Has any list member used the Pseudo Human Fear Trauma Scent? I'm in
the process of ordering some and would be interested to hear how others
have used it and if they can give me any novel ideas on it's uses.

Regards,
Grant 'The Paw Man' Teeboon
Police Dog Handler - RAAF
26 yrs service
ICQ# 12854070

Pawman wrote:
Pawman wrote:

Jerry, Until you become a man of your word



You're a dog abusing punk, grant.

Grant replies:
So you don't deny you're not a man of your word.... well thats one
admission out of the way.



and follow through with your promises


Jerry wrote:
I've EXXXPOSED and DISCREDITED you, grant.
You're havin a PSYCHOTIC REACTION, grant,
just like the rest of the mental cases on
my forums.

Grant replies:
I'm not interested in what's going on in your fantasy world Jerry. I'm
only interested in facts.... something I have challenged you to produce
and so far all you have done is produce more home made fantasy from
your own warped mind. Wow Jerry i'm sure you're impressing some 4th
graders..... well at least you're impressing your peers.


then I'm not interested in reading any of your crap.


Jerry wrote:
You can't DEFEND your RIDICULOUSLY ABUSIVE METHODS
or you WOULD, wouldn't you, grant. You can't defend
your corrupt BUSINESS, or you WOULD, wouldn't you,
grant. You're a FRAUD A THIEF A DOG ABUSER A COWARD
and MENTAL CASE, grant.

Grant replies:
Produce some factual evidence instead of misquoted text taken out of
context and I'll gladly defend every FACTUAL accusation you raise.

Grant wrote:

You have no credibility as either a dog trainer
or as a human being and as such all your words
are worthless to me.


Jerry replied:
I've EXXXPOSED your SCAM, grant:

Grant replies:
I'm still waiting to see any factual basis for any accusation.... you
produce facts (which we both know you are incapable of doing) and maybe
people will take you seriously...... keep ranting like a loon and
people will treat you like one.

Jerry wrote:

HOWEDY grant teeboon aka pawman, RAAF K-9
INSTRUCTOR / BREEDING PROGRAM Director,


Grant replies:
Instructor yes.... the rest you have stated in pure fantasy.

Jerry wrote:

Seems the fruit don't fall far from the doGgamened
fruitcake, eh grant?


Grant replies:
I dunno Jerry, are you standing next to your mother?

Jerry wrote
Same arguments, same failure

rate, same EXXXCUSES, same unwillingness to TALK
BUSINESS, grant.


Grant replies:
To argue you have to put up a factual arguement.... so by definition
you have refused to argue because so far you have failed to prove a
single allegation or produce anything resembling facts. Perhaps you
missed a previous post where I told you that I talk business with
businessmen....... There's nothing businesslike about you so why would
I want to discuss business with you?


Jerry wrote:
THAT'S HOWE COME you're soon to

be INDICTED for FRAUD and misapupriation of gov't
funds and pupperty:


Grant replies:
For that to happen these things have to happen first;
1. I would have to have committed a crime/offence. As that hasn't
happened then I am not concerned.
2. You would have to have proof of the above. (refer to number one)
3. You would have to make a formal official complaint. (refer to
number one)


Grant replies:
Jerry, you have my job title totally wrong,

Jerry replies:
Tsk, tsk, shame shame on ME!:

Grant adds:
It all demonstartes your credibility Jerry..... so far nothing to
demonstrate.

Jerry quotes from The Paw Man Website (www.thepawman.com.au)
"Current Duties My duties at the Military Working
Dog Training Flight at RAAF Amberley (Brisbane)
are many and varied. I am currently the Senior
Non Commissioned Officer In Charge of Military
Working Dog Husbandry."

Grant adds:
Thats correct Jerry, In 2002 I was the SNCOIC Husbandry.

Jerry continues with a quote from The Paw Mans web site:
"The Paw Mans qualifications include:
23 years service as a Police Dog Handler with the
Royal Australian Air Force. Click here to see a
photo of Grant with his last dog. 8 Years as an
Instructor at the RAAFs Police Dog Handler Training
School."

Grant adds:
If you look at my signature block you will see that that information is
3 years old. I'm now in my 11th years as an instructor.

