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Old June 14th 06, 01:34 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Does anyone have experience with snake avoidance training in dogs?

Also, here's a great article, it just might save a dogs life so forward it
to anyone you know who keeps dogs. I had a black lab bitten by a timber
rattlesnake.



This article may be reprinted, redistributed, given away, posted on any
website, and freely used as long as it remains in its entirety and as long
as all links and attributions, including this license remains intact. It may
not be sold.

There's a snake in the doghouse!!!
What to do (and not do) when you see a snake

by Chad Minter
http://www.envenomated.com


First, don't kill nonvenomous snakes. Any given area can only support a
fixed number of snakes. If you kill the nonvenomous snakes that leaves a
food supply that could support a population of venomous snakes.

Remember to stay a safe distance from the snake. Snakes usually strike about
1/2 their body length, but they can strike farther. You also don't want to
trip and fall on the snake.

80% of bites occur when someone tries to catch or kill a snake. The safest
thing you can do if you see a snake is to leave it alone. (It's probably
protected by law anyway.)

85% of bites in the United States occur on the hand and forearm. 50% involve
a victim under the age of 20. 70% of bites in the United States involve
alcohol consumption.

If you have a snake in your yard, either call someone trained in their
removal or stand at a safe distance and spray it with a garden hose. Snakes
hate that and will leave quickly.

Step on logs rather than over them. Snakes coil beside logs in the "Reinert
Posture" and might mistake your leg for a predator or prey.

Watch where you put your hands and feet. Do not reach under boards with your
fingers.

Snakes can be handled safely with proper tools and training, but do NOT risk
trying to handle venomous snakes if you have not been professionally
trained. There are things that no website can teach you about how to handle
venomous snakes safely.

You can minimize the appeal of your yard to a snake by 1. cutting the grass,
2. picking up debris, and 3. Controlling rodents. If there is no food or
shelter the snake will soon leave for better hunting grounds.

The safest thing to do if you see a snake is to LEAVE IT ALONE. Most bites
occur when someone is attempting to capture or kill a snake.

Know which snakes are venomous in your area. If you are in the Southeastern
US, take the "hot or not - is it venomous test" at
http://www.envenomated.com

If you are bitten by a snake, seek immediate medical care from a licensed
and experienced physician. According to the Centers for Disease Control, the
first aid for snakebite consists of:

"Do remain calm - Remember that there is an excellent chance for survival,
and in most cases there is plenty of time.

Do suck and squeeze - as much venom as possible directly from the wound.
Venom is protein and can be taken orally with no ill effects.

Do remove jewelry - Swelling can progress rapidly, so rings, watches and
bracelets can be a real problem.

Do mark the time - The progress of symptoms (swelling) is the most obvious
indicator of the amount of envenomation.

Do keep the stricken limb below the heart.

Do get to a hospital as quickly as possible - Anti-venom serum is the only
sure cure for envenomation, and because some people are allergic to horse
serum it should only be given in a fully equipped medical facility.

In case of a Coral bite, do pull the snake off immediately - Corals' fangs
are relatively small, and they have to work at getting venom into the wound.
Therefore, the faster the snake is removed the less venom is injected.

Do attempt to identify the offending snake - Positive identification in the
form of a dead snake is helpful, if convenient, but no time or safety should
be wasted since the symptoms will give medical personnel an accurate
diagnosis.

Do get a tetanus shot.

Don't cut the wound - This almost always causes more damage than it's worth.

Don't use a tourniquet - This isolates the venom in a small area and causes
the digestive enzymes in the venom to concentrate the damage.

Don't use alcohol orally - it speeds the heart and blood flow and reduces
the body's counter-acting ability.

Don't use ice - Freezing the stricken limb has been found to be a major
factor leading to amputation."

Remember, snakes have their place in the ecosystem and were around long
before we arrived. We are the visitors in their garden. Snakes are quite
capable of defending themselves, but are reluctant to do so. If you follow a
few common sense rules you can minimize an already very small risk of
snakebite during your outdoor adventure.

Chad Minter is the author of Venomous Snakes of the Southeast and the
webmaster of http://www.envenomated.com

He spends most of his time finding and photographing venomous snakes in
their native habitat.



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Old June 14th 06, 11:10 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Default snake avoidance training?

I have been told that if you are out in the woods and smell the scent of
cucumbers, it means there is probably copperheads nearby. Meanwhile the
website below, was interesting to read.

--

Best Regards,

Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')

wrote in message
. ..
Does anyone have experience with snake avoidance training in dogs?

Also, here's a great article, it just might save a dogs life so forward it
to anyone you know who keeps dogs. I had a black lab bitten by a timber
rattlesnake.



This article may be reprinted, redistributed, given away, posted on any
website, and freely used as long as it remains in its entirety and as long
as all links and attributions, including this license remains intact. It
may
not be sold.

There's a snake in the doghouse!!!
What to do (and not do) when you see a snake

by Chad Minter
http://www.envenomated.com


First, don't kill nonvenomous snakes. Any given area can only support a
fixed number of snakes. If you kill the nonvenomous snakes that leaves a
food supply that could support a population of venomous snakes.

Remember to stay a safe distance from the snake. Snakes usually strike
about
1/2 their body length, but they can strike farther. You also don't want to
trip and fall on the snake.

80% of bites occur when someone tries to catch or kill a snake. The safest
thing you can do if you see a snake is to leave it alone. (It's probably
protected by law anyway.)

