we know abHOWT the learning situation in which HOWER children find themselves, and why, in the light of HOWER knowledge, do we do any of the things that schools do?" We know that there is little agreement among adults as to what it is they are SUPPOSED to be DOING, what something to do could be that MIGHT be EFFECTVE, and what it IS that other people who have authority over children ought to be doing (Mc- Eachern and Taylor, 1967). Wherefor the child's CONfusiHOWEN? It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in deviant behavior of children can be achieved through brief, simple educative routines with their mothers which modify the mother's social behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965). A large number of cases improved sufficiently after preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment of children was required, and almost ALL cases SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy. Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966). Probably the most absurd figure in Amaerican mass media is the TEACHER (Gerbner, 1966). HOWE can we EXXXPECT children to LEARN responsible P-HOWER from models of IMPOTENCE? We KNOW that LEARNING a complex ritualized social role, is facilitated by observation of an INTELLIGIBLE MODEL much more effectively than by trial and error with REINFORCEMENT. Roles which are relatively arbitrary and senseless are the most difficult to learn (Luchins, 1966). Do we make ANY EFFORT as teachers to CORRECT the massive impact of media? HOWE can the ARBITRARINESS and SENSELESSNESS of IMPOTENT ADULT MODELS be redeemed by anything short of RELEVANCE and COMMITMENT? As an engaging final comment on the PROFESSION let me mention the little study by Dittman et al (1965) tha when 15 psychotherapists and 9 professional dancers evaluated facial and bodily expressons for effect the dancers were much MOORE accurate. Need we say MOORE abHOWET the training of therapists? THE OPERANT FALLACY Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement model" proposed by Skinner (1963) ar no more well established in research than the various dynamic therapists. Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of programmed systems for elarning; 2) reinforcement; 3) cognitive dissonance; and 4) motivation, MOST SURELY DEMOLISH the claims of operant programers. The 190 studies annotated by Schramm (1964) when inspected display NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES in SUCCESS among approaches and modifications. Programmed instruction is no worse than conventional instruction, and takes less time, but time reductions in conventional instruction has frequently been shown possible without detrimental effects. If you draw your controls cagily you can always show the superiority of your PET technique. Moore and Smit (1964) compared variations on programmed materials, machines, texts, written responses, merely reading, free response, multiple choice, and iving or not giving the students results. There were NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES despite Skinner's insistence on the importance of the CONTINGENCY of REINFORCEMENT. Carpenter and Greenhill (1963) could find NO DIFFERENCE in RESULTS even after eliminating the self-pacing feature by presenting the materials by TV or Video. Krumboltz and Kiesler (1965) reported that a two month follow up test showed NO DIFFERENCE between students given a variety of reinforcement schedules. Mayo and Longo (1966) report that naval and marine trainees saved 30% of time in learning electronics fundamentals through a programed course witrh superior scores on one measure but not on another, and with no follow-up reported. The same authors reported a reductionj from 26 HOWERS to 19 HOWERS in instruction time through the use of program with NO DIFFERENCE in test scores, except that as longer blocks of materiallearned through programmed means were tesed the scores DECREASED. When the control instruction is manipulated an entirely DIFFERENT picture emerges Jacobs and Kulkarni (1966) assignedstudents in three different schools to classes with standard programmed material giving immediate knowledge of results to classes without results and to classes with the order of sections of the program inverted. In two schools the groups without knowledge of results and the groups with inverted material SCORED HIGHER. In one school there was NO DIFFERENCE. So much for THEORY. Reid and Taylor (1965) presented a linear program on paper-making to 60 paid undergrads with a 12 week follow up test. The group which merely read learned the same material in 154 minutes to 243 minutes for the group given responses- a REVERSAL of the usual BIASED RESULTS based on POOR CON-TROLLS. There were no differences on post tests. Spagnoli (1965) reports on a study exposing the control and programed group to the same material in a concentrated effort over a limited period of time. There were NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES. Sassenrath and Garverick (1965) gave 4 matched groups of 120 students four procedures: 1) looking up the wrong answers, 2) having questions discussed by the instructors, 3) checking answers from correct ones on the board, and 4) no feedback. The discussion method proved best. Finally, in studying means of training men to perform a 72 action prcedure on Nike-Hercules equipment, Cox and Boren (1965) demonstrated that the time required to learn the procedure