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How Are Dogs Put Down?
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:00:27 -0500, Ken Hall
wrote: In our area pounds kill 90-95% of the dogs brought in. How is this typically done? Usually with gas. Does each dog get a shot? That would be a rarity. Apparently it's cost prohibitive (not just for the drugs, but for the additional personnel required) in most areas. Are they herded in to a common room and gassed? What? That's pretty much it. -- Handsome Jack Morrison |
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Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:00:27 -0500, Ken Hall wrote: Are they herded in to a common room and gassed? What? That's pretty much it. Wow, I guess practices do vary. At the local shelter, it's done individually by a veterinarian. I gather several local veterinarians pitch in for this duty; mine is disturbed by her participation. The state Animal Welfare Act (NC) provides for certification of laypersons to perform euthanasia, though. Amy Dahl |
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:12:12 GMT, Amy Dahl
wrote: Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 11:00:27 -0500, Ken Hall wrote: Are they herded in to a common room and gassed? What? That's pretty much it. Wow, I guess practices do vary. At the local shelter, it's done individually by a veterinarian. I gather several local veterinarians pitch in for this duty; mine is disturbed by her participation. I think you'll find that gas is used in the country's shelters with the highest rates of turnover. Basically big city/county shelters. All the bigger ones around here do. Again, I'm told it's primarily because of the higher costs (and additional licensing requirements) associated with administering drugs. It's changing, but not fast enough to suit me. We actually (at a shelter in a nearby county) had a dog survive the gas chamber (a few years ago), and he's become somewhat of a local celebrity. His name is Quentin. He was given a special pardon. http://www.strayrescue.org/quentin.html The state Animal Welfare Act (NC) provides for certification of laypersons to perform euthanasia, though. Yeah, that's what they're trying to evolve to here, too. But not fast enough, IMO. -- Handsome Jack Morrison |
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Ken Hall wrote: I was afraid of that. Thanks for the reply. But you do understand that that is not necessarily the method used at the shelters in your area, don't you? Gas is illegal in a number of states, and where it is still used, it's often done in an indvidual chamber, one animal at a time. Injection is the most commonly used method, by far. What bothers me is your statement that shelters in your area kill 90% of their intake. That number is far out of line with other shelters across the country. 50% is the norm. Jant's point is well taken - if you are concerned about the shelters in your area, your questions are best directed directly to them because none of us can answer for them. But I'd suggest that the kill rate you state is a much bigger concern than the killing method. I hope you're going to put your energies into changing that. Lynn K. |
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How Are Dogs Put Down?
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:01:43 -0400, Handsome Jack Morrison
wrote: On 23 Jun 2006 15:07:05 -0700, wrote: Ken Hall wrote: I was afraid of that. Thanks for the reply. But you do understand that that is not necessarily the method used at the shelters in your area, don't you? Gas is illegal in a number of states, and where it is still used, it's often done in an indvidual chamber, one animal at a time. Injection is the most commonly used method, by far. Lynn, I think you'd be surprised at how many states, counties, cities, still use gas (for dogs over 4 months of age, etc.), and not on one animal at a time either. I know I was. And that's because... The practice of lethal injection is not without its own baggage. A shot is a shot, and painful. Many dogs and cats found in shelters have no desire to be handled or near humans. Imagine the stress on a feral cat or dog being prepared for, say, sedation, then injection. It can be a pretty ugly sight. I've seen it many times. And there's not a lot of people around who are qualified, or are able, to do it. Or not for long. If I were the dog, I'm not so sure that I wouldn't opt for gas. What bothers me is your statement that shelters in your area kill 90% of their intake. That number is far out of line with other shelters across the country. 50% is the norm. Yep, about 50-60% appears to be the norm. -- Handsome Jack Morrison |
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How Are Dogs Put Down?
Handsome Jack Morrison wrote: The practice of lethal injection is not without its own baggage. A shot is a shot, and painful. Many dogs and cats found in shelters have no desire to be handled or near humans. Imagine the stress on a feral cat or dog being prepared for, say, sedation, then injection. It can be a pretty ugly sight. I've seen it many times I don't disagree, but that doesn't change the fact that a number of states (CA is one) require lethal injection. Frankly, most don't do pre-injection sedation and I've seen a whole lot of related practices that are questionable, like putting the cats to be euth'ed that day into squeeze cages hours before they're injected. Lynn K. |
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:34:28 -0400, Handsome Jack Morrison
wrote: ...Frankly, most don't do pre-injection sedation Which negates a lot of lethal injection's so-called humane-ness, IMO. ... Whatever method that is used (for whatever reason), it should be applied in the most humane way possible. Unfortunately, it far too often isn't. The local shelter pre-sedates less than one percent of the dogs. Almost without exception, the killing is quick and apparently painless. I've heard of cases (usually at the vet's office) where things have gone wrong--to the horror of all present--but I have never seen it happen. When I worked for the shelter, I delivered dead animals to the landfill: right at 2,000 pounds per week--from a human population of only 260K. Yes, that is far, far too many. The incoming stream of dogs never ends, and rarely slows. Five years into shelter involvement, I still can't believe my eyes. ________________________ Practice safe eating - always use condiments. |
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How Are Dogs Put Down?
"Michael A. Ball" wrote: Almost without exception, the killing is quick and apparently painless. I've heard of cases (usually at the vet's office) where things have gone wrong--to the horror of all present--but I have never seen it happen. I personally know of two incidences of euthanasia not going as it should at private vet's offices; in one case, it wasn't quick, and in the other, not painless. The first case was 20+ years ago, with my own dog, Laddie. It was far from quick - he not only didn't die as the vet expected after the first shot, but kept on breathing (just a bit slower) after the *second* shot. Only on being given a THIRD dose did his breathing and heartbeat stop. The vet got pretty freaked out, although she managed to keep her cool to some extent. I've never known exactly why it occurred - whether the vet miscalculated the dose or missed the vein (the latter being doubtful), whether the dog's poor circulation (he was a heartworm survivor) affected the distribution of the drug, whether the cantankerous old fart (Laddie, that is) was simply being cantankerous to the last.. And just this past weekend, a co-worker of mine had a horrible experience putting down her 14-year-old Cocker; the vet didn't sedate the dog, the dog freaked out and started thrashing, the vet kept trying to give the shot while my friend's ex-husband started screaming... fortunately my friend was able to assert herself, and ordered the vet to back off, then told her ex to leave the room. She then basically ordered the vet to go get sedating drugs, and eventually the dog was put down more appropriately. |
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