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Old February 4th 06, 12:36 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Can someone give me the 411 on choke chains?

I've always thought that you threaded one ring through the other to
form a loop then attached a leash. Simple enough. But all the chains
in pet stores around here have the same sized rings on both ends of the
chain so there's no way to pass one through the other to form the loop.
What am I missing? How does a choke chain work when both rings are
the same size?

TIA,

Neal B.
Richmond, VA

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Old February 4th 06, 12:44 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Howdy Neal,
Run the chain down through one of the rings.

Frank X. Morris http://community.webtv.net/Sulkhalil/ChimeandFriends

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Old February 4th 06, 01:32 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Seems like having the chain run through the ring twice would interfere
with the proper tightening/release of the chain, but I'll give it a
try.

Thanks everyone.

Neal

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Old February 4th 06, 01:32 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Janet B" wrote in message:

You drop the chain backwards through one ring.


And it is worth mentioning that there is a right way and a wrong way to put
it on a dog, and that there is a right way and a wrong way to use it once it
is on the dog.

Suja (who had the same question)


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Old February 4th 06, 03:06 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Seems like having the chain run through the ring twice would interfere
with the proper tightening/release of the chain, but I'll give it a
try.


It's only running once, the other end is where it is attached,
as the first link flips around as you drop the chain through
the ring. I know, clear as mud. Try it, you'll see.

First search I tried got me this, makes it pretty clear:
http://www.101-dog-training-tips.com...g_collar.shtml

The way I was told, as you face your dog to put on the
collar, the loop should form a letter "P".

You may also wish to research prong collars.

HTH,
--Glenn Lyford

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Old February 4th 06, 03:32 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Ah ha! I think a lightbulb is starting to come on. I knew there was
something silly I wasn't getting.

Neal

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Old February 4th 06, 11:23 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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wrote in message
ups.com...
Seems like having the chain run through the ring twice would interfere
with the proper tightening/release of the chain, but I'll give it a
try.

Thanks everyone.

Neal


Remember that they were never designed for use on puppy's under 6 months old
and they are specifically designed for training, not everyday use. They can
cause damage to your dogs vertebrae and windpipe if misused. I would never
put a choke chain around my dog's neck as I feel that the method is
unnecessarily harsh.

If you really feel you must use this method of training, I would strongly
urge you to do so under the supervision of an experienced trainer in a
class. If you are unsure of how to put one together, imo you are certainly
not experienced enough to use one safely or effectively.

I have taught my dog to walk nicely on leash using the stop / start method,
fine tuned so that she knows the actual position I want using a clicker.
Basically, if she pulls forward on the lead, I stand still until the lead
slackens. She has learnt that we get where we're going faster if she walks
nicely beside me.

For the very, very best heel work, its a good idea to start off leash (in a
safe area such as your yard), so that your dog learns the desired walking
position. It takes patience, but it is effective so long as you are
consistent.

Diana
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Old February 4th 06, 11:56 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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if its just a case of wanting to stop pulling and being too lazy to
teach a proper heel then get a halti or gentle leader.
i hate choke chains and i dont work with anyone who still uses them, i
use a stop start method like diane. the moment the pup pulls you stop,
the moment your dog is relaxed and stood by your side you walk on.

choke chains are outdated and barbaric in many cases causing more harm
than good. as has been pointed out to you there is a wrong way and
right way of putting it on, one way the chain relaxes when the dog
stops pulling (which doesnt usually happen) the other way the chain
cant relax because the weight of the chain holds it tight.

the best place for that chain is the bin!

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Old February 4th 06, 12:13 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"dallygirl" wrote in message
oups.com...
if its just a case of wanting to stop pulling and being too lazy to
teach a proper heel then get a halti or gentle leader.


Halti's have been known to cause quite severe neck injuries in dogs too, and
most dogs hate them.

In my own experience, I have had trouble with them rubbing on my dogs nose -
the normal one cut in, the padded one seemed to be fine but started to
create a callous! I use an 'all in one gentle controller' now instead for
walking along busy roads, when my arthritis is bad or when it is icy - for
safety's sake. She is far happier about wearing and it is more effective.
Most dogs eventually learn to pull in a halti anyway (Cin did).
www.gencon-allin1.co.uk

Diana
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http://cindy-incidentally.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk


 




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