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BettyJean
I have read all your postings from my first post to my " tail between
my legs post" First I want to say I had no idea what kind of forum I was posting on. There are so many dog forums on the internet, I have no idea how I even ended up in this one. I guess I entered an unknown world to me I have been to shows, I love attending them and watching in awe the majestic grace of the German Shepherd in the ring. I have taken back dogs back in the past from owners who could not keep them and found them homes, also have knowledge of animal rescue as a family member of mine has worked for years through a local organization and house's the animals and finds them suitable homes who would other wise be put to sleep. I found my Heidelberg Female on the internet through researching past pedigree papers. Also have purchased G/S through adds in the paper and found very ethical breeder's. This was MY ORIGINAL POSTING. AS I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS POST I LANDED IN AN UNKNOWN WORLD IN THIS FORUM. I would have never disrespected had I known, or used some of the terms I did. Obviously I went back into the postings, forum and realised I put my foot in my mouth after reading this forum and then did appologise...... May I join your group and begin to learn further? You all I am sure seemed to have a good time with my post and I am sure it made you all have a good chuckle or think where did this one come from I do have some serious questions Am I welcomed? BettyJean |
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BettyJean
BettyJean,
This usenet, unmoderated, and if you're tough enough it is a good place to learn. Beth |
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BettyJean
bettyjean wrote:
I have read all your postings from my first post to my " tail between my legs post" First I want to say I had no idea what kind of forum I was posting on. There are so many dog forums on the internet, I have no idea how I even ended up in this one. This isn't a forum. It's usenet news. Unmoderated, and around longer than most email groups (I'm not sure of the heirarchy of usenet to forums/groups with the evolution of the internet, but I believe usenet was here first). I've been monitoring the various rec.pets.dogs groups since 1994, but there are many regular posters who have been here longer than I have. Yes, we can be a very tough crowd. Yes, you can learn here. But we don't tend to sugar coat things and we are seldom politically correct. Those of us left here who have been here lo these many years are far more concerned about dogs than we are about the people who breed them. That's not to say we are animal rights activists or anti-breeding. Far from it. We just think that purposely creating new dog lives is something that should be taken far more seriously than most people, including you, seem to take it. If you are breeding dogs in this world where millions of unwanted dogs are put down each year, you better think about it right hard. You better be thinking that what you produce is really WORTH producing. "Nice Pets" is not enough of a justification to breed. It should be the base of your breeding program, the foundation, but not the house that rises on that foundation. German Shepherds are a breed that has had a particularly hard time. Most of us feel that the American Show Shepherd is a *******ation of what the GSD is supposed to be. Slinky, hock-walking, spooks. I believe one AKC Champion GSD has managed to get a schutzhund title in the past 20 years. That is NOT a good advertisement for temperament in the breed, yet you're producing what you call "show lines." You're also producing them without actually knowing what you mean, because you've never shown dogs yourself. I feel, based on your posts so far, that you are breeding with good intentions but a tremendous amount of ignorance. You'll get a lot of advice here. Some of it will be excellent, some of it will be from the resident nutter and should be trashed right away. But unlike many, many who have come before you, you do seem to be willing to learn. That makes you almost unique. Most people just march off in a self-righteous huff. Truthfully, your very best educational resource for German Shepherds really isn't this group. We can give you tons of solid advice on breeding in general. But I think you need to get to know your own breed a bit better. You should find a schutzhund club near you and go hang out and talk to people. Most are quite friendly. If they're not, dump them and go to another one. You should also join the breed club, and go to www.leerburg.com and www.germanshepherddogs.com. |
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BettyJean
In article ULPxf.693745$x96.435478@attbi_s72,
Robin Nuttall wrote: This isn't a forum. It's usenet news. Unmoderated, and around longer than most email groups (I'm not sure of the heirarchy of usenet to forums/groups with the evolution of the internet, but I believe usenet was here first). There were mailing lists before there was Usenet, but what we now call "the Internet" didn't exist at the time the first Usenet experiments took place. In fact, Usenet was not "internet" technology - it was a bunch of computers calling each other up on the telephone and sending files. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Attacking Bushonomics is too easy, like shooting a lame duck -- Sebastian Mallaby |
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BettyJean
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:34:12 GMT, Robin Nuttall
wrote: This isn't a forum. i'm not sure the term "forum" has a specific designation in this context. they're all generically fora: mail lists, newsgroups, Google's whateverthehellitis groups, etc. -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net I try to apply colors like words that shape poems, like notes that shape music. -- Joan Miro |
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BettyJean
BettyJean:
While this newsgroup can give answers to some questions, for your purposes breed German Shepherds, you would be much better served to seek out groups that are specifically oriented to breeding/owning/training GSDs. My suggestion is to search on yahoo groups for German Shepherds, and additionally join either a regional GSD club and/or your national GSD club for starters (if you are not already a member). As well, seek out and find someone who will mentor you - someone well respected in the GSD community....as they are the experts in their chosen breed. You have a choice here - you can simply breed GSDs, or you can strive to breed the best GSDs. Regards, Deb www.kimberlitebernese.com |
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BettyJean
Hello Betty,
There is a very good, moderated board, specifically geared toward GSDs - please visit www.germanshepherds.com - Once you get to the web site, click the icon for "forums" and you will see threads on a great number of topics. If you keep an open mind, and are willing to learn, it is a wonderful source of information. There are areas devoted to breeding, Schutzhund, health, seniors, puppies, training - you name it and it probably has a category. I also invite you to visit the areas devoted to Urgent Rescue of GSDs and Rescue of GSDs. After a couple of visits, you will realize why we are so passionate about our cause. Yours in GSDs and rescue, Lea www.shepherdrescue.org |
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BettyJean
On 13 Jan 2006 06:07:08 -0800 bettyjean whittled these words:
May I join your group and begin to learn further? You all I am sure seemed to have a good time with my post and I am sure it made you all have a good chuckle or think where did this one come from I do have some serious questions Am I welcomed? BettyJean Pretty much anyone who has an open mind is welcome. Most of us got an abrupt awakening, but I wouldn't change the knoweldge I've gained for anything. That's why I'm still here. And while I generally prefer the diplomatic approach over the years I've learned that there is great value in passion. It tends to get people's attention. -- Diane Blackman There is no moral victory in proclaiming to abhor violence while preaching with violent words. http://dog-play.com/ http://dogplayshops.com/ |
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