Jack "The Unpalatable Barbarian" Morrison wrote:


"I presented clear, accurate and precise information on how a
preservative that contains the known neurotoxin, ethylmercury, exists
in the flu and other vaccines at a level that exceeds several safety
limits as set forth by more than one Federal agency."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/inde...geofautism.xml

And don't forget that many canine vaccines *still* contain thimerosal,
too.

Be careful out there.


Unfortunately there's no absolutely safe anything any more. In this
case, with a worldwide outbreak of bird flu imminent and flu viruses
increasing in virulence in general, getting the flu vaccine is pretty
darn important.

"Robin Nuttall" wrote in message
news:KlFgf.350768$084.149707@attbi_s22...
Jack "The Unpalatable Barbarian" Morrison wrote:


"I presented clear, accurate and precise information on how a
preservative that contains the known neurotoxin, ethylmercury, exists
in the flu and other vaccines at a level that exceeds several safety
limits as set forth by more than one Federal agency."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/inde...geofautism.xml

And don't forget that many canine vaccines *still* contain thimerosal,
too.

Be careful out there.


Unfortunately there's no absolutely safe anything any more. In this case,
with a worldwide outbreak of bird flu imminent and flu viruses increasing
in virulence in general, getting the flu vaccine is pretty darn important.

Don't believe all of the media hype. The only way you can get bird flu is
from contact with an infected bird. The virus would have to mutate before
it would be transmissable from person to person. Noone knows what they odds
on that are, or if, once the virus mutated, it would even be as deadly.

If you are a healthy adult, there is no reason to get a flu shot. In fact,
I would argue that it would indeed be selfish to get a flu shot. The flu is
not deadly to healthy adults, but it can be quite fatal to the elderly, the
very young, or the immune suppressed. Flu shots are in limited supply.
Save them for those that really need them. I would feel guilty as hell
getting a flu shot knowing that someone else that really needed it, might
not get one because I did.

If you still feel that you must have some flu protection, get the nasal
spray vaccine. It is not in short supply, and the elderly, young and immune
suppressed can't take it.

In article riNgf.573209$_o.48306@attbi_s71,
Robin wrote:
Don't believe all of the media hype.

Well, don't misinterpret all of the media hype, anyway. One
of the lessons of Y2K is some level of penetration into the
popular culture is probably necessary in order to motivate
people to work to prevent a basically kind of geeky event.
It's not that it was necessary for people starting to worry
about planes dropping out of the sky, but rather that the
level of publicity required to motivate people to do some
unbelievably tedious work inevitably led to distortions
about planes dropping out of the sky. Same thing with the
bird flu, I think. I'm glad it's getting press and I'm glad
that the developed world is starting to prepare against the
possibility of a pandemic at some point in the future.

I don't get flu shots myself - not because I believe the
anti-science hysterics and Lysenkoists on the right, but
because I'm in my 40s and above-average healthy and I think
the risk of getting deathly ill from the flu is pretty
minimal in my case. I'm insisting on my mother getting one,
though.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
...
In article riNgf.573209$_o.48306@attbi_s71,
Robin wrote:
Don't believe all of the media hype.

Well, don't misinterpret all of the media hype, anyway. One
of the lessons of Y2K is some level of penetration into the
popular culture is probably necessary in order to motivate
people to work to prevent a basically kind of geeky event.
It's not that it was necessary for people starting to worry
about planes dropping out of the sky, but rather that the
level of publicity required to motivate people to do some
unbelievably tedious work inevitably led to distortions
about planes dropping out of the sky. Same thing with the
bird flu, I think. I'm glad it's getting press and I'm glad
that the developed world is starting to prepare against the
possibility of a pandemic at some point in the future.

I don't get flu shots myself - not because I believe the
anti-science hysterics and Lysenkoists on the right, but
because I'm in my 40s and above-average healthy and I think
the risk of getting deathly ill from the flu is pretty
minimal in my case. I'm insisting on my mother getting one,
though.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

I hope I didn't sound rude, but I do work in a nursing home, and some years
it is several weeks into the flu season before we get enough vaccine for all
of our folks. Also we have to keep it on hand for new admits. It does make
me feel more strongly about healthy adults not getting something that others
need more. The media certainly doesn't help the situation.

Like I said any healthy adults that do feel they need flu prevention should
ask their doctors about the nasal spray. People at risk can't take it
because it is based on a live virus, but it's fine for the rest of us.

In article LZOgf.351897$084.87527@attbi_s22,
Robin wrote:
I hope I didn't sound rude, but I do work in a nursing home, and some years
it is several weeks into the flu season before we get enough vaccine for all
of our folks. Also we have to keep it on hand for new admits. It does make
me feel more strongly about healthy adults not getting something that others
need more.

I agree with your concerns.

The media certainly doesn't help the situation.

On balance, I think that's impossible to know. I have
friends who turned their homes into survivalist compounds in
fear of Y2K, but I also know of a lot of serious bugs that
were caught and fixed in an awful lot of software.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community