I believe my 18 lb. dog ingested 200mg ibuprofen 6 days ago.

Three days ago she started vomiting. The vet gave her ranitidine
(Zantac) plus another drug to coat the stomach lining, gave her IV
fluids, and kept her off food and water.

She continued to vomit occasionally, most recently this morning. The
vet gave her more IV fluids and drugs. A barium X-Ray showed severe
thickening of the stomach wall, which the vet said was consistent with
inflammation from the ibuprofen. Blood tests do not indicate major
bleeding, liver or kidney problems.

It is now three days after her initial symptoms and she does not
appear to be getting better. She seems nauseus, depressed and
listless. I trust my vet but I'm wondering if it's time to seek out
more specialized treatment such as ultrasound and/or endoscopy.

I don't want to put my dog through invasive procedures or have to
spend time in a hospital if it is unnecessary, but at the same time I
want to make sure she gets the care she needs, and don't want to risk
deterioration of her condition.

Is it reasonable to continue drug therapy and wait it out a few more
days? Or do I risk worsening of her condition that could jeopardize
her life?

Any advice would be appreciated.

"DaveR" wrote in message
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I believe my 18 lb. dog ingested 200mg ibuprofen 6 days ago.
snip
It is now three days after her initial symptoms and she does not
appear to be getting better
snip
Is it reasonable to continue drug therapy and wait it out a few more
days? Or do I risk worsening of her condition that could jeopardize
her life?

.......first, try posting in alt.med.veterinary.

.......What does your vet say about the situation? I haven't the faintest
idea how long it takes to recover from iboprofen poisoning. What it does is
strip the mucosal lining off the stomach so the stomach acid attacks the
stomach wall. Is your vet very familiar with treatments for this kind of
thing? If you have any doubts you can cough up 55 bucks and get a consult
with the poison control people:
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...ssionIdr006=n4
lfsbm7r1.app23b

The cost includes as many follow up calls as you need and consultation with
your vet. They may be able to advise you if there's anything else that can
be done and what kind of recovery is still possible. One of the values of
this place is they have a huge database of cases and are up on the latest
treatments plus being available 24/'7, 365 days of the year.

.......good luck with your pup. She may just hang in there and get better.
Please post back.

buglady
take out the dog befor replying

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"DaveR" wrote in message
...
I believe my 18 lb. dog ingested 200mg ibuprofen 6 days ago.
snip
It is now three days after her initial symptoms and she does not
appear to be getting better
snip
Is it reasonable to continue drug therapy and wait it out a few more
days? Or do I risk worsening of her condition that could jeopardize
her life?

......first, try posting in alt.med.veterinary.

......What does your vet say about the situation? I haven't the
faintest idea how long it takes to recover from iboprofen poisoning.
What it does is strip the mucosal lining off the stomach so the
stomach acid attacks the stomach wall. Is your vet very familiar
with treatments for this kind of thing? If you have any doubts you
can cough up 55 bucks and get a consult with the poison control
people:
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...ervSessionIdr0
06=n4 lfsbm7r1.app23b

The cost includes as many follow up calls as you need and consultation
with your vet. They may be able to advise you if there's anything
else that can be done and what kind of recovery is still possible.
One of the values of this place is they have a huge database of cases
and are up on the latest treatments plus being available 24/'7, 365
days of the year.

......good luck with your pup. She may just hang in there and get
better. Please post back.

buglady
take out the dog befor replying




I agree with this. I had a dog that stripped the mucosal lining from his
stomach, and the result was immediate vomiting of said lining.

It took him two years recovery, with the aide of Prilosec, reglan,
Carafate (which provided him with the most immediate relief), many small
meals which kept buffer in his stomach to keep stomach acids from
continually irritating his lining. He ate a small bit every two hours
around the clock for 2 years. AND a diet change was in order. But this
was for an extreme case where there was actual mucosal lining stripping.
The dog was never right after that, and never recovered a normal life,
but he had a good life for his final two years, dying at 14 1/2.

His condition was "officially diagnosed" by a specialist who did an
endoscopy. During the endoscopy procedure, the Specialist cleaned out a
lot of blood that was continuing to eat out the stomach lining.
The dog had several additional endoscopies and cleanings, which helped in
his recovery.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:11:52 -0500, DaveR
wrote:

I believe my 18 lb. dog ingested 200mg ibuprofen 6 days ago.

Three days ago she started vomiting. The vet gave her ranitidine
(Zantac) plus another drug to coat the stomach lining, gave her IV
fluids, and kept her off food and water.