Jerry now quotes from an Australian civilian, Mr David Sweeney:

Alpha wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

what is it I have some interesting pics of
our dogs from the RAAF worth $27,000 thats
9k each


Jerry makes an incredible observation: (his powers of observation are
truely mind numbing)
I noticed the three dogs are straining on their choke collars.

Grant replies:
Wow Jerry that's the second fact you've got right in a single post.
The fact that the photographer askes us to set the photo up to get the
dogs doing that would not of course cross your mind.. yess Jerry even
we humble formally trained Police Dog handlers are also fully aware of
positive thigmotaxis. So far you have demonstrated that you make
assumtive accusations with little or no attempt to ascertain the
truth...... yup that sounds like you.

Jerry wrote:

From the second article, a quote from Sergeant
Grant Teeboon, referring to 3 failed dogs:
"They're a fruit loop dog -- they're hyperactive."


Grant replies:
If you had more than one brain cell you would realise that I was
referring to the breed in general, not just those three particular
dogs. Oh but I forgot your education level is somewhat demonstrably
lacking.

Jerry wrote:
That's a PREDICTABLE RESULT of allowing
the dog to be choked and using so called
corrections.

Grant replies:
I'm looking at the hard copy of that picture right now and I don't see
any corrections Jerry. I see three young enthusiastic dogs pulling on
the lead just as the press photographer asked us to do for his photo.

Jerry wrote:
The fruit loop is the "trainer" who makes
excuses for his inability and hurts and
intimidates to train a dog.

Grant replies:
This remark just demonstrates that you don't let little things like
facts get in the way of your fantasies.

Grant wrote:

which again shows that you have no concept
of what I really do.


Jerry wrote:
So, you're sayin you AIN'T a K-9 INSTRUCTOR in charge
of the breeding / procurement program for RAAF?:

Grant replies:
That's 100% correct Jerry.... I am NOT in charge of the breeding or
procurement program for the RAAF, not have I ever been in the passed.
But again don't let the facts get in your way now.... we're all used to
you making it up as you go along.

Jerry repeats the same quote from my web site:
"Current Duties My duties at the Military Working
Dog Training Flight at RAAF Amberley (Brisbane)
are many and varied. I am currently the Senior
Non Commissioned Officer In Charge of Military
Working Dog Husbandry."

Grant replies:
I dont know why Jerry put that up again.... there's nothing there that
says anything other than me being the SNCOIC Husbandry. Perhaps Jerry
is not familiar with the term husbandry..... it's the care of animals
Jerry.

"The Paw Mans qualifications include:
23 years service as a Police Dog Handler with the
Royal Australian Air Force. Click here to see a
photo of Grant with his last dog. 8 Years as an
Instructor at the RAAFs Police Dog Handler Training
School."


Grant wrote:

For future reference unless I address a post to
you I do not want you to answer any of my posts.


Jerry replied:
I've EXXXPOSED your corrupt training methods and
your self serving FRAUDULENT REMEDY. Let's TALK
about your FRAUDULENT BUSINESS, dog abuser:

Grant replies:
Making up allegations isn't exposing something Jerry. You need facts
to do that....... F.A.C.T.S.... oh go look it up in the dictionary
Jerry or get a grown up to explain them to you.

Jerry now quotes from a civilian Mr David Sweeney again.

Date: Sun, Mar 30 2003
Subject: Belgian Malinois FOR SALE


6 Malinois for sale 1 Male 5 Females, as supplied
to the RAAF, due to the war all purchases by the
military are on hold, we therefore have these 8
week old pups to offer at $300.00 each.

Grant adds:
Please note Jerry that Mr Sweeney says that these dogs are as supplied
TO THE RAAF, not FROM the RAAF. Other statements he makes in his post
are factually flawed but you can take that up with him.

Suitable for Secueiry, Agility, Obedience, Search &
Rescue, Tracking and all dog sports, these dogs are
fully imprinted with no vices, scared of nothing, not
shy or nervouse very fast recovery all have good hunt
and prey drives, full mouth and hold bite.


Dave......


ps fully vaccinated and wormed can deliver Australia wide.


