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Old August 9th 06, 03:09 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.misc,rec.pets.cats.misc,alt.pets.rabbits
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Default Protest new dog slaughter in Jinan, Shandong Province!

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 12:28:28 +0100, "pearl" wrote:

From Animals Asia
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: Protest new dog slaughter in Jinan, Shandong Province!

Thousands more dogs need your help in Jinan (China)!
Once again we need your help to protest another dog cull in China,
this time in Jinan in Shandong Province. In response to the deaths
of 16 people from rabies in Jinan over the last 8 months, Government
officials had announced plans to kill all dogs (whether licensed or not)
within a 3 mile radius of the recent rabies outbreaks, but refused to
disclose how many dogs would be killed. Animals Asia supporters
living in the region have now confirmed that the slaughter is underway.

We have written an urgent letter to the Shandong authorities, as well
as requesting urgent meetings with the Central Government in Beijing
- where we hope to bring together key Chinese animal welfare
advocates to discuss what is needed from within to address the
problems of rabies and stray dog control throughout China.

We would like to request your help in adding your voice to the call
by going to: http://www.animalsasia.org/Shandongdogcull.php
where you will find a sample letter of protest which can be faxed
and emailed to the authorities in Shandong, as well as emailed to
Government office in China and to your local Chinese embassy.

We know from experience that letter-writing campaigns can have
a great impact on policy - working as a much-needed catalyst from
which to open up dialogue between groups offering their help and
the authorities in question. We believe that working together with
local groups, academics and officials is imperative if we are to
create lasting change. By gathering and translating information
from international experts on responsible rabies reduction
programmes which have been effective in other countries, together
with enhancing and promoting the proven benefits of sharing our
lives with companion animals (such as expanding our successful
Dr. Dog animal therapy programme in China), we are confident
that humane and effective solutions can be found.

Thank you so much for caring about our best friends in China
and for joining the urgent call to help - together we can ensure
that these brutal dog culls become a thing of the past.

Warm wishes,
Jill
Jill Robinson MBE
Founder & CEO
Animals Asia Foundation


Good luck teaching consideration of dogs to a culture that old.
Maybe it's possible...
  #2  
Old August 9th 06, 03:26 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.misc,rec.pets.cats.misc,alt.pets.rabbits
pearl
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Default Protest new dog slaughter in Jinan, Shandong Province!

wrote in message ...
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 12:28:28 +0100, "pearl" wrote:

From Animals Asia
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: Protest new dog slaughter in Jinan, Shandong Province!

Thousands more dogs need your help in Jinan (China)!
Once again we need your help to protest another dog cull in China,
this time in Jinan in Shandong Province. In response to the deaths
of 16 people from rabies in Jinan over the last 8 months, Government
officials had announced plans to kill all dogs (whether licensed or not)
within a 3 mile radius of the recent rabies outbreaks, but refused to
disclose how many dogs would be killed. Animals Asia supporters
living in the region have now confirmed that the slaughter is underway.

We have written an urgent letter to the Shandong authorities, as well
as requesting urgent meetings with the Central Government in Beijing
- where we hope to bring together key Chinese animal welfare
advocates to discuss what is needed from within to address the
problems of rabies and stray dog control throughout China.

We would like to request your help in adding your voice to the call
by going to: http://www.animalsasia.org/Shandongdogcull.php
where you will find a sample letter of protest which can be faxed
and emailed to the authorities in Shandong, as well as emailed to
Government office in China and to your local Chinese embassy.

We know from experience that letter-writing campaigns can have
a great impact on policy - working as a much-needed catalyst from
which to open up dialogue between groups offering their help and
the authorities in question. We believe that working together with
local groups, academics and officials is imperative if we are to
create lasting change. By gathering and translating information
from international experts on responsible rabies reduction
programmes which have been effective in other countries, together
with enhancing and promoting the proven benefits of sharing our
lives with companion animals (such as expanding our successful
Dr. Dog animal therapy programme in China), we are confident
that humane and effective solutions can be found.

