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Old September 22nd 05, 10:32 PM
Chris Jung
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Hi,
Our tenants (Kim and her two kids, Zack & Zoie) adopted a dog from the local
SPCA almost two weeks ago. She was brought in as a neglect case with a
litter of pups and was at the SPCA for about 4 weeks since she was
emaciated. As you will see from the photos, she's still one skinny dog but
after 6 weeks of good food, she's looking much better.

The SPCA said that she is a whippet but my first response when I saw her was
"What a big head!" as I was expecting a dry, lean whippet head. In fact her
head seems too big for her body but I wonder if some of that is because
she's so thin and under-muscled. I also think her ears are too houndy to be
whippet. She's all white except for about a dozen or so small round body
spots and many of the spots are almost invisible - that is they are spots on
her skin but just a few colored hairs on her coat. I think she may be
brindle. The only spot big enough to have any idea about color is on her ear
and I see black hairs and tan hairs and I think it's brindle. Her
pigmentation is black with black eye rims, black spotted nose and black
spots on her lips

In terms of personality Gemini is very sweet and reserved with people. She
has made overtures to play with Pablo & Lucy and she loves to join in with
the chase games. The scratches on her face are from Maggie the Cat
explaining the House Rules on the first day. She's not a trotting dog but
instead likes to erupt in a burst of speed. She's about the height of Lucy
(roughly 21") and I think will be about 45-ish lbs.

So the SPCA says Whippet, no doubt about it. I don't think she can be a
purebred sighthound with that head but I think there's some in her - maybe a
little bit of Greyhound or Whippet? I think there might be some Dalmatian in
the woodpile but the vet says no way ( I love you Dr. Bonnie but I still
think I'm right). Now this sounds strange but sometimes I get the idea of a
bull terrier when I look at her face - something about her nose/muzzle and
deep-set eyes. I don't really think there's BT in her but maybe there's
some pit in her? Bhen I think of a pit personality I think of a gregarious
dog with a big smile and whippy waggy tail. Gemini is friendly but very
gentle & demure in her affection. And I don't see any pit in her body. A
pointer or hound (foxhound?) could explain the ears. . .

Here's some photos I took this week: http://makeashorterlink.com/?C38B218DB
I didn't have anyone to pose her but I think you can get a decent idea to
her body and head structure.

Gemini is quite the distinctive looking dog - so what do you folks think she
is? A Whip-Pit? A Grey-matian? A Greater Ithacan Slinky Dog?

Chris and her smoothies
Pablo and Lucy



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Old September 22nd 05, 11:25 PM
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:32:36 GMT, "Chris Jung" ,
clicked their heels and said:

Now this sounds strange but sometimes I get the idea of a
bull terrier when I look at her face - something about her nose/muzzle and
deep-set eyes.



that was my first impression of her. What an interesting looking dog!
One shot looks a little Weim-like, she has more bulk than a Whippet or
Greyhound certainly, so perhaps some BT could be in there someplace.
Very unique dog!


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Old September 22nd 05, 11:50 PM
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"Chris Jung" wrote in message
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Hi,
Our tenants (Kim and her two kids, Zack & Zoie) adopted a dog from the
local SPCA almost two weeks ago. She was brought in as a neglect case
with a litter of pups and was at the SPCA for about 4 weeks since she was
emaciated. As you will see from the photos, she's still one skinny dog but
after 6 weeks of good food, she's looking much better.

The SPCA said that she is a whippet but my first response when I saw her
was "What a big head!" as I was expecting a dry, lean whippet head. In
fact her head seems too big for her body but I wonder if some of that is
because she's so thin and under-muscled. I also think her ears are too
houndy to be whippet. She's all white except for about a dozen or so
small round body spots and many of the spots are almost invisible - that
is they are spots on her skin but just a few colored hairs on her coat. I
think she may be brindle. The only spot big enough to have any idea about
color is on her ear and I see black hairs and tan hairs and I think it's
brindle. Her pigmentation is black with black eye rims, black spotted
nose and black spots on her lips

In terms of personality Gemini is very sweet and reserved with people. She
has made overtures to play with Pablo & Lucy and she loves to join in with
the chase games. The scratches on her face are from Maggie the Cat
explaining the House Rules on the first day. She's not a trotting dog but
instead likes to erupt in a burst of speed. She's about the height of
Lucy (roughly 21") and I think will be about 45-ish lbs.