She continued to vomit occasionally, most recently this morning. The
vet gave her more IV fluids and drugs. A barium X-Ray showed severe
thickening of the stomach wall, which the vet said was consistent with
inflammation from the ibuprofen. Blood tests do not indicate major
bleeding, liver or kidney problems.

It is now three days after her initial symptoms and she does not
appear to be getting better. She seems nauseus, depressed and
listless. I trust my vet but I'm wondering if it's time to seek out
more specialized treatment such as ultrasound and/or endoscopy.

I don't want to put my dog through invasive procedures or have to
spend time in a hospital if it is unnecessary, but at the same time I
want to make sure she gets the care she needs, and don't want to risk
deterioration of her condition.

Is it reasonable to continue drug therapy and wait it out a few more
days? Or do I risk worsening of her condition that could jeopardize
her life?

Any advice would be appreciated.

One of my dogs ate ibuprofen several years ago, and the treatment was
as you describe, except that they also pumped his stomach (I
discovered what he'd eaten immediately and took him right to the vet).
I don't think that ultrasound or endoscopy would be helpful in this
case. You said she ate the ibuprofen 6 days ago and showed symptoms 3
days ago. What happened in the 3 days between when she ate the pill
and started vomiting? If she didn't receive treatment right away, the
likelihood of damage to her stomach and kidneys is higher and her
recovery is likely to be more prolonged.

Mustang Sally

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:49:15 -0500, sighthounds & siberians
wrote:


One of my dogs ate ibuprofen several years ago, and the treatment was
as you describe, except that they also pumped his stomach (I
discovered what he'd eaten immediately and took him right to the vet).
I don't think that ultrasound or endoscopy would be helpful in this
case. You said she ate the ibuprofen 6 days ago and showed symptoms 3
days ago. What happened in the 3 days between when she ate the pill
and started vomiting? If she didn't receive treatment right away, the
likelihood of damage to her stomach and kidneys is higher and her
recovery is likely to be more prolonged.

In those three days she seemed perfectly normal. There were no
symptoms at all and her appetite was fine.

I'm a bit concerned that maybe it's not just the iboprofen, that she
ate something else that caused distress. Or, that she ingested
something that normally would pass through but caused a problem
because her stomach was weakened by the ibuprofen. But the X-Ray
didn't show any foreign objects, just severe inflammation of the
stomach wall.

Since the blood tests show no kidney or liver damage, and her white
blood cell count is not rising, I'm inclined to just give her time to
heal and not put her through invasive tests or a hospital stay.
Nevertheless it is difficult to see her this way and be helpless to do
anything for her...

Thanks very much for your reply.

On 26 Jan 2006 10:35:30 -0800,
wrote:

Was your dog SICK, daver? HOWE COME would you be givin him medications?

He accidentally took the ibuprofen.

It's HUGELY unlikely a single dose of 200mg will HURT your doggy.

Really? Toxicity can occur at 25mg/kg. That's what she ate.

According to published data below, there's more that should be done
for toxic reactions to ibuprofen, such as charcoal etc.

Agreed but unfortunately this needed to be done as soon as she
ingested it, which I now regret.

Good. Are you certain she only had WON tablet?

I can't be absolutely certain but I'm pretty sure. I believe the other
tablet I had in my pocket is accounted for.

Then HOWE COME did you GIVE her ibuprofen

I wouldn't give my dog ibuprofen on purpose. It was an accident.

and she snatched it up an ran off with it despite you screamin "NO!"
an tryin to get it back JUST LIKE HOWE that little dog

Yada yada yada ... yeah we know I'm a terrible dog owner and don't
train her well. That's besides the point right now.

Your dog's condition likely has NUTHIN to do with the single dose of
ibuprofen.

Yeah, says you. My dog has not had anywhere close to these symptoms
before. Go ahead and blame it on "MIShandling" or all your other
cockeyed theories, whizz. My dog is ill and I'm trying to help her.
But why should you care.

In article ,
DaveR wrote:
Really? Toxicity can occur at 25mg/kg. That's what she ate.

Jerry routinely gives dangerously incorrect veterinary
advice.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that.
-- John Stuart Mill

In article ,
says...
On 26 Jan 2006 10:35:30 -0800,



DaveR,

I hope your dog gets better real soon. I have no good advice on that
note. However, If I were you I'd filter Jerry and all his multiple
personalities. He has nothing to say that is worth reading. It will
make this a much nicer place.

jw