So, I've got a new dog from the SPCA, 7 year old rott/husky mix, had a
really really good home last time, was in the shelter for a month. He's
great but for one issue... I can't sleep with him. Period. I have
insomnia and I can't sleep a wink unless I'm in a totally dark, totally
quiet room by myself.

I work at home so because of my insomnia I stay up late and sleep in
late, but my dog whines and scratches at my door earlier and earlier
each morning to come into my room, where he spends most of his day
because I also spend most of my day here. This is completely
unacceptable as a situation and I need to find a way to curb this
behavior. I'd like to be able to hang out with him in my room during the
day, I just have to kick him out at night. Should I start limiting the
amount of time he spends in here? Should I ignore him in the morning
when he scratches and whines?

"\"The Tactician\" Luke Michaels"
said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I'd like to be able to hang out with him in my room during
the day, I just have to kick him out at night.

Is there a reason that he can't sleep in your bedroom at night?
You wrote that you need total quiet at night - does he make
noise?

FWIW, I'm a very light sleeper, but since getting dogs I've
learned to get back to sleep quickly. I've looked after a
French Bulldog at night a couple of times - they make continuous
snuffling noises while asleep, so I've resorted to earplugs when
he stays.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Rocky wrote:
"\"The Tactician\" Luke Michaels"
said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I'd like to be able to hang out with him in my room during
the day, I just have to kick him out at night.

Is there a reason that he can't sleep in your bedroom at night?
You wrote that you need total quiet at night - does he make
noise?

I can't do it, I've tried, having insomnia... the conditions under which
I can sleep are very very picky and specific and I just can't sleep with
an animal in the room.

"The Tactician" Luke Michaels wrote:

Rocky wrote:

"\"The Tactician\" Luke Michaels"
said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I'd like to be able to hang out with him in my room during
the day, I just have to kick him out at night.


Is there a reason that he can't sleep in your bedroom at night? You
wrote that you need total quiet at night - does he make noise?


I can't do it, I've tried, having insomnia... the conditions under which
I can sleep are very very picky and specific and I just can't sleep with
an animal in the room.

You're going to be in serious trouble if you ever get married.

Can you sleep *without* an animal in the room?

How bad is your general sleep quality? There are specific problems that
can create sleep disorders and they are for the most part treatable. If
you're having serious sleep issues I would strongly advise mentioning it
to your doctor. Sleep is a huge quality of life issue.

Kathleen

"The Tactician" Luke Michaels wrote:
So, I've got a new dog from the SPCA, 7 year old rott/husky mix, had a
really really good home last time, was in the shelter for a month. He's
great but for one issue... I can't sleep with him. Period. I have
insomnia and I can't sleep a wink unless I'm in a totally dark, totally
quiet room by myself.

I work at home so because of my insomnia I stay up late and sleep in
late, but my dog whines and scratches at my door earlier and earlier
each morning to come into my room, where he spends most of his day
because I also spend most of my day here. This is completely
unacceptable as a situation and I need to find a way to curb this
behavior. I'd like to be able to hang out with him in my room during the
day, I just have to kick him out at night. Should I start limiting the
amount of time he spends in here? Should I ignore him in the morning
when he scratches and whines?

I have insomnia also. The best time to sleep is at night as you will be
following the natural light darkness internal clock for sleep. Either
change your habits or take the dog back, or let him in your room and
suffer the consequences, it is not fair to get a dog and expect it to
lead a life foreign to them. Like sleeping in the day and being up at
night, if you had wanted that you should have gotten a Mirema dog since
it is awake at nights.
Show Dog Bark

In article ,
Kathleen wrote:
Sleep is a huge quality of life issue.

Boy, I'll say.

I've always had serious sleep problems. At six years old I
had a prescription for sleeping pills, which was pretty much
unheard-of in 1962. When I travel I pick hotels in which I
know I can turn the fan on manually, to provide white noise
to mask other noises, and I take OTC sleep medications.