Grant wrote:

If you do answer to a post sent in by me


Jerry wrote:
I use your own POSTED CASE HISTORY to
IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you, grant:

Grant replies:
I only have one case history committed to print and that is the one on
the opening page of my web site. Anything else you state as a case
histore written by me is erroneous.... that means you makde a mistake
Jerry.... again.

Jerry wrote:
You're FINISHED rippin off the People of Australia
and HURTIN and INTIMIDATING and MURDERING dogs, grant.

Grant replies:
I don't know how to answer a quastion based on a story that you have
made up. Show me something factual Jerry and I'm sure I can assist
your inability to comprehend things.

Grant wrote:

You keep demonstrating by your actions that you are
incapable of logical thought and basic understanding.


Jerry showed his elloquence by answering:
You're the dog abusing punk thug coward thief, grant.

Grant replied:
You might as well call me a lesbian trojan who shot JFK too..... if
you're going to make up a fantasy at least make it a good one. Your
old ones are getting lamer.

Grant wrote

I don't know if you made it past the 4th grade in the
American scholastic system but in every post I send it
informs the reader that I am a Police Dog Handler....


Jerry replied:
So, you AIN'T an INSTRUCTOR in charge of the BREEDING
program for your RAAF K-0 unit, grant?:

Grant replied:
If you want to make up facts about me being in charge of our breeding
program you should at least have a factual basis for your fantasy. In
my signature block it says I am an Instructor..... the rest you have
made up yourself.

"Current Duties My duties at the Military Working
Dog Training Flight at RAAF Amberley (Brisbane)
are many and varied. I am currently the Senior
Non Commissioned Officer In Charge of Military
Working Dog Husbandry."

Grant replies:
Hell Jerry so far you have quoted it three times...... haven't you
understood it yet? Surely your comprehension ability isn't that poor?

"The Paw Mans qualifications include:
23 years service as a Police Dog Handler with the
Royal Australian Air Force. Click here to see a
photo of Grant with his last dog. 8 Years as an
Instructor at the RAAFs Police Dog Handler Training
School."


Grant wrote

you keep making references to me as a SAR Dog Handler.
Again another example that you don't know what or who
you're talking about.


Jerry wrote:
Are you DENYING your own BUSINESS is TRAININ
david aka alphalpha sweeney to SELL your REJECT
k-0's, grant?

Grant replies:
My web site clearly says what my civilian business is.... and its not
training.... it's about correcting problem dog behaviours..... if only
your mother had corrected yours.

Jerry wrote:
You got a paper trail a mile wide
and and a mile long and a mile deep, grant.

Grant replies:
Yup and even a 4th grader would be able to understand it..... but you
don't appear to be able to.

Jerry wrote:
It should be EZ for your government to hold you
accHOWEntable for your misapupriation of your
own SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED and TESTED RAAF
k-0 candidates that YOU TRAINED to become "FRUI
LOOP HYPERACTIVE DOGS," grant.

Grant adds:
Then do something about it Jerry, so far you have promised to make a
formal complaint and back it up with facts. So far you have done
nothing. You can't even keep your own promises. You set yourself up
as the judge.... yet you can't prove a sinmgle allegation you make. So
now whose the fraud? Again you assume that the dogs we gave away were
trained..... sadly again you are assuming and assuming incorrectly.....
but now we're seeing where your facts come from..... you just assume
them.

Grant wrote:

I'm sure if you do a few days research you may,
just may be able to work out the difference.


Jerry wrote:
You mean, like THIS?:
They don't need to be hard for SAR work do they, huh?


You wouldn't be using them for protection work would
you, the Air Force wouldn't allow that now, would they.


Probably some contract that states that, huh?

Grant replies:
What people do with dogs that we give away for free is not of our
concern.

So Jerry:
I'm still waiting for your formal complaint to materialise....... or
are you going to cop out by saying you're too busy writing your posts
on here to get around to it?

I challenged you to put up or shut up.. (something we know you are
incapable of doing) You said you had proof, so far we have seen none.
You said you were going to act upon your so called facts... so far you
have not.

You spend wasted hours denegrating others and yet you are unable to do
a single act that you said you were going to do to disclose some dog
abusing thief thug murderer and whatever else you saw on the disney
channel while you were typing.

Grant 'The Paw Man' Teeboon
Police Dog Handler - RAAF
26 yrs service
ICQ# 12854070

WTF ?