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Old July 13th 06, 11:51 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Mirelle
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My boyfriend's dog Marsha is very sick.
Her mix is Golden Lab and Husky. She looks more Golden though.
She is on oral cortisone every other day.
She throws up without it and has diarrhea.
She has a coat that sheds continually.
Her breath really stinks.
He walks her for three hours a day. The vet did all the tests he could
think of and he could not find the source of her malady.
I think she needs an ex-ray to see if there is an intestinal blockage.
My boyfriend say's the vet does not think it is necessary.
She eats elk and salmon kiblle that he buys from the vet.
He has tried other dog foods and this one seems to be the least
upsetting to her health.
Does any one else have any ideas or is my idea of having her ex-rayed
the thing to do?
Mirelle

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Old July 14th 06, 12:16 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Melinda Shore
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In article .com,
Mirelle wrote:
The vet did all the tests he could
think of and he could not find the source of her malady.


Did he do a fecal panel?
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Old July 14th 06, 12:41 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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Melinda Shore wrote:
In article .com,
Mirelle wrote:
The vet did all the tests he could
think of and he could not find the source of her malady.


Did he do a fecal panel?


I asked him and he just told me yes. It was normal. All the tests were
normal. So the vet said he thinks it is allergies. That is why he has
her on the cortisone. What do you think?

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Mirelle

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Old July 14th 06, 12:49 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Melinda Shore
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In article .com,
Mirelle wrote:
I asked him and he just told me yes. It was normal. All the tests were
normal. So the vet said he thinks it is allergies. That is why he has
her on the cortisone. What do you think?


With the caveat that I am not a vet, I would be surprised if
it were allergies. What I'd do in your position (and I've
been in a similar place) is take the dog to a veterinary
teaching hospital affiliated with a vet school, if one is
within reasonable distance. They have amazing diagnostic
facilities and the clinicians tend to be extremely well-
informed. They tend to treat your dog like a science
experiment but sometimes that's exactly what's needed.
There's a pretty good list at
http://aavmc.org/students_admissions/vet_schools.htm
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Old July 14th 06, 01:08 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Mirelle
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Melinda Shore wrote:
In article .com,
Mirelle wrote:
I asked him and he just told me yes. It was normal. All the tests were
normal. So the vet said he thinks it is allergies. That is why he has
her on the cortisone. What do you think?


With the caveat that I am not a vet, I would be surprised if
it were allergies. What I'd do in your position (and I've
been in a similar place) is take the dog to a veterinary
teaching hospital affiliated with a vet school, if one is
within reasonable distance.


Thank you for that advice. I was wondering if you think that before he
did that if an ex-ray would be in order. I am frustrated with the vet
for not taking my suggestion seriously and so my boyfriend does not
think it is necessary because the vet said so. I keep wondering if
Marsha has a stick lodged somewhere in her intestines. Can this be felt
without an ex-ray?

They have amazing diagnostic
facilities and the clinicians tend to be extremely well-
informed. They tend to treat your dog like a science
experiment but sometimes that's exactly what's needed.
There's a pretty good list at
http://aavmc.org/students_admissions/vet_schools.htm



Thank you for the site.


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Mirelle

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Old July 14th 06, 03:54 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"Mirelle" wrote in message
oups.com...

The vet did all the tests he could
think of and he could not find the source of her malady.



If this particular veterinarian is not helping the dog, actively searching
for answers, or referring you to someone who will then by all means find
another veterinarian.
A second opinion is never a bad idea.


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Old July 14th 06, 10:46 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
buglady
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"Mirelle" wrote in message
oups.com...
My boyfriend's dog Marsha is very sick.
Her mix is Golden Lab and Husky. She looks more Golden though.
She is on oral cortisone every other day.
She throws up without it and has diarrhea.


...........so if this dog is on steroids, these two symptoms disappear?

The vet did all the tests he could
think of and he could not find the source of her malady.


........I think you need a second opinion. Without knowing what tests he did
and what the results were, especially the bloodwork, it's impossible to say
if he's covered all the bases.

buglady
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Old July 14th 06, 02:13 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Mirelle
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Toni wrote:
"Mirelle" wrote in message
oups.com...

