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Old August 19th 06, 08:06 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Show Dog Bark
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I hear from Jerry, that I have been accused of being some person called
Mirelle. Whoever this Choix Vox is, it disturbs me that he/she has some
issue with someone else and drags me into his/her Drama.
Blue is doing fantastic. Thanks to his wonderful personality, genetics
and Jerry's help. I speak with Jerry a couple of times a week about his
progress and fine tuning his training. Blue sits, heels, is totally
toilet trained, comes, knows 'down', stay and all kinds of things like
'lets go for a walk'. He is pure joy and has made my heart glad and
full of puppy love. He loves walking in the forest trails and swimming
in the cool and refreshing lake. His 'daddy' takes him for his final
walk every evening at 7 P.M. Then it is off to bed. He sleeps till 7 A.
M. It is nice to be able to sleep all night without getting up for a
pee pee a few times with him. In the first few weeks I had to take him
out at night, but now he is able to sleep all night. He is like a
tranquilizer. I keep asking Jerry if Blue is a genius, as he is so
clever and obedient. Her tells me this is the nature of a dog that has
not been abused. Blue is super good looking and so smart. He learned to
sit weeks ago. When he needs to go outside to relieve himself, he lets
me know by going to the door and woofing. One thing that I have noticed
using Jerry's methods is that Blue is very calm. Most dogs are hyper
and chew furniture and have bad habits. Blue only plays with his toys.
He knows the difference between his toys and furniture and does not
nip. I was surprised that he does not want to go on the furniture. He
likes to play on the floor and outside. We sit outside together and he
sits by where I am reading. He may chew a toy or just hang out in the
shade. The whole town loves him and people are impressed with his
manners.
I have no idea who this person is that has me confused with some
Mirelle. I would like to hear from this Choix Vox and find out why I
get dragged into an issue he/she has with someone else. Would Choix Vox
please come forward and explain them-self.
Show Dog Bark

  #2  
Old August 19th 06, 12:22 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Choix Vox
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Within rec.pets.dogs.behavior, "Show Dog Bark" wrote in crayon:

I hear from Jerry, that I have been accused of being some person
called Mirelle. Whoever this Choix Vox is, it disturbs me that
he/she has some issue with someone else and drags me into his/her
Drama.


Like clockwork, the dramatic re-entrence...
Complete with sappy story. removed

I have no idea who this person is that has me confused with some
Mirelle. I would like to hear from this Choix Vox and find out why
I get dragged into an issue he/she has with someone else. Would
Choix Vox please come forward and explain them-self.


Nothing to explain. No vendeta, only the truth.

You are the only ONE in this group that is posting consitently from
that Telus netblock. Second, she entered the group only a few days
after you left. Third, she is using one of same the computers you are,
both with the same build of OSX installed...

And now that you have re-posted, it's verifiable:

From: "Show Dog Bark"
Date: 19 Aug 2006 00:06:01 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.52.101.198
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/418.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Injection-Info: m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=209.52.101.198; posting-account=NZA5jA0AAAAReIhtxcC5AS2k4cdGgqrL

From: "Mirelle"
Date: 17 Aug 2006 12:40:27 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.52.101.137
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/418.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/419.3,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Injection-Info: m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=209.52.101.137; posting-account=z8hnPQ0AAAAYx_VmQbKXV1QbpPDVTpSM

Three points of similarity the

Same time zones - Pacific Time (daylight savings, -0700)
Same small netblock - 209.52.101.*
Same computer info - thanks to Google

What can I tell for your headers? You are a dialup users from BC,
Canada with two or more older (pre intel) Apple computes.


This is all predictable. I called your bluff so now you're trying to
backup your claim with a little spin doctoring. Too bad it dosn't work
on an old school troll like myself.
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Old August 19th 06, 07:05 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Choix Vox wrote:

Erase... same as before with macs and servers matching.
REAL Evidence please.

Interesting Post Choix Vox about Jerry

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Wed, Aug 16 2006 8:18 pm
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"Within rec.pets.dogs.behavior, "unsurreality" wrote in crayon:

Snip INSANE crosspostings


I can see HE captivates you...
So I will refrain from asking you to NOT REPLY to his posts.
But could you do all us poor filtering fools a favor and not strip out
the cross posts? It makes it all the harder remove unwanted posts when
misguided samaritans, like yourself, take it upon themselves to make
things more complicated then they have to be.

If you feel left out you could do what is done with every other Kook
out there, and just tag them (I believe [jerry] could work)."

