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Old February 27th 04, 10:36 PM
Gerry Schwartz
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I've been following the recent news stories about PCRM leaking the
documents about Dr. Atkins. While Googling PCRM stories, I came across
a website alleging that PCRM board member, Dr. Henry Heimlich, of the
maneuver, has been engaged in various frauds. Has anybody seen any
news stories about this? Here's the URL:

http://complaint.active.ws

I'm posting this here because there's information about Dr. Heimlich's
own history of using laboratory dogs, which he appears to have
misrepresented in a speech to an animal rights group:

http://medicalfraud.freespeechsite.c...malRights.html

The website also alleges that Dr. Heimlich only got involved in animal
rights as a result of a proposed 1986 research trial at the University
of Florida which was going to study the Heimlich maneuver for
drowning. At the time, Dr. Heimlich himself stated he wanted to cancel
the proposed study. Then aggressive protests by Florida PETA activists
did indeed help to cancel it:

http://medicalfraud.freespeechsite.c..._UF_Study.html

I can't vouch for this material and I have no axe to grind for or
against PCRM or Dr. Heimlich, but it's pretty fascinating stuff. Dr.
Heimlich criticized the proposed 1986 study because it used lab dogs,
but he had used lab dogs himself in a 1982 study. Was Dr. Heimlich
trying to shut down the study because it would disprove his drowning
theory? Were the PETA protesters being manipulated by him for his own
purposes?

Does anybody have any more facts about about Dr. Heimlich's
involvement in the animal rights movement? From PCRM's website, I see
that Dr. Heimlich made a video for PCRM and is a member of their
board. But has Dr. Heimlich publicly challenged any other specific
research studies using animals or did he just challenge this one that
might have disproven his drowning theory?

GERRY

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Old February 28th 04, 11:06 AM
Zakhar
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"Gerry Schwartz" wrote in message
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I've been following the recent news stories about PCRM leaking the
documents about Dr. Atkins. While Googling PCRM stories, I came across
a website alleging that PCRM board member, Dr. Henry Heimlich, of the
maneuver, has been engaged in various frauds. Has anybody seen any
news stories about this? Here's the URL:

http://complaint.active.ws


Would you mind checking your links? They don't work for me.


I'm posting this here because there's information about Dr. Heimlich's
own history of using laboratory dogs, which he appears to have
misrepresented in a speech to an animal rights group:

http://medicalfraud.freespeechsite.c...malRights.html

The website also alleges that Dr. Heimlich only got involved in animal
rights as a result of a proposed 1986 research trial at the University
of Florida which was going to study the Heimlich maneuver for
drowning. At the time, Dr. Heimlich himself stated he wanted to cancel
the proposed study. Then aggressive protests by Florida PETA activists
did indeed help to cancel it:

http://medicalfraud.freespeechsite.c..._UF_Study.html

I can't vouch for this material and I have no axe to grind for or
against PCRM or Dr. Heimlich, but it's pretty fascinating stuff. Dr.
Heimlich criticized the proposed 1986 study because it used lab dogs,
but he had used lab dogs himself in a 1982 study. Was Dr. Heimlich
trying to shut down the study because it would disprove his drowning
theory? Were the PETA protesters being manipulated by him for his own
purposes?


The only comment I'd like to make is that PETA protesters would want an end
to the study once alerted for the animals sakes. Their desired outcome would
be to end the study, so I don't think their were manipulated in the literal
sense. I acknowledge they may not have been alerted to the study if it
wasn't for Heimlich.

Can we learn anything from this case that will reduce animal
experimentation?


Does anybody have any more facts about about Dr. Heimlich's
involvement in the animal rights movement? From PCRM's website, I see
that Dr. Heimlich made a video for PCRM and is a member of their
board. But has Dr. Heimlich publicly challenged any other specific
research studies using animals or did he just challenge this one that
might have disproven his drowning theory?

GERRY

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