So the SPCA says Whippet, no doubt about it. I don't think she can be a
purebred sighthound with that head but I think there's some in her - maybe
a little bit of Greyhound or Whippet? I think there might be some
Dalmatian in the woodpile but the vet says no way ( I love you Dr. Bonnie
but I still think I'm right). Now this sounds strange but sometimes I get
the idea of a bull terrier when I look at her face - something about her
nose/muzzle and deep-set eyes. I don't really think there's BT in her but
maybe there's some pit in her? Bhen I think of a pit personality I think
of a gregarious dog with a big smile and whippy waggy tail. Gemini is
friendly but very gentle & demure in her affection. And I don't see any
pit in her body. A pointer or hound (foxhound?) could explain the ears. .
.

Here's some photos I took this week:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C38B218DB I didn't have anyone to pose her
but I think you can get a decent idea to her body and head structure.

Gemini is quite the distinctive looking dog - so what do you folks think
she is? A Whip-Pit? A Grey-matian? A Greater Ithacan Slinky Dog?


Gemini, shape-wise, looks very Dalmation like to me. Face, body shape,
everything but the spots. I have a Dalmation.

flick 100785


Chris and her smoothies
Pablo and Lucy





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Old September 22nd 05, 11:52 PM
Janet B
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:50:15 -0500, "flick" ,
clicked their heels and said:

I have a Dalmation.

flick 100785


Is that the same as a DalmatiAN?


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Old September 23rd 05, 12:19 AM
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:32:36 GMT, "Chris Jung"
wrote:

Hi,
Our tenants (Kim and her two kids, Zack & Zoie) adopted a dog from the local
SPCA almost two weeks ago. She was brought in as a neglect case with a
litter of pups and was at the SPCA for about 4 weeks since she was
emaciated. As you will see from the photos, she's still one skinny dog but
after 6 weeks of good food, she's looking much better.

The SPCA said that she is a whippet but my first response when I saw her was
"What a big head!" as I was expecting a dry, lean whippet head. In fact her
head seems too big for her body but I wonder if some of that is because
she's so thin and under-muscled. I also think her ears are too houndy to be
whippet. She's all white except for about a dozen or so small round body
spots and many of the spots are almost invisible - that is they are spots on
her skin but just a few colored hairs on her coat. I think she may be
brindle. The only spot big enough to have any idea about color is on her ear
and I see black hairs and tan hairs and I think it's brindle. Her
pigmentation is black with black eye rims, black spotted nose and black
spots on her lips

In terms of personality Gemini is very sweet and reserved with people. She
has made overtures to play with Pablo & Lucy and she loves to join in with
the chase games. The scratches on her face are from Maggie the Cat
explaining the House Rules on the first day. She's not a trotting dog but
instead likes to erupt in a burst of speed. She's about the height of Lucy
(roughly 21") and I think will be about 45-ish lbs.

So the SPCA says Whippet, no doubt about it. I don't think she can be a
purebred sighthound with that head but I think there's some in her - maybe a
little bit of Greyhound or Whippet? I think there might be some Dalmatian in
the woodpile but the vet says no way ( I love you Dr. Bonnie but I still
think I'm right). Now this sounds strange but sometimes I get the idea of a
bull terrier when I look at her face - something about her nose/muzzle and
deep-set eyes. I don't really think there's BT in her but maybe there's
some pit in her? Bhen I think of a pit personality I think of a gregarious
dog with a big smile and whippy waggy tail. Gemini is friendly but very
gentle & demure in her affection. And I don't see any pit in her body. A
pointer or hound (foxhound?) could explain the ears. . .

Here's some photos I took this week: http://makeashorterlink.com/?C38B218DB
I didn't have anyone to pose her but I think you can get a decent idea to
her body and head structure.

Gemini is quite the distinctive looking dog - so what do you folks think she
is? A Whip-Pit? A Grey-matian? A Greater Ithacan Slinky Dog?


Not only is she most certainly not a purebred sighthound, I don't see
any Whippet or Greyhound in her at all. The head does look
Dalmatian-y, and Dals can have pretty deep chests.

Mustang Sally
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Old September 23rd 05, 12:57 AM
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I know it's rare, but looks a little like one of these:

http://www.thebreedsofdogs.com/PORCELAINE.htm

"Chris Jung" wrote in message
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Hi,
Our tenants (Kim and her two kids, Zack & Zoie) adopted a dog from the
local SPCA almost two weeks ago. She was brought in as a neglect case
with a litter of pups and was at the SPCA for about 4 weeks since she was
emaciated. As you will see from the photos, she's still one skinny dog but
after 6 weeks of good food, she's looking much better.

