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or has had a negative encounter with the food!


http://www.thepetlawyer.com/Dogfoodpage.html

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Gabby's Mom wrote:
Please forward the link below to anyone you know who may be interested
or has had a negative encounter with the food!

I can't imagine how it is that lawyers have such a crappy
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Didn't take long, eh?

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:45:41 -0800, Gabby's Mom wrote:

Please forward the link below to anyone you know who may be interested or
has had a negative encounter with the food!

http://www.thepetlawyer.com/Dogfoodpage.html

If there is any evidence to suggest Diamond Foods knowingly distributed
tainted food or did not take adequate measure to guard against same I
wholeheartedly agree that they should be sued. But I have not seem any
evidence of that nature.

Just because someone is a lawyer does not mean they can't be an
opportunistic scumbag. It is easy to take advantage of someone's grief.
I live with four dogs. I will be very sad when any of them die. I won't
place the blame for their death with an economically deep pocket company
without good reason.

"Kurtis D. Rader" wrote in message
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If there is any evidence to suggest Diamond Foods knowingly distributed
tainted food or did not take adequate measure to guard against same I
wholeheartedly agree that they should be sued. But I have not seem any
evidence of that nature.

........Me neither. And if it had been a small startup company, they might
not have been able to catch the problem in time, afford extensive testing
and would probably go bankrupt and just say *so sorry.*

I will be very sad when any of them die. I won't
place the blame for their death with an economically deep pocket company
without good reason.

........Well, I've been thinking that people probably will want to sue. Like
you I can't imagine why. If the dog food had caused death or illness of one
of my pets, I'd want them to pay all my vet expenses. Other than that
there's no dollar value that will replace my pet. Pain and suffering?
Please......we're human, and it's part of life. The only person in this
whole horrible scenario that I would applaud suing is someone who lost their
service dog. It's a huge loss for a person depending on canine help and
it's not so easy to just go out and get another dog the next day.

buglady
take out the dog before replying

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:20:13 GMT, "buglady"
wrote:


.......Well, I've been thinking that people probably will want to sue. Like
you I can't imagine why. If the dog food had caused death or illness of one
of my pets, I'd want them to pay all my vet expenses. Other than that
there's no dollar value that will replace my pet. Pain and suffering?
Please......we're human, and it's part of life. The only person in this
whole horrible scenario that I would applaud suing is someone who lost their
service dog. It's a huge loss for a person depending on canine help and
it's not so easy to just go out and get another dog the next day.

People can sue if they choose, but in most jurisdictions dogs are
considered property, and all they'll collect is reimbursement for vet
bills and the money value of the dog. For someone with a service dog,
of course, that would/should mean the person will have the economic
ability to get another service dog, but as you say, that can't be done
the next day. There may be some areas where an owner's emotional
attachment is given some economic value, but AFAIK it's not possible
to collect on an animal's pain and suffering.

Mustang Sally

This was just now on the news here in Kansas City for the first time....
they did say that they will pay any and all vet bills - Isnt that
nice........wonder what they feed thier own pets? They said that they knew
one month prior that the corn was contaminated

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"Tammie" wrote in message
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This was just now on the news here in Kansas City for the first time....
they did say that they will pay any and all vet bills - Isnt that
nice........
........It's the responsible thing to do. I think they're doing all they can
at the moment. They recalled tons of food that wasn't even contaminated.
In the end it's only 2 lines that had a problem. I see no reason for them
to lie. It would only make things worse for them. If they were a small
company, they could deny, deny, deny, then shut their doors and say, so
sorry, we're bankrupt.
www.diamondpet.com

wonder what they feed thier own pets? They said that they knew
one month prior that the corn was contaminated

........If I were Diamond I'd start suing news organizations. They knew
there was a problem with the 2006 corn CROP (not dog food) because they were
*rejecting* more loads of contaminated corn than usual. Last Nov. they
actually stepped up testing procedures to safeguard the food. I really
don't believe they allowed contaminated corn into the plant on purpose. I
saw one TV news headline that seemed to indicate that they did, but the body
of the report said nothing about it. Basically it was a misleading lie.
Japan rejected a load of corn for human consumption in late Dec. from the US
due to aflatoxin. Do you think that corn was NOT inspected? So it gets
through. If anything this ought to make the USDA/FDA require increased
testing procedures when there are problems with Aspergillus fungus in
certain years.

......I even read a report where a vet said that testing the kibble to find
out if it made your dog sick is difficult because one kibble in a bag can be
toxic and the rest oK and if your dog had already eaten that piece, there's
no way to know. I don't know what that guy was thinking. The components of
kibbled food are ground up, turned into a slurry/paste, then extruded (like
from a pastry tube). There's no way on earth only one kibble in a bag would
be affected as the food is produced in batches and the batches aren't mixed.
And it takes a few weeks of continuous eating to cause death, not just
eating one piece of kibble. There's lots of misinformation out there.

...........I think people just don't understand anything about farming, or
how their food gets into their house. There are testing procedures in
place, but they're not foolproof. .......say I mixed 10 pounds of M&Ms into
a garbage sized truck of corn kernels. Each M&M is only slightly toxic, but
if you ate all the corn with all 10 lbs of M&Ms you'd get really sick and
might even die. Your job is to find out if there are 20 M&Ms per load,
which is the allowed amount in one load of corn. If there were 20, you'd
reject the load of corn. Now how would you go about finding them? How
would you get samples from the load (without dumping it out)? How many
samples would you take? If all the M&Ms ended up in one corner of the truck
you may not find any, even after searching diligently. This is the real
life situation WRT sampling corn for contaminants. And keep in mind that
each procedure costs money, which makes the final product cost go up. How
much are you willing to pay? If you say, well don't buy corn from the SE ,
or destroy all the corn from the SE, then there's a shortage of corn and ALL
dog food companies will be paying more for corn and the cost of the food
will still go up.

This is the real world, not some fantasy world where our food is all
pristine, clean and has no contaminants. The USDA/FDA sets limits for
contaminants. They allow 5 ppm for aflatoxin for humans and much higher for
beef. If your tolerance level is zero, you'd better start working 2 jobs
because that kind of food would be mighty expensive and as scarce as hen's
teeth. .

This is not the first time this has happened - Texas 1998 - different
company - same scenario. The take home lesson is not that Diamond are a
bunch of scum bags, but that there's a problem with some of the corn crop
this year and if your dog food has corn in it, ask your company what they're
doing to safeguard your pet. Ask them where their processing plant for the
food is - if it's in the SE of the US they could be facing the same
situation as processing plants are set up in areas where the components of
the food are grown/raised to save on shipping costs. I would think by this
time though, that all companies might have some extra testing procedures in
place.

FWIW I don't even feed kibble.
buglady
take out the dog before replying

Great post.

One thing to remember - toxins from molds are not restricted to corn.
They can found in rice, wheat or any other grain.