Thank you so much for caring about our best friends in China
and for joining the urgent call to help - together we can ensure
that these brutal dog culls become a thing of the past.

Warm wishes,
Jill
Jill Robinson MBE
Founder & CEO
Animals Asia Foundation


Add:

'YUNNAN DOG MASSACRE

As OIPA has learned read from international news reports,
government authorities in Chuxiong in Yunnan province,
embarked on a 5-day dog killing campaign between July 25th
and July 30th following the deaths of 3 local people from rabies.

Over 50,000 dogs, including pet dogs, were brutally beaten to
death, hung or electrocuted. Initially the government offered
dog owners 5rmb (62 US cents) to kill their own dogs, but
when this measure failed a special task force was set up to
raid suspected homes and kill all dogs found.

Only military and police dogs were spared by the slaughter
squads.

A second Chinese city planned a mass dog slaughter to contain
a rabies outbreak.

Please, send e-mails to the Chinese authorities expressing your
outrage at their brutal dog eradication campaign.

http://www.oipa.org/appelli/abandonment_china.htm

THE GLOBAL TRADE IN DOG AND CAT FUR

An estimated 2,000,000 dogs and cats are killed every year for
the fur trade, mostly in the Far East, in countries such as China
and the Philippines. A recent undercover investigation by the
"Humane Society of the United States" in China, Thailand and
the Philippines showed animals being slaughtered in the most
cruel ways imaginable, with cats and dogs being beaten, strangled,
drowned and stripped of their fur, often when they are still alive.

Dog and cat fur is used in a wide variety of products including
fur coats and jackets, hats, gloves, decorative accessories, blankets.

Please sign our petitions:

PETITION TO THE CHINESE EMBASSY

http://www.oipa.org/campagne/furcatd...nesembassy.htm

UNLICENSED OWNERS IN TERROR OF HAVING DOGS CONFISCATED AND BRUTALLY KILLED

http://www.oipa.org/campagne/furcatd...uthorities.htm

LETTER TO EUROPEAN COMMISSIONER

http://www.oipa.org/campagne/furcatdog_commissioner.htm

SIGN THIS PETITION TO THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT

http://www.oipa.org/campagne/furcatd...parliament.htm

Good luck teaching consideration of dogs to a culture that old.
Maybe it's possible...


'Hope

Henry See
6 August 2006
Signs of the Times

Hope is often a fragile thing. We hope for so much, yet we seem to attain so little.
Looking back, we see our hopes are often based upon illusion, and it is therefore
not surprising that they are dashed, that they amount to nothing. And if it is so
with our petty, individual hopes, what of our hopes for the world at large?

What of the hope for peace, for a world free from violence and war and fear, a
world where the needs of everyone are met?

A vain hope we are told. A vain hope we conclude from our study of history.
Man is an animal, has a dark side, something that cannot be done away with,
that is an integral part of who he is. We are told, and come to accept, that it has
always been this way, and ever so shall it be.

Moreover, the greatest and most respected minds of our species have sought to
find the way out of this predicament for thousands of years. They have elaborated
moral systems, religions, philosophies, rules and regulations, laws, political and
economic systems, all to this end. For naught. The last century saw monstrous
wars on a scale worthy of man's great technical progress. By the end of the
Second World War, it had become easy to kill hundreds of thousands with one
bomb, and tens of millions over the course of several years. The intervening
decades have only upped the numbers. Single bombs can now potentially kill
millions. Most of the planet's population could be hit in a matter of minutes.


Where war was once the domain of soldiers, it is more and more aimed at civilians.
We see this today with Israeli attacks on the civilian population of Lebanon, their
attacks on the civilian population of Gaza and the West Bank. We see it, too, in
the war in Iraq waged by the United States of America against a people who were
no threat to anyone.

