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Old February 18th 06, 09:59 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.breeds
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For some reason Caucasian people have decided to translate HALF the
dogs name.
Full Name for the Caucasian is , Kavkazskaia Ovtcharka NOT Caucasian
Ovcharka.

But I guess the correct translations to "shepherds dogs " or sheepdogs,
or dog to graze with sheep_ is too boring_ and keeps them out of the
"rare " area for promotions.
And keeping the full original name is too hard to market.

And some people need to feel special by stating they have Exotic
"Ovcharkas' vs shepherds dogs_ sad.

Which adds to more backyard bred promotions.
Something I have worked for 10 years againest.
We had tons of "rescues" being marketed as "Ovcharkas the rare dogs
without IDing what Ovcharka it is? Like saying you own a bulldog
without naming the type of bulldog you have.

The buying public being stupid would spend top dollar on them and then
they are in need of rescue.

SO half translations for the 1st time in dog breed history is the norm.


Which is why the CAO in this country is known _CORRECTLY as the Central
Asian Shepherd Dog..

It is also known in Central Asia as "shepherds dogs " plus a long list
of other native names __ excluding OVCHARKA !!

Since it was a name IMPROPERLY put on a breed during FORCED Occupation
of their homeland.

Note all USA Purebred dogs are Reg as CAS or imported as SAO . The only
CAO are back yard bred mutts being bred by the Puppymill and reg thru
ARBA.

Now unless Russian Or Slavic is the US Native tongue that I dont know
about.
We are using the correct terms for the CAS.

If not the breed would be known correctly as
[Sredneasiastskaia Ovtcharka]

As per UKC:

http://mail.ukcdogs.com/UKCweb.nsf/8...257044005db4f2


As Per AKC:

http://www.akc.org/breeds/central_as..._dog/index.cfm

Picture is the 3 "Ovcharka breeds

South Russian Sheepdog - AKA SROvcharka
Central Asian Shepherd Dog -AKA CAOvcharka
Caucasian Shepherd dogs - AKA

Note it is a INSULT to the the Origins of the dogs of Central Asia to
use the misnomer for their native breeds stolen by the Russians during
the Cold War.

Ovcharka in Central Asian = MONGREL
based on the GSD's that were left there LOOSE after the Russian pulled
out when the Former USSR fell.

Here is a picture of one of these CROSS bred
GSD X Central Asian.

http://www.centralasianshepherd.homestead.com/jdp.jpg

Shepherds dogs were around LONG before "Ovcharka was a WORD.

But while be politically Correct when you can be backyard breeder
correct.

In addition the Russians changed their standard for the SAO in 2000 6
years ago creating their own version of the breed.

Breeding away from the FCI World Wide standard has had its tol on the
original breed type of Central Asian Shepherd dogs.
To the point one day of the breeds being split down the middle,

Jeannine De Palma
Founder Cassa, Molosser Olympics, Planetmolosser



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Old February 19th 06, 12:23 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.breeds
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Of course,


Had 4 emails with Ny State bred Ovcharka for sale adds spent most of my
weekend trying to help these people, And then got in 2 ovcharka
"rehomes" that have to be placed. Spent more time trying to find out if
they were Caucasian or Central Asian or even South russian dogs based
on the message left on my machine.

Doing rescues and seeing BSL grow daily concerning missnomers can make
you very jaded..

So other than the 1st paragraph wich was too blunt the rest are just
facts not wrapped in chit chat.....

Next time I get in a bunch of issues concerning Rescue I should follow
my own advice and NOT go online for 24 hrs.

Everytime a dog is in a sitution where they can possible be misstreated
or die i often get so angrey......

Well i start Yoga when the weather breaks got my mat and everything
that should help.

Nice to meet you

Jeannine D

 




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