If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Dog shows...
Dog shows, or "conformation" events, are the signature events of the
AKC. They concentrate on the distinctive features of purebred dogs and help to preserve these characteristics by providing a forum at which to evaluate breeding stock. Exhibits are judged against individual breed standards, which have been established for the AKC-recognized breeds by their parent clubs. These written standards describe the ideal size, color, and temperament of each breed, as well as correct proportion, structure, and movement. PUPPY MATCH GROUPS: http://www.rocknrollover.com SHOW QUALITY PUPPY: http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display...rpre=0&intl=us Min. Dachshund Wirehair Show prospects, excellent confirmation and a proven winner. OKC puppy match group 3rd (sat.) and 4th (sun.) Champion sired. S/W pos hg. AKC. photos www.rocknrollover.com $1500.00 Contact: lee 214 546-8902 |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
On 17 Sep 2004 16:59:42 GMT, KWBrown
wrote: [rest of Spam-O-liciousness snipped] (Snip link to puppy miller's yahoo ad) a) that is one huge-arsed file. b) are Dachshunds supposed to be stacked that way? -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott & harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette http://photos.yahoo.com/scouvrette You must have chaos in your heart to give birth to a dancing star. -- Friedrich Nietzsche |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
shelly wrote in
: b) are Dachshunds supposed to be stacked that way? Um, no. http://www.dogsincanada.com/breeds/photos/dachshund_(min_wh).jpg -- Kate and Storm the FCR |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
On 17 Sep 2004 17:31:07 GMT, KWBrown
wrote: Um, no. http://www.dogsincanada.com/breeds/photos/dachshund_(min_wh).jpg heh. i didn't think so, but i didn't want to assume G. now *that* dog looks much nicer, to my ignorant eye. the OP's dog's hind legs looked just plain wonky to me. he seems to be duck-footed in front, too. oh, and chubby. he's on the road to a sag-down instead of a tuck-up. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott & harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette http://photos.yahoo.com/scouvrette The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks. -- Douglas Adams |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
shelly wrote in
: the OP's dog's hind legs looked just plain wonky to me. he seems to be duck-footed in front, too. oh, and chubby. he's on the road to a sag-down instead of a tuck-up. Disclaimer I am a Sporting Dog person and only admire Dachshunds from afar /disclaimer Dachshunds have weird front ends. Dogs in Canada has been running a long series on terriers, talking about the short-legged dogs and *their* fronts. Last issue also had a "You be the Judge" article on Corgi fronts. There are all sorts of interesting ways to handle short-legs-big-chest-dig-holes- anyway conformation, and each of the stubby breeds seems to do it differently. I *don't* think there's a lot of turn-out in a Dachshund front, though - just a bit of wrap around the chest. (Just checked AKC standard. Feet may be inclined slightly outward.) -- Kate and Storm the FCR |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
On 17 Sep 2004 16:59:42 GMT, KWBrown
wrote: You have the nerve to call this untested animal a "proven winner" and then try to hawk him for *twice* what a responsible breeder is charging me for my pup whose pedigree is loaded with conformation (that's conFORMation) and performance titles up both sides. i just looked at the actual text of the ad and almost choked on my sodapoppepsicoke when i saw what they were charging. good grief! at that price, they'd damned better well be talking more about health testing than iffy conFORMation brags. -- shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott & harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette http://photos.yahoo.com/scouvrette Is not life a thousand times too short for us to bore ourselves? -- Friedrich Nietzsche |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
"rocknrollover.com" wrote in message om... Min. Dachshund Wirehair Show prospects, excellent confirmation and a proven winner. OKC puppy match group 3rd (sat.) and 4th (sun.) Champion sired. S/W pos hg. AKC. photos www.rocknrollover.com $1500.00 Contact: lee 214 546-8902 PUPPY MILL: A producer of multiple breeds of dog, intending only to make a profit. Has little to no concern about the health, temperament, conFORmation of the puppies produced or the welfare of the parents and puppies. Often sells to pet stores and brokers, but will also sell direct to the consumer, as the internet has become a giant flea-market. Buyer beware, as the miller will use lots of catchphrases that they have learned to parrot as ways to sucker in those un- and under-educated consumers. Christy |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