There are also the manmade viri that spread from the laboratory into the population,
causing diseases that can potentially kill millions more.

All the evidence points to the fact that war, violence, and the killing of innocents is
part of who we are as a species.

But what if the initial assumptions are wrong?

How many of you reading these words would be able to do such a thing as kill a
baby or small child? How many of you could put a bullet, or several, into the head
of a ten-year-old on her way to school, or empty your pistol's clip into the body
of a child wounded at your feet? How many of you could order the bombing of
an appartment block knowing that the dead will be civilians, families, people who
have never raised a gun against an enemy in their lives?

We ask again. What if our initial assumptions are wrong? What if this violence we
see all around us does not come from within us, from within people of conscience,
but comes from another source?

What if the evil we see around us in the world is not born from human nature?

Our studies on psychopathy, and the work of Polish psychologist Andrew
Lobaczewski on the dynamics of psychopathic political systems, suggests very
strongly that everything we "know" about the dark side of human nature is wrong,
that the primary source of the violence and active harming of other beings on our
planet comes not from mankind, but from an almost human species in our midst,
a species that looks human, but that is missing that which we would say is the
defining characteristic of humanity: conscience.

Could it really be that these horrors that we live with on the nightly news, that we
read about in history books, that have always been with us and which seem such
an integral part of human life, are not a necessary component of life? That they are
injected into our lives through a parasite/predator in our midst? One that moves
invisibly within society?

If you have done no research into psychopthy, such a hypothesis may well seem
far-fetched, an idealist fantasy. It seems outrageous. It goes against everything you
have been taught. It goes against everything you think you "know". However, once
you have studied the issue, have read the research into psychopathic behaviour,
have studied a psychopath's methods and means of manipulation, once you have
understood the individual psychopath and have traced its predation as the most
successful ones move into positions of power in the law, politics, business, the
police and the military, and as these individuals join together with others of their ilk
to form cohesive structures that can take over social movements and political parties,
once all of this is understood, and the horror of what we are facing hits home, then,
in the face of this horror, a small spark of hope is lit.

An in-depth understanding of psychopathy and ponerology brings the realization
that the violence around us is not an instrinic part of who we are. It is an intrinsic
part of who they are.

Having potentially identified the true source of evil doesn't mean that it can be easily
eradicated. Obviously, there are no easy solutions. It is way too late for easy solutions.

However, instead of constantly fighting against the branches, we can begin to strike at
the root.

The first thing people need is knowledge of the true problem. Just that, just identifying
the real cause, is a large step. It makes the world understandable. You can understand
why there is such relentless bombing of Lebanon, of the Gaza. You understand why
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of their gang can lie about Weapons of Mass
Destruction in Iraq, in spite of it costing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
You stop wondering how people can do such horrors because you see them for who
they are. You understand that they act this way because that is who they are.

So the first thing this knowledge brings is clarity. I think that this understanding alone
may well make a big difference in how we approach the problems facing us. With a
clear mind, solutions will appear that have eluded us while we suffered under the
delusion that the problem came from within us.

If the origin of evil is genetic, that is, it arises from those psychopaths with this genetic
difference who have a predisposition to committing acts that the rest of us judge as evil
while we, the people of conscience, do not, we need to become aware of this difference
and the way it is being used against us.

And here is where such understanding brings hope. Such violence is not part of what
makes us human. This understanding will give to people a hope that the senseless
slaughters of history, that have been put down to "human nature", and therefore to a
certain inevitability, can be ended once and for all. If the psychopaths who rule our
societies and who deform our understanding of ourselves can eventually be isolated,
human history might well embark on a completely different path.

If that was understood, would it not be a powerful motivating force for people of
conscience?

Further, the implications of there being a group of people who share a genetic distinction
of which they are conscious, and that these people can band together to achieve their goals,
provides a grounding for much of what is called "conspiracy theory". It takes it out of the
realm of the fantastic and gives it an easily understandable explanation, one that people can
understand.