The vet did all the tests he could
think of and he could not find the source of her malady.



If this particular veterinarian is not helping the dog, actively searching
for answers, or referring you to someone who will then by all means find
another veterinarian.
A second opinion is never a bad idea.


snip

Toni
http://www.cearbhaill.com/rules.htm


Love the web site. Thanks.
Mirelle

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Old July 14th 06, 02:21 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Mirelle
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buglady wrote:
"Mirelle" wrote in message
oups.com...
My boyfriend's dog Marsha is very sick.
Her mix is Golden Lab and Husky. She looks more Golden though.
She is on oral cortisone every other day.
She throws up without it and has diarrhea.


..........so if this dog is on steroids, these two symptoms disappear?


No the symptoms did not completely disappear. She still throws up, but
less.

The vet did all the tests he could
think of and he could not find the source of her malady.


.......I think you need a second opinion. Without knowing what tests he did
and what the results were, especially the bloodwork, it's impossible to say
if he's covered all the bases.


He is not receptive to another opinion. He thinks he got a sick dog
from her genetics.
It is frustrating because I would love to take her to another vet, but
she is not my dog.
How many rights diplomatically does a person in my situation have. I do
not wish to offend him. He loves Marsha and has spent so much money
already on her, and he trusts this vet.
If it were my dog, I would take her elsewhere today.
I will see if he remembers what blood work was done, or if he kept the
receipts so I can be specific about all the tests.
This is a sensitive issue, as it is his dog.



buglady
take out the dog before replying


Mirelle

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Old July 15th 06, 01:01 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
buglady
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"Mirelle" wrote in message
ups.com...
He is not receptive to another opinion. He thinks he got a sick dog
from her genetics.


..........I doubt it. Getting a second opinion does not necessarily mean
he's abandoned his vet. People do this all the time. In fact, if his vet
is stumped, he should be very open to the idea of someone else taking a look
at this dog and should be suggesting that he seek out further help, perhaps
even a specialist. The object is to help the dog, not protect one's ego.
This goes for the vet and your boyfriend. Getting a second opinion is
smart, and the best way to help the dog.

It is frustrating because I would love to take her to another vet, but
she is not my dog.
How many rights diplomatically does a person in my situation have.


.........You have no legal rights. And secretly taking the dog to another
vet won't help either, because the solution is more likely to be a process
and further tests, not just one visit. And you'd have to have copies of all
the tests that were done, or they'd have to be repeated.

I will see if he remembers what blood work was done, or if he kept the
receipts so I can be specific about all the tests.


..........If he really wants to help his dog, he'll get copies of all the
bloodwork and tests already done and get involved in her care. I'd be
interested to know if they did an ACTH stimulation test for Addison's
disease, or considered problems with the pancreas. There's all kinds of
things it could be. He needs to know what tests were done and why they were
done - IOW what the vet was looking for when he ordered the tests, and if
that tentative diagnosis was absolutely ruled out by the testing. Sometimes
lab tests do not definitively rule out a disease or problem. Arriving at a
diagnosis is often a process, not a one hit wonder. You start with a list
of possibles and work your way through them with testing and response to
treatments.

........As for your idea that the dog is blocked, if the dog is passing
feces, she's not totally blocked up. I suppose she could have something in
her stomach that she can't vomit up and that won't pass through. I don't
see why the vet would say the dog might not be helped by taking an X-ray.
If he's tried everything else, doesn't know what is going on and the owner
is willing to pay for it, there's no reason for him not to do it other than
ego as the procedure is not major surgery. I would think at this point he'd
like to see what the organs look like, may even help him with the diagnosis.

.........As for what you can do, love on this dog every chance you get. Back
off insistance about the issue of a blockage, because I don't think that's
the answer either. Try talking reasonably to your boyfriend about the issue
without urgency. Calmly reasoning with him may be your best hope in helping
the dog.

buglady
take out the dog before replying


 




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