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Demodectic Mange
I've read this link:
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/demodectic_mange.html ....but I want some verification. Is localised demodectic mange at *all* contagious to other dogs? One of the dogs in my daycare has it, and has had it for about a month (unknown to her owner). Is Revolution an appropriate treatment? -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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Demodectic Mange
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Rocky wrote: ...but I want some verification. Is localised demodectic mange at *all* contagious to other dogs? According to my dermatologist at Cornell, it's not at all contagious. However, in adult dogs it's usually a secondary ailment caused by some compromise of the immune system (the dermatologist said in 85% of cases). Is Revolution an appropriate treatment? No. Cornell prescribed Ivermectin for Image, and when I was looking into it early in the process the other medications were Mitaban dips and daily (!!) doses of Interceptor. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Hollywood was so out of touch with what seemed like reality that it was, in fact, entirely in touch with the new political ethos in Washington -- Matt Bai |
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Demodectic Mange
"Rocky" wrote in message : I've read this link: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/demodectic_mange.html ...but I want some verification. Is localised demodectic mange at *all* contagious to other dogs? If it is demodex, it isn't. One of the dogs in my daycare has it, and has had it for about a month (unknown to her owner). Is Revolution an appropriate treatment? How old is the dog? A lot of younger dogs that have it seem to beat it naturally as they grow and mature, with no intervention. In general though, Melinda is right. There is quite possibly an underlying cause that is stressing the immune system, something the vet should look into. The last time Khan contracted Sarcoptic Mange, we used Revolution to treat it. As far as I know, it isn't used to treat Demodex, although it is an Ivermectin derivative, and may well work. I'd suggest contacting the manufacturer to see if it is a recommended use. Suja |
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Demodectic Mange
"Suja" said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
How old is the dog? Just turned 6 months - it's one of the RRs that I've posted pictures of. A lot of younger dogs that have it seem to beat it naturally as they grow and mature, with no intervention. In general though, Melinda is right. There is quite possibly an underlying cause that is stressing the immune system, something the vet should look into. The dog underwent some fairly major surgery when she was 4 months old, I can't exactly remember what it was called - she had a couple of fairly major bone growths on her face. You can see one of the growths in this pictu http://www.rocky-dog.com/Daycare/Zoe'n'DogBiteyface3.jpg The vet identified the stress of the operation and recuperation as the underlying cause for the flare-up of the mange. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog. |
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Demodectic Mange
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Rocky wrote: I see that Revolution is used as part of the treatment for sarcoptic mange and that Ivermectin is preferred for demodectic mange. This article says that some vets won't use ivermectin, though: http://animalpetdoctor.homestead.com/mange.html Ivermectin has been known to be toxic to Collies but the folks at Cornell said that they'd never seen it in any other breeds. They did describe what the symptoms would be, just in case. There's a screening test for the gene associated with it: http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/announceme.../ownerinfo.asp -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Hollywood was so out of touch with what seemed like reality that it was, in fact, entirely in touch with the new political ethos in Washington -- Matt Bai |
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Demodectic Mange
"Rocky" wrote in message ... I see that Revolution is used as part of the treatment for sarcoptic mange ..............Sigh. I guess they always want to try something new. LymeDip can take care of sarcoptic (but not demodetic) mange. It's virtually non-toxic. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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Demodectic Mange
Rocky wrote:
The dog underwent some fairly major surgery when she was 4 months old, I can't exactly remember what it was called - she had a couple of fairly major bone growths on her face. You can see one of the growths in this pictu http://www.rocky-dog.com/Daycare/Zoe'n'DogBiteyface3.jpg The vet identified the stress of the operation and recuperation as the underlying cause for the flare-up of the mange. Demodectic mange is basically an immune system not responding correctly. It's considered to be genetic--so if I had a puppy who got demodex for any reason, I'd have to think very hard about breeding that puppy. But yes, stress can bring it on especially immune system stress. It's not contagious. If it's localized (around head and face) it will probably just run its course. There's an old fashioned ointment I used to use that worked very well, called Goodwinol. I did dip one dog and it almost killed her--she literally lost consciousness for about 5 hours after. Thanks no, never again, though we found later that this dog had severe liver problems (portosystemic shunt). So unless it spreads beyond the face/front legs I'd use goodwinol or leave it alone, but if it goes generalized, it can be a real problem and at that point the big guns should be brought out. But it won't endanger any of your dogs. The demodex mite lives on all dogs, it's just that when the affected dog has a poor immune system, the mites might be able to breed uncontrollably, which causes hair loss. |
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"buglady" wrote in message : .............Sigh. I guess they always want to try something new. LymeDip can take care of sarcoptic (but not demodetic) mange. It's virtually non-toxic. We used Revolution for a couple of reasons. Neither dog likes going to the vet, and it was easier, less time consuming, and less expensive than going to the vet for Ivermectin shots. While Pan is easy enough to bathe, Khan is phobic about baths, and getting him bathed is a MAJOR production that takes at least a couple of hours. Just to give you an idea, I have to bring two wheelbarrows into the garage, fill them with warm water, carrying buckets of water from the kitchen sink, close the garage door, bring him in, close the door to the house before he realizes what is going on and tries to bulldoze his way back in, and hold him with one hand while I bathe him with the other. Afterwards, I have to pull my car out and clean all the water out of the garage. This BTW, is by far the *easiest* way to bathe him. He won't go into any bathrooms voluntarily. Even if I got him into one, I'd have to pick him up and put him inside the tub (our shower has a door that swings open, and he can just nudge it open, run out into the bathroom and shake muddy water all over - why yes, it's happened), which is something I am physically not capable of doing. He can be bathed outside, but it requires 2 people - one to hold him down, and the other to bathe him. He needs to be held down because he is petrified of the hose (even if you're just watering the plants, or picking it up to move it so you won't mow over it), and will try to buck out of his collar or harness. His hose phobia is an improvement, BTW. He used to be afraid of a hose that's just lying there, even if no human were near it. Suja |
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Demodectic Mange
"Rocky" wrote in message
... I've read this link: http://www.marvistavet.com/html/demodectic_mange.html ...but I want some verification. Is localised demodectic mange at *all* contagious to other dogs? One of the dogs in my daycare has it, and has had it for about a month (unknown to her owner). Is Revolution an appropriate treatment? As others have posted, no, its not contagious. If the vet can't identify the cause you might want to recommend the owner ask about a thyroid panel. I've found that in white Boxers demodex can happen frequently and, anecdotally at least, the majority of cases were presented in dogs who turned out to be hypothyroid. -- Tara |
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