Imagine being able to give this as an explanation for why a "conspiracy" like the US/Israeli
attacks on 9/11 were able to come off successfully. How often do you hear that it is
impossible because "someone would have talked"? That answer is based upon the idea
that those who carried it out are like you and me.

They aren't.

Moreover, our understanding of current events, as well of history, is completely changed..
Yes, there can be groups of people working together even over centuries to accomplish
goals. And they will not "talk" or betray the conspiracy because they are so different from
the rest of us that it is unthinkable. They do not care about us because all they can "care"
about is winning, is the next rush from entrapping in some way another "normal person",
from the next figurative or literal kill.

They do this because they understand full well that if the truth were known, if people of
conscience were to wake up to the fact that they are ruled over by such almost humans,
there would be a revolt. The psychopaths and their accomplices would be overthrown.
They know it is a question of "us or them".

The rest of us have yet to awaken to this fact.

But to see how deep this could go, one must study up on psychopathy, really understand
how different they are.

Imagine being able to kill for the hell of it. Imagine having no remorse. Ever. No feelings
of guilt. Ever. Imagine being able to kill, lie, cheat, and manipulate and never have a second
thought. And imagine what such a world would look like, how horrible it would be to inhabit.

That is our world under pathocratic domination.

If it appears on the macroscopic scale in international relations, it also exists in our daily lives.
We tend to give the benefit of the doubt to others for bad behaviour and project onto them
our own ways of thinking and behaving. We say "He must be stressed", or "She had a rough
childhood". We think that, everything being equal, everyone else on the planet would respond
as we do. They could only be driven to harmful behaviour towards others under extreme
conditions, or under the influence of drugs.

So the first step on our way out of this world of horrors is to learn to distinguish between
those people who may be a little off some days because they are stressed and those are
are that way because that is who they are. The first step is to learn to identify the
psychopaths around us, those deviants who are in our lives and who are running our world.

The following books are a good place to start:

The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout
The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley
Without Conscience and Snakes in Suits by Dr. Robert Hare

These works will give you a grounding in psychopathy. Once you have this understanding,
you can then learn about how these types work together:

Political Ponerology by Andrew Lobaczewski

These books will change your way of seeing the world. They will open your eyes to the
real workings on our planet.

Once the dynamic is understood by enough people, and individuals learn how to extricate
themselves from these manipulations in their own lives, they can help others to see the real
problem and to extricate themselves. If we have enough time, and there are days when I
really wonder how much time we have left, we can isolate the psychopaths, remove them
from power, and take back the governance of our lives ourselves, perhaps for the first time
in history.

I am not saying that this will be easy or that having this understanding is some sort of
magic bullet. It isn't. But with this knowledge, we can at least to work against the root
problem. And if the hope of a peaceful world where this barbarism is a thing of the past
can be ignited in the hearts of people of conscience, there is no telling what could happen.

http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/...60807_Hope.php


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Old August 9th 06, 06:49 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.misc,rec.pets.cats.misc,alt.pets.rabbits
zabeg
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Default Protest new dog slaughter in Jinan, Shandong Province!

There is a protest at the Chinese Embassy in DC tomorrow at 10:30 AM.

https://community.hsus.org/humane/no...ter_id=3753043


pearl wrote:
wrote in message ...
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 12:28:28 +0100, "pearl" wrote:

From Animals Asia
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:29 PM
Subject: Protest new dog slaughter in Jinan, Shandong Province!

Thousands more dogs need your help in Jinan (China)!
Once again we need your help to protest another dog cull in China,
this time in Jinan in Shandong Province. In response to the deaths
of 16 people from rabies in Jinan over the last 8 months, Government
officials had announced plans to kill all dogs (whether licensed or not)
within a 3 mile radius of the recent rabies outbreaks, but refused to
disclose how many dogs would be killed. Animals Asia supporters
living in the region have now confirmed that the slaughter is underway.