However, at home I sleep with seven dogs in my bedroom, with
varying numbers[*] actually on the bed with me, and it's not
a sleep problem. It wasn't always thus, but I find it
reassuring/calming to have the dogs around me and they've
actually become a sleep aid rather than a sleep hindrance.
Individual results may vary, of course, but I wouldn't
surrender to the inevitability dog-induced sleeplessness
without giving it a really, really good try.
[*] Having a somewhat empirical bent I've been testing the
hypothesis, "You can't have too many dogs on the bed." The
hypothesis turns out to be false: 6 dogs is definitely too
many, 5 dogs is manageable if the space is managed well (and
you can't rely on dogs to be good at jigsaw puzzles), but 4
dogs is just fine on a queen-sized bed.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

"showdogbark" wrote:
I have insomnia also. The best time to sleep is at night as you will be
following the natural light darkness internal clock for sleep. Either
change your habits or take the dog back, or let him in your room and
suffer the consequences, it is not fair to get a dog and expect it to
lead a life foreign to them. Like sleeping in the day and being up at
night, if you had wanted that you should have gotten a Mirema dog since
it is awake at nights.

Dogs are adaptable, and sleep during the day as well as at night. A normal
dog spends less than 50% awake during a 24h period.
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=72649&dopt=Citati on)

Adult humans usually get between 4 and 8 hours of sleep during a 24h period.

Why would Maremmas be any more nocturnal than other dogs?

Mary Healey wrote:
"showdogbark" wrote:
I have insomnia also. The best time to sleep is at night as you will be
following the natural light darkness internal clock for sleep. Either
change your habits or take the dog back, or let him in your room and
suffer the consequences, it is not fair to get a dog and expect it to
lead a life foreign to them. Like sleeping in the day and being up at
night, if you had wanted that you should have gotten a Mirema dog since
it is awake at nights.

Dogs are adaptable, and sleep during the day as well as at night. A normal
dog spends less than 50% awake during a 24h period.
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=72649&dopt=Citati on)

Adult humans usually get between 4 and 8 hours of sleep during a 24h period.

Why would Maremmas be any more nocturnal than other dogs?

Maremmas are nocturnal because they were bred to protect animals like
sheep and chickens, and lamas recently to protect the animals form
predators. Who come and eat the animals. They have reduced the sheep
cut block deaths to almost zero. They work with the Border Collies who
work the sheep in the day and sleep at night and the Maremmas are awake
at night and keep the predators away.
Show Dog Bark

"showdogbark" wrote in
oups.com:


Mary Healey wrote:
"showdogbark" wrote:
I have insomnia also. The best time to sleep is at night as you
will be following the natural light darkness internal clock for
sleep. Either change your habits or take the dog back, or let him
in your room and suffer the consequences, it is not fair to get a
dog and expect it to lead a life foreign to them. Like sleeping in
the day and being up at night, if you had wanted that you should
have gotten a Mirema dog since it is awake at nights.

Dogs are adaptable, and sleep during the day as well as at night. A
normal dog spends less than 50% awake during a 24h period.
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=72649&dopt=Citati on)

Adult humans usually get between 4 and 8 hours of sleep during a 24h
period.

Why would Maremmas be any more nocturnal than other dogs?

Maremmas are nocturnal because they were bred to protect animals like
sheep and chickens, and lamas recently to protect the animals form
predators.

Proof, please. Of Maremmas being nocturnal, that is, not that they're
livestock guardian dogs. Why Maremmas in particular, and not LGD in
general?

the sheep cut block deaths

What's this when it's at home?

On 5 Jul 2006 11:10:45 -0700, "showdogbark" ,
clicked their heels and said:
Like sleeping in the day and being up at
night, if you had wanted that you should have gotten a Mirema dog since
it is awake at nights.

Dogs adapt to owner time schedules. Are you speaking of the Maremma,
a sheep guardian breed? Hard to tell with your unique "knowledge" of
dogs.


--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com