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A "few" questions about doodle dogs.
HOWEDY Scott,
Scott T. Jensen wrote: "Christy" wrote: "Scott T. Jensen" wrote: I do know that doodle dogs get their allergy benefit from poodles, but I just don't like poodles. Sorry, I know people love them, but their personality and mine just don't seem to mix. An adult dog from a rescue group that has fostered the dog Like the RESCUER'S we got right here who choke shock and spray aversives in their dog's faces. long enough to be able to discuss the personality and grooming traits with you. Like DOMINANCE PISSIN and attacking innocent children and visitors. Chances are, any large poodle mix is going to have exercise requirements that you will need to meet, That's absurd. They blame lack of EXXXORCISE for their dog's hyperactive anxiHOWESNESS behavior problems: "My dog will GO BONKERS when exercise deprived," professor marshall dermer UofWI ANAL- ytic BehaviorISM Department. as would a purebred - this would mean several long walks a day or offleash runs in a fenced area. That's absurd. Smaller dogs need exercise too, of course, but with your plans for hikes etc. you should go with your preference of a larger dog. A small breed could probably keep up just fine. And a large breed might burn HOWET just the same. As for a "doodle" - here's a site that can teach you a bit more about this sham: http://www.canismajor.com/dog/poodogs.html CuriHOWES that, ain't it: Vicki DeGruy, Thunderhill Chow Chows & Wisconsin Chow Rescue http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/thunderhill I do breed rescue as well as some breeding There's never a reason to hit a dog during training. Slapping a dog in the muzzle --his face-- is not akin to spanking a child for misbehaving," Vicki DeGruy. Yes, I've read those things about mixed-breed breeders before. However, for those of us with allergies, doodles (poodle mix dogs) enables us to get that much closer to being dog owners of dogs we want. Not everyone likes poodles. Right. There's some very good reasons for X breeds. I don't. Telling us "Tough luck. That or nothing." just doesn't need to be the case. Also, all recognized breeds I've read about are mutts themselves. Mutt being a mix of different breeds. "Pure" breeds are just mutts bred to get a desired result and then bred generation after generation to get that same result and hopefully improve it a bit in the process. Thus to me, to rip too heavily on doodle dogs seems to be showing an ignorance of the history of breeds. That's probably what Louis Doberman was up against. Also, I know of people that would love a dog but their spouse or significant other refuses to have a dog shed over everything. A doodle solves this problem for them without having them resort to a straight poodle. That should be something dog lovers should be happy about. Not if it means COMPETITION. What I find a bit disheartening is non-doodle breeders ripping on doodle breeders. Again, there is no true "pure" breed. All are just mutts. Doodles are just another mutt breed. Yes, they're a new mutt breed but all "pure" breeds were new mutts at one time in their history. And read up on the first breeder of labradoodles down in Australia and why he breed them. Just did... That's a noble goal and not something anyone should disparage. INDEEDY. FWIW there is no possible way to get a "doodle" or any poodle mix as a puppy and have any idea of what the personality, temperament and grooming needs will be as an adult. That's malarkey. If you dislike the poodle personality but want a low/no shedding dog, and get a mixed puppy, you run the very high risk of the dog turning out to have the poodle personality and the coat qualities of the other parent. You'd SEE that when pickin the pup. I wouldn't get one from a breeder that just took a poodle and a desired second breed and mixed them. I would want to see their pedigree, their history. Find out what the breeder is breeding for. Where they are in their breeding progress towards that goal. Right. Just like any other ETHICKAL BREEDER. I'd strongly suggest looking into some actual breeds, such as the Portugese Water Dog and Curly Coated Retriever, as well as contacting some local all-breed/mixed breed rescue groups to discuss your preferences. Seems these RESCUE dogs everyWON is