We have written an urgent letter to the Shandong authorities, as well
as requesting urgent meetings with the Central Government in Beijing
- where we hope to bring together key Chinese animal welfare
advocates to discuss what is needed from within to address the
problems of rabies and stray dog control throughout China.

We would like to request your help in adding your voice to the call
by going to: http://www.animalsasia.org/Shandongdogcull.php
where you will find a sample letter of protest which can be faxed
and emailed to the authorities in Shandong, as well as emailed to
Government office in China and to your local Chinese embassy.

We know from experience that letter-writing campaigns can have
a great impact on policy - working as a much-needed catalyst from
which to open up dialogue between groups offering their help and
the authorities in question. We believe that working together with
local groups, academics and officials is imperative if we are to
create lasting change. By gathering and translating information
from international experts on responsible rabies reduction
programmes which have been effective in other countries, together
with enhancing and promoting the proven benefits of sharing our
lives with companion animals (such as expanding our successful
Dr. Dog animal therapy programme in China), we are confident
that humane and effective solutions can be found.

Thank you so much for caring about our best friends in China
and for joining the urgent call to help - together we can ensure
that these brutal dog culls become a thing of the past.

Warm wishes,
Jill
Jill Robinson MBE
Founder & CEO
Animals Asia Foundation


Add:

'YUNNAN DOG MASSACRE

As OIPA has learned read from international news reports,
government authorities in Chuxiong in Yunnan province,
embarked on a 5-day dog killing campaign between July 25th
and July 30th following the deaths of 3 local people from rabies.

Over 50,000 dogs, including pet dogs, were brutally beaten to
death, hung or electrocuted. Initially the government offered
dog owners 5rmb (62 US cents) to kill their own dogs, but
when this measure failed a special task force was set up to
raid suspected homes and kill all dogs found.

Only military and police dogs were spared by the slaughter
squads.

A second Chinese city planned a mass dog slaughter to contain
a rabies outbreak.

Please, send e-mails to the Chinese authorities expressing your
outrage at their brutal dog eradication campaign.

http://www.oipa.org/appelli/abandonment_china.htm

THE GLOBAL TRADE IN DOG AND CAT FUR

An estimated 2,000,000 dogs and cats are killed every year for
the fur trade, mostly in the Far East, in countries such as China
and the Philippines. A recent undercover investigation by the
"Humane Society of the United States" in China, Thailand and
the Philippines showed animals being slaughtered in the most
cruel ways imaginable, with cats and dogs being beaten, strangled,
drowned and stripped of their fur, often when they are still alive.

Dog and cat fur is used in a wide variety of products including
fur coats and jackets, hats, gloves, decorative accessories, blankets.

Please sign our petitions:

PETITION TO THE CHINESE EMBASSY

http://www.oipa.org/campagne/furcatd...nesembassy.htm

UNLICENSED OWNERS IN TERROR OF HAVING DOGS CONFISCATED AND BRUTALLY KILLED

http://www.oipa.org/campagne/furcatd...uthorities.htm

LETTER TO EUROPEAN COMMISSIONER

http://www.oipa.org/campagne/furcatdog_commissioner.htm

SIGN THIS PETITION TO THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT

http://www.oipa.org/campagne/furcatd...parliament.htm

Good luck teaching consideration of dogs to a culture that old.
Maybe it's possible...


'Hope

Henry See
6 August 2006
Signs of the Times

Hope is often a fragile thing. We hope for so much, yet we seem to attain so little.
Looking back, we see our hopes are often based upon illusion, and it is therefore
not surprising that they are dashed, that they amount to nothing. And if it is so
with our petty, individual hopes, what of our hopes for the world at large?

What of the hope for peace, for a world free from violence and war and fear, a
world where the needs of everyone are met?

