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German Sheperd Hips
I have just adopted a German Shepherd. It seems to have difficulty getting
up with its hind legs. He walks totally normally. He can run too. But when he first gets up it seems difficult. Any thoughts? Is this early arthritis? The dog is 6-8years. Does he need aspirin? I hope this isn't serious. -Pete |
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.. . I have just adopted a German Shepherd. It seems to have difficulty getting up with its hind legs. He walks totally normally. He can run too. But when he first gets up it seems difficult. Any thoughts? Is this early arthritis? The dog is 6-8years. Does he need aspirin? I hope this isn't serious. It could be arthritis, dysplasia, knees, a pulled muscle, any number of things. Only a vet can find out via x-ray so get that done asap. -- Tara |
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on 2005-11-18 at 20:19 wrote:
These dogs are known for having hip displasia (spelling?). they may be "known for" it, but i'm not sure the reputation is justified. according to OFA, GSDs rank 37th for hip dysplasia. at 19% dysplasia rate, it could be better, but it could also be a hell of a lot worse (e.g. Bulldogs, at 74.8%). http://www.offa.org/hipstatbreed.html -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ |
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"shelly" wrote in message
These dogs are known for having hip displasia (spelling?). they may be "known for" it, but i'm not sure the reputation is justified. according to OFA, GSDs rank 37th for hip dysplasia. at 19% dysplasia rate, it could be better, but it could also be a hell of a lot worse (e.g. Bulldogs, at 74.8%). Unfortunately, OFA's stats only apply to those dogs whose breeders are concientious enough to actually submit for evaluation. There are so many more "breeders" that don't submit to OFA, that the 19% is really irrelevant, especially as related to a dog from an unknown background. I agree with the poster who advised to have the dog checked by a vet and x-rayed to see what the problem is. Ruth, Greta, Woody & Thelma |
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on 2005-11-19 at 07:50 wrote:
Unfortunately, OFA's stats only apply to those dogs whose breeders are concientious enough to actually submit for evaluation. it's not perfect, but i think it still gives a general idea of where a breed falls in relation to other breeds. what it cannot do is tell an owner whether or not his particular dog might have HD. for that, he needs to take his dog to the vet. There are so many more "breeders" that don't submit to OFA, that the 19% is really irrelevant, especially as related to a dog from an unknown background. of course, but i wasn't implying that there was any connection between OFA stats and this individual dog's chance of having HD. i was *only* addressing the GSDs "are known for having hip displasia [sic]" comment. I agree with the poster who advised to have the dog checked by a vet and x-rayed to see what the problem is. i wasn't suggesting that owner *not* have the dog seen by a vet. there's clearly something wrong, and a trip to the vet is the only way to find out what that something is. -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ |
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"shelly" wrote in message
arble.net... it's not perfect, but i think it still gives a general idea of where a breed falls in relation to other breeds. what it cannot do is tell an owner whether or not his particular dog might have HD. for that, he needs to take his dog to the vet. I found it really interesting that the Norfolk Terrier is #16 and the Norwich Terrier is #56. I tend to think of them as being basically the same dog except for the ears. That they are at the very least closely related. And yet such a difference in OFA numbers. What the heck happened through the years? And there is no sign of the other small, wiry type terriers except for the Border Terrier #123. I know there is a push in the BT community to get their dogs tested - which is probably why they're on the list at all. Smooth Fox is in there but the Westies, Cairns, Welsh, etc are all MIA. And I know that the beagle number is much lower than it should be. Beagle breeders are notorious for hiding their heads in the sand when it comes to any health testing. Glaucoma, epilepsy, HD? Nope, not in MY lines. . i was *only* addressing the GSDs "are known for having hip displasia [sic]" comment. I think most of this come from the hock-walk. And then everyone thinks HD. I've had otherwise dog-intelligent people tell me that the walk is proof of HD. i wasn't suggesting that owner *not* have the dog seen by a vet. there's clearly something wrong, and a trip to the vet is the only way to find out what that something is. Absolutely. There is clearly something wrong. It may be HD but it's very likely that it's something else entirely. Even in breeds with HD, arthritis, tendonitis or a pulled muscle are all more likely. ~~Judy |
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on 2005-11-19 at 09:04 wrote:
What the heck happened through the years? it's weird, but it's impossible to tell why there's a discrepancy, especially since the sample size is *so* small. And there is no sign of the other small, wiry type terriers except for the Border Terrier #123. that's because small, wiry type terriers are Teh Cute, so they don't need to be tested. seriously, i expect it's a matter of those breeds being big-time mill breeds. they're attractive and in high demand. from what i can tell, it's damned hard to find people responsibly breeding small dogs. And I know that the beagle number is much lower than it should be. Beagle breeders are notorious for hiding their heads in the sand when it comes to any health testing. Glaucoma, epilepsy, HD? Nope, not in MY lines. dem dawgs kin hunt, right? den dey cain't be nuthin' wrong with 'em. HTH! I think most of this come from the hock-walk. And then everyone thinks HD. I've had otherwise dog-intelligent people tell me that the walk is proof of HD. yep. and, that's what i assume is going on in this case. Absolutely. There is clearly something wrong. It may be HD but it's very likely that it's something else entirely. Even in breeds with HD, arthritis, tendonitis or a pulled muscle are all more likely. especially *if* it's something that recently developed in a 6-8 year old dog. (the OP only recently got the dog, so he's unlikely to know whether it's a new condition or an existing one.) even if the dog has HD, i'd wonder if there was another complication, like arthritis or soft tissue damage, or even something like a tumor. -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/ |
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Judy wrote:
"shelly" wrote in message arble.net... I found it really interesting that the Norfolk Terrier is #16 and the Norwich Terrier is #56. I tend to think of them as being basically the same dog except for the ears. That they are at the very least closely related. And yet such a difference in OFA numbers. What the heck happened through the years? With a breed with relatively small numbers, it could be as simple as one popular dog who had HD being used too much. And there is no sign of the other small, wiry type terriers except for the Border Terrier #123. I know there is a push in the BT community to get their dogs tested - which is probably why they're on the list at all. Smooth Fox is in there but the Westies, Cairns, Welsh, etc are all MIA. BTs are now a CHIC breed as well: http://www.caninehealthinfo.org/brdreqs.html?breed=BRT, and the dog pictured is the irresistable Briar, who looks very sweet but is really hell on wheels. And I know that the beagle number is much lower than it should be. Beagle breeders are notorious for hiding their heads in the sand when it comes to any health testing. Glaucoma, epilepsy, HD? Nope, not in MY lines. Well there are just HUGE numbers of beagles in general. The number of show breeders is just tiny compared to the number of people who breed beagles--not just "country" people who run rabbits, but there are huge colonies of beagles bred and used for research. FWIW, the head of the OFA, Eddie Dziuk, is a beagle man. |
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Thanks to all who replied to the thread.
The dog will see the vet next week! -Pete |
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