The SPCA said that she is a whippet but my first response when I saw her
was "What a big head!" as I was expecting a dry, lean whippet head. In
fact her head seems too big for her body but I wonder if some of that is
because she's so thin and under-muscled. I also think her ears are too
houndy to be whippet. She's all white except for about a dozen or so
small round body spots and many of the spots are almost invisible - that
is they are spots on her skin but just a few colored hairs on her coat. I
think she may be brindle. The only spot big enough to have any idea about
color is on her ear and I see black hairs and tan hairs and I think it's
brindle. Her pigmentation is black with black eye rims, black spotted
nose and black spots on her lips

In terms of personality Gemini is very sweet and reserved with people. She
has made overtures to play with Pablo & Lucy and she loves to join in with
the chase games. The scratches on her face are from Maggie the Cat
explaining the House Rules on the first day. She's not a trotting dog but
instead likes to erupt in a burst of speed. She's about the height of
Lucy (roughly 21") and I think will be about 45-ish lbs.

So the SPCA says Whippet, no doubt about it. I don't think she can be a
purebred sighthound with that head but I think there's some in her - maybe
a little bit of Greyhound or Whippet? I think there might be some
Dalmatian in the woodpile but the vet says no way ( I love you Dr. Bonnie
but I still think I'm right). Now this sounds strange but sometimes I get
the idea of a bull terrier when I look at her face - something about her
nose/muzzle and deep-set eyes. I don't really think there's BT in her but
maybe there's some pit in her? Bhen I think of a pit personality I think
of a gregarious dog with a big smile and whippy waggy tail. Gemini is
friendly but very gentle & demure in her affection. And I don't see any
pit in her body. A pointer or hound (foxhound?) could explain the ears. .
.

Here's some photos I took this week:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C38B218DB I didn't have anyone to pose her
but I think you can get a decent idea to her body and head structure.

Gemini is quite the distinctive looking dog - so what do you folks think
she is? A Whip-Pit? A Grey-matian? A Greater Ithacan Slinky Dog?

Chris and her smoothies
Pablo and Lucy





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Old September 23rd 05, 01:46 AM
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My guess is Bull Terrier mix.

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Old September 23rd 05, 02:51 AM
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sighthounds & siberians wrote:


Not only is she most certainly not a purebred sighthound, I don't see
any Whippet or Greyhound in her at all. The head does look
Dalmatian-y, and Dals can have pretty deep chests.


What looks slightly sighthoundy to me is the smooth rise over the loin.
But definitely not anything near pure. And she has about the
straightest/most upright withers I've ever seen. If anything in the
sighthound family I think I'd verge toward Saluki type mixed with
something like a Dal.
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Old September 23rd 05, 03:45 AM
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 01:51:23 GMT, Robin Nuttall
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sighthounds & siberians wrote:


Not only is she most certainly not a purebred sighthound, I don't see
any Whippet or Greyhound in her at all. The head does look
Dalmatian-y, and Dals can have pretty deep chests.


What looks slightly sighthoundy to me is the smooth rise over the loin.
But definitely not anything near pure. And she has about the
straightest/most upright withers I've ever seen. If anything in the
sighthound family I think I'd verge toward Saluki type mixed with
something like a Dal.


I'd want to see more than that before I guessed sighthound; I think
that's just a function of her weight and overall condition. And
Saluki is about the last sighthound I'd guess, except maybe for
deerhound; I have pictures around here of a Dal/Saluki cross, and it
looks much more Saluki than Dal. Most sighthound crosses look much
more sighthoundy than this dog. It's why we constantly get calls
about the Greyhound/coonhound crosses in the pounds; they really do
look like Greyhounds. This dog doesn't look even remotely
sighthoundish to me, and I'm surrounded by sighthounds.

Mustang Sally

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Old September 23rd 05, 05:58 AM
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"Chris Jung" wrote in
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http://makeashorterlink.com/?C38B218DB


Excellent photos! And there is NO WAY this dog could be a purebred Whippet
(although Whippets might come in this color, too). Somebody give these
shelter folks a decent dog book.

Some sighthound blood isn't impossible, but she is hardly even half
sighthound. Dalmatian blood is possible too, but she is not half Dal either
- 1st gen crosses have always more spotting/ticking than she does. Michelle
mentions Porcelaine, and it is very, very close - except color! Porcelaines
are always ee recessive yellows, this dog here isn't. So at least one
parent has to be non-Porcelaine. Gemini is rather houndish anyway, so some
kind of hound or gundog parent is possible. If she is close to Whippet
size, she might very well have some Jack Russell there too.

My guess: 1/4 Dalmatian or Pointer, 1/4 (or more) Bull Terrier, 1/4 JRT.
Rest can be about whatever.

Liisa
 




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