A vain hope we are told. A vain hope we conclude from our study of history.
Man is an animal, has a dark side, something that cannot be done away with,
that is an integral part of who he is. We are told, and come to accept, that it has
always been this way, and ever so shall it be.

Moreover, the greatest and most respected minds of our species have sought to
find the way out of this predicament for thousands of years. They have elaborated
moral systems, religions, philosophies, rules and regulations, laws, political and
economic systems, all to this end. For naught. The last century saw monstrous
wars on a scale worthy of man's great technical progress. By the end of the
Second World War, it had become easy to kill hundreds of thousands with one
bomb, and tens of millions over the course of several years. The intervening
decades have only upped the numbers. Single bombs can now potentially kill
millions. Most of the planet's population could be hit in a matter of minutes.


Where war was once the domain of soldiers, it is more and more aimed at civilians.
We see this today with Israeli attacks on the civilian population of Lebanon, their
attacks on the civilian population of Gaza and the West Bank. We see it, too, in
the war in Iraq waged by the United States of America against a people who were
no threat to anyone.

There are also the manmade viri that spread from the laboratory into the population,
causing diseases that can potentially kill millions more.

All the evidence points to the fact that war, violence, and the killing of innocents is
part of who we are as a species.

But what if the initial assumptions are wrong?

How many of you reading these words would be able to do such a thing as kill a
baby or small child? How many of you could put a bullet, or several, into the head
of a ten-year-old on her way to school, or empty your pistol's clip into the body
of a child wounded at your feet? How many of you could order the bombing of
an appartment block knowing that the dead will be civilians, families, people who
have never raised a gun against an enemy in their lives?

We ask again. What if our initial assumptions are wrong? What if this violence we
see all around us does not come from within us, from within people of conscience,
but comes from another source?

What if the evil we see around us in the world is not born from human nature?

Our studies on psychopathy, and the work of Polish psychologist Andrew
Lobaczewski on the dynamics of psychopathic political systems, suggests very
strongly that everything we "know" about the dark side of human nature is wrong,
that the primary source of the violence and active harming of other beings on our
planet comes not from mankind, but from an almost human species in our midst,
a species that looks human, but that is missing that which we would say is the
defining characteristic of humanity: conscience.

Could it really be that these horrors that we live with on the nightly news, that we
read about in history books, that have always been with us and which seem such
an integral part of human life, are not a necessary component of life? That they are
injected into our lives through a parasite/predator in our midst? One that moves
invisibly within society?

If you have done no research into psychopthy, such a hypothesis may well seem
far-fetched, an idealist fantasy. It seems outrageous. It goes against everything you
have been taught. It goes against everything you think you "know". However, once
you have studied the issue, have read the research into psychopathic behaviour,
have studied a psychopath's methods and means of manipulation, once you have
understood the individual psychopath and have traced its predation as the most
successful ones move into positions of power in the law, politics, business, the
police and the military, and as these individuals join together with others of their ilk
to form cohesive structures that can take over social movements and political parties,
once all of this is understood, and the horror of what we are facing hits home, then,
in the face of this horror, a small spark of hope is lit.

An in-depth understanding of psychopathy and ponerology brings the realization
that the violence around us is not an instrinic part of who we are. It is an intrinsic
part of who they are.

Having potentially identified the true source of evil doesn't mean that it can be easily
eradicated. Obviously, there are no easy solutions. It is way too late for easy solutions.

However, instead of constantly fighting against the branches, we can begin to strike at
the root.

The first thing people need is knowledge of the true problem. Just that, just identifying
the real cause, is a large step. It makes the world understandable. You can understand
why there is such relentless bombing of Lebanon, of the Gaza. You understand why
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of their gang can lie about Weapons of Mass
Destruction in Iraq, in spite of it costing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
You stop wondering how people can do such horrors because you see them for who
they are. You understand that they act this way because that is who they are.