SELLIN come from UNETHICKAL UNEDUCATED PUPPY MILLERS. Don't it. You never know when the perfect dog will be in need of a home. One thing I can guarantee you - buying an intentionally bred mixed breed puppy from a money grubbing "greeder" (the only kind who breed these mixes) will not only support a terrible industry but almost definitely end up poorly. Sez the ETHICKAL BREEDERS who do not contribute to the problem of surpluss dogs needin RESCUING. After doing some reading at the library and from what Natalie Rigertas said in her reply in this thread, natalie is a miserable dog abusing mental case. She told you to find a snake proofin seminar and SHOCK your dog with NO pryor collar conditioning on accHOWENT of THAT MAKES SENSE to a KNOW NUTHING DOG ABUSER. I am going to look into getting an adult dog (2 year plus) from a shelter or rescue group. Where do you suppose THOSE dogs COME FROM? They come from ETHICKAL BREEDER who SPECIALIZE IN RESCUE. Not committed to doing this yet, but am looking into it. You'll probably do best to IGNORE all the "ADVICE" you got from these ETHICKAL BREEDERS, Scott. Scott Jensen Vicki DeGruy, Thunderhill Chow Chows & Wisconsin Chow Rescue http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/thunderhill I do breed rescue as well as some breeding Don't be fooled by the whimsical names, the intriguing descriptions, and the high prices! It's just a lot of poo. You can find "designer dogs" of every size, shape, color and personality as close as your local humane society or rescue service and at a far more reasonable cost. Why not visit there first and save a life? You'll be glad you did! Does this mean that all producers of "Poos" and other mixes are unscrupulous and deceitful? No, many of them are simply ignorant of responsible breeding practices and unaware of what they're really doing. Both the deceitful and the ignorant, though, prey on the ignorance of the public - as long as people don't know the truth about these exotic-sounding dogs, they'll continue to buy them and support this unethical and unnecessary practice. Much Ado About Poo Are Cock-a-poo's, Peke-a-poo's and the other poo dogs real breeds? "Rare!" "Exotic!" "One of a Kind!" "Luxury on a Leash!" proclaim the ads in the Sunday pet classifieds. "Get the best of both worlds!" "Registered New Breed!" "Special Price - this week only - $599!" Curious? Who wouldn't be? Almost everyone wants something different, unusual, something new and exciting, something no one else has. What are these unique, exciting dogs with funny names and high price tags? Meet the Poo's: Yorkie-Poo's, Cock-a-Poo's, Lhasa-Poo's, Beag-A-Poo's, Peke-A-Poo's, Pom-Poo's, Doxie-Poo's and Terri-Poo's, just to name a few. Meet their cousins, the Cocker-Chons and the Bi-Tzu. This large and incredibly diverse family of dogs includes such "breeds" as Cock-a-Shels and Malt-oodles; everything from the imposing Rott-a-Dor down to the diminutive Peke-A-Pom and Yorki-Huahua. What do these dogs with the whimsical breed names have in common? The fact that they're not real breeds at all. They're mongrels - mixed breeds - masquerading as something glamorous, valuable and highly desirable. Yorkie-Poo's are simply Yorkshire Terriers crossed with Poodles. A Bi-Tzu is a Bichon Frise/Shih Tzu mix. Cock-a-Shels result when Cocker Spaniels are bred to Shelties (Shetland Sheepdogs) and Rott-A-Dors occur when a Rottweiler and a Labrador Retriever join forces. New breeds? Hardly. Behind the hype and the clever name is a common mutt. Have you ever looked at a Basset Hound and a Poodle or a similarly mis-matched combination and wondered what the puppies would look like if the two were mated? Lots of us have. It makes for an entertaining exercise in imagination. But the people deliberately breeding "Peke-A-Poms" (a cross between a Pekingese and a Pomeranian) and other such fanciful mixes have taken the "what if?" game a step further. Rather than playing games with their imagination, they're playing games with living creatures, charging big prices for their results and telling some pretty tall tales to justify it. Vicki DeGruy, Thunderhill Chow Chows & Wisconsin Chow Rescue http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/thunderhill I do breed rescue as well as some breeding |
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