to critterion was NO DIFFERENT when the actions were organized into seven operant spans and taught in reverse order, in natural order, or without grouping into operant spans at all. IT IS CLEAR that as comparisons became more sophisticated programed instruction and other operant teaching techniquesreveal tehemselves as simply another prestigiHOWES FAD--somewhat better than conventional instruction in saving time, but certainly not providing a better or better organized or more independently useful GRASP of KNOWLEDGE. The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al (1966) report a standard contingent reward/punishment procedure developing imitative speech in two severly disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty- six days the boys are reported to have been learning new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS were moved to a delayed contingency the behavoir and learning immediately deteriorated. Despite this, and despite the fact that there was no evidence of cognitive association with the words, the authors leap to the conclusion that the fact that the boys improved in the acquisition of Norwegian words WITHOUT REWARDS while still being given English words WITH REWARDS suggest hat the children may be able to acquire new behaviors on their own. The need for this study escapes one, particularly in view of the very well established fact that schizophrenics condition quite readily (Mednick, 1958) One can see the "SCIENTIFIC" PRECISION by which the authors drop contingent reinforcements thus PROVING that the parrot behavior was indeed caused by the schedule and NOT by some other mystical force. The use of Norwegian to demonstrate learning that could not even remotely be related to previous history is a grotesquery too bizarre to be credited. Who could possibly doubt that this useless and probably damaging trained seal routine depended on the psychologist's antics? What on earth led them to believe that a schizophrenic needs even more other-focused responsiveness? Lovaas et al (1965) reported three programs carried out on five year old autistic twins conditioining them to "social behavior" and to eliminate pathologial behaviors such as self-stimulation and tantrums. Affectionate and other social behaviors toward adults increaseed after adults had been associated with shock reduction. The routine for this treatment brings immediate relief to mind Sawrey and Wesz (1956) routine for producing ulcers in monkeys. I suppose it is USELESS to speculate on the source of SO CALLED THERAPISTS willingness to experiment on human beings with procedures for which there is sound experimentally established WARNINGS. If the "double blind" theory of the origin of schizophrenia (Bateson, 1956) is at all valid, HOWE DEVASTATING the experience must ULTIMATELY BE. Do Lovaas et al REALLY BELIEVE the schizophrenic has no cognitive processes and DOES NOT KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHOCK? Greger (1965) criticized this study on the basis that trainsfer CANNOT be generalized. That issue can be answered by experience, and, of curse, the "social" behavior of these children deteriorates as soon as the psychologists LOOSE INTEREST. The IMPORTANT ISSUE for a SCIENCE OF BEHAVIOR is why not attempt those things which are KNOWN to WORK at least in some cases if only for control puporses. Kanner (1954) reports that 13 classically autistic children improved enough to go to school without "anything that is regarded as good psychotherapy or as psychotherapy at all..." Autistic children have been known to become permenantely social by deinstitutionalization, BY REMOVAL from the parents, BY RADICAL CHANGES in other environments, and by MASSIVE DOSAGE of TOUCHING, HOLDING, FONDLING LOVE DESPITE THE REJECTION OF THE CHILD. My case, Larry, (vonHilsheimer, 1965b), demonstrates a recovery by using the mother as an autistic boy's teacher in an open millieu. It is curiHOWES that the operant technicians provide as few, and as UNIMAGINITAVE controls for thier "research" as the Freudians. REWARD / PUNISHMENT Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVERY LEARNING THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected reward not received is experienced as a punishment and can produce extensive and persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966). MIMICRY, PLAY, EXPLORATION AND THE NEED FOR DATA Complex activities are LEARNED MORE QUICKLY through OBSERVATION (copying, if you will) than by trial and error with reinforcemet (Luchins,). Observers of subjects making a first trial of a multiple choice bolt head maze made fewer errors than the practiced subjects in the second run, while subjects who have been shocked for error on a first trial made more errors than either (Rosenbaum & Hewitt, 1966). Students will modify their beliefs more when rewarded for the way in which they carried out arguing for a disagreeable position (role reward), than when rewarded for the content of the argument (Wallace, 1966). =================== INTRO TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING MANUAL George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D. F.R.S.H. Several years ago one of my old students telephoned to me and asked me what I knew about Doggie Do Right, a device to cause your neighbor's dog to stop barking. I had not heard of the device, nor its inventor, Jerry Howe, but I telephoned, read his website, and told my graduate that