So the first thing this knowledge brings is clarity. I think that this understanding alone
may well make a big difference in how we approach the problems facing us. With a
clear mind, solutions will appear that have eluded us while we suffered under the
delusion that the problem came from within us.

If the origin of evil is genetic, that is, it arises from those psychopaths with this genetic
difference who have a predisposition to committing acts that the rest of us judge as evil
while we, the people of conscience, do not, we need to become aware of this difference
and the way it is being used against us.

And here is where such understanding brings hope. Such violence is not part of what
makes us human. This understanding will give to people a hope that the senseless
slaughters of history, that have been put down to "human nature", and therefore to a
certain inevitability, can be ended once and for all. If the psychopaths who rule our
societies and who deform our understanding of ourselves can eventually be isolated,
human history might well embark on a completely different path.

If that was understood, would it not be a powerful motivating force for people of
conscience?

Further, the implications of there being a group of people who share a genetic distinction
of which they are conscious, and that these people can band together to achieve their goals,
provides a grounding for much of what is called "conspiracy theory". It takes it out of the
realm of the fantastic and gives it an easily understandable explanation, one that people can
understand.

Imagine being able to give this as an explanation for why a "conspiracy" like the US/Israeli
attacks on 9/11 were able to come off successfully. How often do you hear that it is
impossible because "someone would have talked"? That answer is based upon the idea
that those who carried it out are like you and me.

They aren't.

Moreover, our understanding of current events, as well of history, is completely changed..
Yes, there can be groups of people working together even over centuries to accomplish
goals. And they will not "talk" or betray the conspiracy because they are so different from
the rest of us that it is unthinkable. They do not care about us because all they can "care"
about is winning, is the next rush from entrapping in some way another "normal person",
from the next figurative or literal kill.

They do this because they understand full well that if the truth were known, if people of
conscience were to wake up to the fact that they are ruled over by such almost humans,
there would be a revolt. The psychopaths and their accomplices would be overthrown.
They know it is a question of "us or them".

The rest of us have yet to awaken to this fact.

But to see how deep this could go, one must study up on psychopathy, really understand
how different they are.

Imagine being able to kill for the hell of it. Imagine having no remorse. Ever. No feelings
of guilt. Ever. Imagine being able to kill, lie, cheat, and manipulate and never have a second
thought. And imagine what such a world would look like, how horrible it would be to inhabit.

That is our world under pathocratic domination.

If it appears on the macroscopic scale in international relations, it also exists in our daily lives.
We tend to give the benefit of the doubt to others for bad behaviour and project onto them
our own ways of thinking and behaving. We say "He must be stressed", or "She had a rough
childhood". We think that, everything being equal, everyone else on the planet would respond
as we do. They could only be driven to harmful behaviour towards others under extreme
conditions, or under the influence of drugs.

So the first step on our way out of this world of horrors is to learn to distinguish between
those people who may be a little off some days because they are stressed and those are
are that way because that is who they are. The first step is to learn to identify the
psychopaths around us, those deviants who are in our lives and who are running our world.

The following books are a good place to start:

The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout
The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley
Without Conscience and Snakes in Suits by Dr. Robert Hare

These works will give you a grounding in psychopathy. Once you have this understanding,
you can then learn about how these types work together:

Political Ponerology by Andrew Lobaczewski

These books will change your way of seeing the world. They will open your eyes to the
real workings on our planet.

Once the dynamic is understood by enough people, and individuals learn how to extricate
themselves from these manipulations in their own lives, they can help others to see the real
problem and to extricate themselves. If we have enough time, and there are days when I
really wonder how much time we have left, we can isolate the psychopaths, remove them
from power, and take back the governance of our lives ourselves, perhaps for the first time
in history.

I am not saying that this will be easy or that having this understanding is some sort of
magic bullet. It isn't. But with this knowledge, we can at least to work against the root
problem. And if the hope of a peaceful world where this barbarism is a thing of the past
can be ignited in the hearts of people of conscience, there is no telling what could happen.

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