"shelly" wrote in message ... a) that is one huge-arsed file. b) are Dachshunds supposed to be stacked that way? Nice hocks, eh? I like the Stepford-wife stare holding the ribbons and $.50 PetEdge toy in the background. (We get those as check-in gifts at trials!) Christy |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
[follow-ups set to the appropriate group rpd.breeds]
In rec.pets.dogs.activities rocknrollover.com wrote: Dog shows, or "conformation" events, are the signature events of the AKC. They concentrate on the distinctive features of purebred dogs and help to preserve these characteristics by providing a forum at which to evaluate breeding stock. Yes, , but it is only one very small part of the evaluation of breeding stock. AKC has no requirements that the dog being judged be healthy. It need not have correct temperament. It need not have the behaviorial characteristics one would expect of the breed. It need not come from healthy lines. All that is juduged is the facade. Exhibits are judged against individual breed standards, which have been established for the AKC-recognized breeds by their parent clubs. These written standards describe the ideal size, color, and temperament of each breed, as well as correct proportion, structure, and movement. This is not completely accurate. The way standards are written varies widely between breeds. Some are quite vague adn without the breed name attached to it it can be a challenge to identify the breed by that written standard. Quite a few have no particular size requirements, and many that do state those in meaningless generl terms instead of some "ideal" e.g. "a medium size". Very few breeds describe an ideal color, most describe permitted and non-allowed colors. Quite a few breed standards do not provide meaningful information on correct structure. They may give the topic a nod, but there isn't enough information there to draw a model of the dog from that information. PUPPY MATCH GROUPS: http://www.rocknrollover.com Ah, good example of the kind of website that should make an interested person really research what questions to ask. First notice the number of breeeds being offered for sale: Boston Terrier, Miniature Dachshund, Italian Greyhound, Rhodesian Ridgeback puppies It is unusual for a good quality breeder to be actively breeding two breeds, it is rare for a good quality breeder to be actively breeding three breeds, but four breeds - well that red flag is waving. I suppose it is possible for a breeder to do a good job with four breeds, but it ought to atke a lot of convincing. Usuaally that many breeds is more typical of "pups for bucks" operations than quality breedings. Second, notice the lack of information on the page. Yes, there is a pedigree. But there is no information on the genetic history of those dogs. A quality breeder of dachshunds is going to have information about clearance for PRA, a statement about which health registry(s) the clearances for hips, elbows and patellas were used (often the actual certificate numbers will be included) and more indepth information about the qualities of the lines being bred. Essentially this website looks like the kind of website that was designed to attract someone who hasn't learned what "Champion" can and cannot tell you about a breeding. If a person is looking for a great companion there isn't enough information there to describe a great companion. ANd if they are honestly hopeful of success in the show ring then researching the information that IS three doesn't make those really high odds. That isn't to say it can't happen, but there isn't much behind these puppies. This is a different breed but here is an exmple of what you should be hearing from a breeder in regard to background: http://www.castlerockacres.com/chess..._willowynd.htm I'm not expecting this level of detail on a webpage. But a person SHOULD expect to see an express statement that OFA and CERF clearances were obtained, and the interested person should be able to confirm that by checking the on-line databases. http://www.dachshund-dca.org/Health%...d_Welfare.html http://www.dachsie.org/health.html SHOW QUALITY PUPPY: http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display...rpre=0&intl=us Min. Dachshund Wirehair Show prospects, excellent confirmation and a The word is "conformation" proven winner. OKC puppy match group 3rd (sat.) and 4th (sun.) Winning a puppy match is very exciting, but not particularly meaningful in the long run. Champion sired. S/W pos hg. AKC. photos www.rocknrollover.com $1500.00 Boy, that is one hugely expensive puppy given the lack of information. -- Diane Blackman http://dog-play.com/ http://dogplay.com/Shop/ |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Dog Shows | Cin | Dog breeds | 10 | April 7th 04 12:38 PM |
Something messed up about dog show people | Alton | Dog breeds | 109 | December 10th 03 02:30 PM |
Dog Shows | KnnthClark | Dog activities | 2 | October 16th 03 07:19 AM |