85% of bites in the United States occur on the hand and forearm. 50%
involve
a victim under the age of 20. 70% of bites in the United States involve
alcohol consumption.

If you have a snake in your yard, either call someone trained in their
removal or stand at a safe distance and spray it with a garden hose.
Snakes
hate that and will leave quickly.

Step on logs rather than over them. Snakes coil beside logs in the
"Reinert
Posture" and might mistake your leg for a predator or prey.

Watch where you put your hands and feet. Do not reach under boards with
your
fingers.

Snakes can be handled safely with proper tools and training, but do NOT
risk
trying to handle venomous snakes if you have not been professionally
trained. There are things that no website can teach you about how to
handle
venomous snakes safely.

You can minimize the appeal of your yard to a snake by 1. cutting the
grass,
2. picking up debris, and 3. Controlling rodents. If there is no food or
shelter the snake will soon leave for better hunting grounds.

The safest thing to do if you see a snake is to LEAVE IT ALONE. Most bites
occur when someone is attempting to capture or kill a snake.

Know which snakes are venomous in your area. If you are in the
Southeastern
US, take the "hot or not - is it venomous test" at
http://www.envenomated.com

If you are bitten by a snake, seek immediate medical care from a licensed
and experienced physician. According to the Centers for Disease Control,
the
first aid for snakebite consists of:

"Do remain calm - Remember that there is an excellent chance for survival,
and in most cases there is plenty of time.

Do suck and squeeze - as much venom as possible directly from the wound.
Venom is protein and can be taken orally with no ill effects.

Do remove jewelry - Swelling can progress rapidly, so rings, watches and
bracelets can be a real problem.

Do mark the time - The progress of symptoms (swelling) is the most obvious
indicator of the amount of envenomation.

Do keep the stricken limb below the heart.

Do get to a hospital as quickly as possible - Anti-venom serum is the only
sure cure for envenomation, and because some people are allergic to horse
serum it should only be given in a fully equipped medical facility.

In case of a Coral bite, do pull the snake off immediately - Corals' fangs
are relatively small, and they have to work at getting venom into the
wound.
Therefore, the faster the snake is removed the less venom is injected.

Do attempt to identify the offending snake - Positive identification in
the
form of a dead snake is helpful, if convenient, but no time or safety
should
be wasted since the symptoms will give medical personnel an accurate
diagnosis.

Do get a tetanus shot.

Don't cut the wound - This almost always causes more damage than it's
worth.

Don't use a tourniquet - This isolates the venom in a small area and
causes
the digestive enzymes in the venom to concentrate the damage.

Don't use alcohol orally - it speeds the heart and blood flow and reduces
the body's counter-acting ability.

Don't use ice - Freezing the stricken limb has been found to be a major
factor leading to amputation."

Remember, snakes have their place in the ecosystem and were around long
before we arrived. We are the visitors in their garden. Snakes are quite
capable of defending themselves, but are reluctant to do so. If you follow
a
few common sense rules you can minimize an already very small risk of
snakebite during your outdoor adventure.

Chad Minter is the author of Venomous Snakes of the Southeast and the
webmaster of http://www.envenomated.com

He spends most of his time finding and photographing venomous snakes in
their native habitat.





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Old June 15th 06, 02:22 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"Evelyn Ruut" wrote in message
...
I have been told that if you are out in the woods and smell the scent of
cucumbers, it means there is probably copperheads nearby. Meanwhile the
website below, was interesting to read.


Apparently that's a myth. It's covered on that snake site.

Some snakes release a foul-smelling fluid when handled. Copperheads don't
smell like cucumbers though. Maybe something was blooming in the woods that
smelled like cukes when the weather warmed up enough for the snakes to come
out.

flick 100785


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Old June 15th 06, 11:42 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Default snake avoidance training?


"flick" wrote in message
...
"Evelyn Ruut" wrote in message
...
I have been told that if you are out in the woods and smell the scent of
cucumbers, it means there is probably copperheads nearby. Meanwhile the
website below, was interesting to read.


Apparently that's a myth. It's covered on that snake site.

Some snakes release a foul-smelling fluid when handled. Copperheads don't
smell like cucumbers though. Maybe something was blooming in the woods
that smelled like cukes when the weather warmed up enough for the snakes
to come out.

flick 100785




Could be. I have never been around any copperheads enough to be able to
know first hand if it was so or not. LOL!

My mother told me that one a long time ago.

--

Best Regards,

Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')


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Old June 18th 06, 04:49 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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wrote:
Does anyone have experience with snake avoidance training in dogs?


Yeah, my older gsd was snakeproofed twice by this man:

http://www.garlic.com/%7Esymons/06snake1.pdf

Lynn K.

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Old June 18th 06, 04:49 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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wrote:
Does anyone have experience with snake avoidance training in dogs?


Yeah, my older gsd was snakeproofed twice by this man:

http://www.garlic.com/%7Esymons/06snake1.pdf

Lynn K.

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Old June 18th 06, 11:38 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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oups.com...

wrote:
Does anyone have experience with snake avoidance training in dogs?


Yeah, my older gsd was snakeproofed twice by this man:

http://www.garlic.com/%7Esymons/06snake1.pdf

Lynn K.




What a great idea! Especially for people who live in areas where these
snakes are common!

--

Best Regards,

Evelyn
(to reply to me personally, remove 'sox')


 




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