I thought the device was worth a trial - indeed I shut up the dogs in my neighborhood by turning on Jerry's supersonic device. After all we all know that dogs respond to whistles humans cannot hear, so why not respond to "attaboy" sounds which humans cannot hear. My student lived far from my Florida homestead, so he tried it on the three incredibly savage, hyperactive and noisy dogs who lived behind a tall fence just 3 feet back of his bedroom. Hot rats! The device worked, Andy got his sleep and I didn't think much of the matter again. A few months ago I had new neighbors on each side of my house, four of them, all with noisy unshuttupable dogs. Argh! So I foned Andrew in Virgina, received the intelligence that his neighbors dogs were still quiet, and then I foned Jerry Howe, the inventor of Doggie Do Right, who came to visit me. Merlin walked into my office. Jerry is a slender fellow with a belly button lenghth grey beard tapering down his chest. I liked him immediately, and I applied his instrument to the neighborhood again which again became silent. It occured to me that if this ultrasonic field worked with dogs that we ought at least to ask the question, what happens to humans in range of the device??? I asked Jerry to give me a list of customers and began inquiring among them. One thing became immediately evident. The Doggie Do Right not only shuts up your neighbors' dogs, it calms and modifies your husband's behavior. Holey Moley, Captain Marvel, this device has major potential. In the meantime Jerry gave me a copy of his Wits End Dog Training Manual. I was delighted. He also introduced me to the world of professional dog trainers some of whom even have Ph.D.s in psychology. This was not such a delight as it appeared that none of these luminaries had actually read Skinner, Lazarus or other fountains of wisdom in psychology. Indeed, it seemed as though they knew very little about the laws of behavior at all! Punishment and confrontation seemed to be their major stock in trade. Well, if you go to my website, www.drbiofeedback.com you can read of the career of Sam Corson, I.P. Pavlov's last student. Sam demonstrated that rehabilitation of hyperactive dogs can easily and readily be done using TLC, tender loving care is at the root of the scientific management of doggies. Pavlov told us so 100 years ago. So what are these degreed morons doing punishing dogs, and shouting "NO" into their doggie faces? If you pick up B.F.Skinner's last book, CUMULATIVE RECORD, included in it is an essay by Keller Breland and Maryann Breland entitled THE MISBEHAVIOR OF ORGANISMS. Skinner deliberately included his students' chapter to emphasize that you cannot manage the behavior of animals unless you take into consideration 1. the animal's evolutionary niche (who is the animal?); 2. the animal's personal history (who is the animal?) and 3, the instinctive repetoire of the animal (who is the animal?) and 4. the personality of the animal (who is the animal?). The Brelands moved far from the white rat. "Thirty-eight species, totaling over 6,000 individual animals, have been conditioned, and we have dared to tackle such unlikely subjects as reindeer, cockatoos, raccoons, porpoises, and whales." Jerry Howe spends most of his times with dogs, but he has learned Pavlov's lesson well. Dogs are individuals, they are individual DOGS, and they respond most directly and immediately to love and tender loving care. Read with pleasure, and then go love your dog. George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H. Who's Who Honoree since 1983 From: TooCool ) The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method I have studied canine behavior and dog training for years. I have a huge library that covers every system of training. The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced, the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training method yet discovered. It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically consistent manner. Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to understand the basis of his system and please follow his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece. It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed descriptions about why behavior problems occur and how their solution should be approached. One should not pick and choose from among his methods based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion. When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it produces for your dog the owner of his dreams. You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you will become the center of your dogs world, if you use Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15 seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to lie quietly and let me clip his nails). Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction / praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to train you dog to respond to your commands. What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would carry him in response to my recall command-and he comes running every time I call no matter where we are or what he is doing. At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and his Family Pack Leadership exercises. Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him, if you force him then his natural response is to oppose you. Is Jerry a nut? It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not. It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or hurting dogs. More than that, he knows that force is not effective and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems; sometime problems so severe that people put their dogs down because of those problems. I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been at our wits' end, haven't we? Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind to praise. Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise. You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate along with their anxiety. Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End Training Method as a scientific principle just as you would the law of gravity and you will have astounding success. Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity. If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?). --Larry Instrumental / Classical / Operant / Conditioning CC / OC / IC / -P +P / +R -R / S R / R S It's ALL The SAME SAME SAME SAME {); ~ ) George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H. From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." Subject: The Amazing Jerry's take on psychobabble Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:13:44 -0400 You might improve the learning of folk who actually live with and train dogs to do useful things if you excluded everyone who uses psychobabble from your lists. I recommend to all of you who wish to taste the flavor of sensible animal behaviorists to read THE MISBEHAVIOR OF ORGANISMS, Breland and Breland. This married pair of psychologists began the long trail of highly trained animals who are symbolized by Shamu eating a mackrel from a girl's hand instead of eating the much more tasty pretty girl who is exactly the size of the natural food of killer whales, seals. Yum! The essay, by the way, is a chapter in B.F. Skinner's summing up book, CUMULATIVE RECORD. They include a sentence which more or less says, "unless you understand the personal history of the particular animal, and the history of this animal's species and group, the developmental history of the animal, you cannot effectively train the animal. Pigs root and hen's scratch, if you try to train hens without scratching or pigs without scratching or pigeons without pecking, you aren't going to have much success. A conditional reflex is one which is learned, the original primitive reflex occurs no matter what the history of the animal, and is hard wired. If you train the animal to respond, say by ringing a bell immediately before turning on a bright light, then you've taught the animal and made his native reflex of pupil constriction conditional upon the ringing of a bell. Thorndyke added some terminology to this kind of training and insisted that when you train the animal to make gross motor responses that this learning is "instrumental", the animal takes action and uses an instrument. The Russian word translated as "conditional" in all other contexts was mistranslated by Pavlov's American translator, Horsley Gannt, as "conditioned" and so American psychology went haring after phantasmagora. The major theorists for the development of the language of operant conditioning are Edward Thorndike, John Watson, and B. F. Skinner. Their approach to behaviorism played a major role in the development of American psychology. They proposed that learning is the result of the application of consequences; that is, learners begin to connect certain responses with certain stimuli. This connection causes the probability of the response to change (i.e., learning occurs.) Thorndike labeled this type of learning instrumental. Using consequences, he taught kittens to manipulate a latch (e.g., an instrument). Skinner renamed instrumental as "operant" because in this learning, one is "operating" on, and is influenced by, the environment. Where classical conditioning illustrates S--R learning, operant conditioning is often viewed as R--S learning since it is the consequence that follows the response that influences whether the response is likely or unlikely to occur again. It is through operant conditioning that voluntary responses are learned. One should note that Russian Psychology did very well without the operant language, and only pettifogging university professors ought to worry about what kind of label we attach to the learning. Pfui! Even Skinner understood this! And please note if you saw the original movie, THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, you saw a Chinese psychologist who was based on Andrew Salter, CONDITIONED REFLEX THERAPY. Alas, Salter didn't have a Ph.D., but he basically rescued us from the long Freudian nightmare and returned psychotherapy to a scientific basis. Alas, the 2nd movie didn't even cite Salter as a source. "...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation, inhibition and disinhibition." Ivan P. Pavlov George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H. What's important is, "does Shamu reliably eat the fish and not the pretty girl?" George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer "Thank you for fighting the fine fight-- even tho it's a hopeless task, in this system of things. As long as man is ruling man, there will be animals (and humans!) abused and neglected. :-( Your student," Juanita. "If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow," John Wayne. The Amazing Puppy Wizard. {} ; ~ ) |
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