End of post from Choix Vox

So "my little troll", you are mixing me up with someone who is unlike
me.
I belong to Science Of Spirituality

sos.org

My meditation teacher Kirpal Singh wrote the following:

"Our mission is to fill the human heart with compassion, mercy, and
universal love which should radiate to all countries, nations and
peoples of the world to make a true religion of the heart as the ruling
factor in one's life; to enable each one to love God, love all, serve
all and have respect for all, as God is immanent in all forms.

He was also the President of The World Fellowship Of Religions.
As is the present teacher Rajinder Singh.

Another good web site about my meditation teacher is:

http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/

The web link for Kirpal Singh at Science of Spirituality is:

http://sos.org/webpage/santmat/sks.html

I believe that you are a troll from this group. My using a mac and
having the same 250 range for telus is a long stretch as far as
'evidence' goes. 250 covers all of B. C. except parts of Vancouver.
Now how would you even know that a person who uses telus is in Canada?
Any one world wide can sign up with a carrier and pay long distance
charges when they use their computer world wide. Most people do this
with their cell phones who travel.
The fact is you are blowing smoke screens to hide your real intent, and
my hunch is that it Jerry bashing.
As for this jotnar with an underscore, well it is not the first time
someone has made up an e-mail address to sound like they are the person
they are impersonating. Also jotnaringin is a common name in India so
who knows if it is simply coincidence.

When I was in Orlando with Jerry and Barbara, we went to the Science of
Spirituality Center there. It is just outside Orlando. It is on the web
site under 'centers'.
In fact I intend to go to Orlando over the Christmas Holidays as
Rajinder Singh will be there for 7 days for a conference on Meditation
and World Peace. It will be held at the Sheridan as thousands of people
will attend.
I will be seeing Jerry and Barbara there. Jerry has said he would like
to attend the 7 day conference also as he is impressed with the no
denominational aspect of the group. And is looking forward to seeing
Rajinder Singh as he is not usually at the center in Orlando as he has
hundreds of centers world wide he goes to year round. It is all free.
No charge and the teachers live off their own salaries. The people who
help rum the organization also live from their own incomes.

"The World fellowship of Religions has come into being so that the
representatives of different religions may have some common forum to
sit togehter, shoulder to shoulder, in an honest attempt to understand
the unities in the ever-revolving panorama of apparently diverse forms
and modes of life and thought."

Kirpal Singh

The archers may be many, but the target is one.
Since we are worshipers of the same God, then naturally we should have
love for one another.
You will find that two drunkards will embrace each other irrespective
of whether they are of the East or West, or belong to one Religion or
the other. But do you find among those who profess to be lovers of God
--between followers of one Religion and those of another?
They are lovers so far as their own faith is concerned. If they are
lovers of God, they all should sit together and love one another.

Kirpal Singh

From 1957 he was unanimously elected as President of The World

Fellowship of Religions yearly until his death in 1974.
Hundreds of thousand came yearly to attend from every Religion along
with representatives from the various Religions.
It continues on now with Rajinder Singh.

Now I have looked up some of Mirelle's posts. They are so far fro what
I have posted and so far from my own belief system that I conclude:

Whoever you are, and whatever your true intent is, it has nothing to do
with me. Take it up with Jerry or Mirelle.


Show Dog Bark

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Old August 19th 06, 07:27 PM posted to uk.rec.pets.misc,alt.support.grief.pet-loss,rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.pitbull
Show Dog Bark
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Show Dog Bark wrote:

The first part of my post shows in my answer to Jerry, then goes on to
say 'read more' just in case no one bothers to read more, here is my
ending again.

:
Hi Jerry I had said I would send you the info about the conference in
Orlando, since I mentioned it in my post to 'Choix Vox' I may as well
post it he

Holiday & New Years Program 2006-2007 in Orlando,
Florida
with H.H. Sant Rajinder Singh Ji Maharaj
December 27, 2006 - January 2, 2007

Hotel - Sheraton World Resort, Orlando Florida
Tel. 1-800-327-0363 www.sheratonworld.com
Room Rate - $99 + tax (up to 4 people per room) You
must tell the hotel that you are with Science of
Spirituality event at the time of registration in
order to get this special rate.

Cut off date for reservations is November 27, 2006
at 5:30 pm EST. Make reservations early - rooms are
going fast!

Shuttle service to and from Orlando Airport: $18
round trip. You must book a seat on the Orlando
Airport shuttle service on the internet:
www.ofs4u.com Hotel parking is free.

Show Dog Bark


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Old August 19th 06, 11:30 PM posted to uk.rec.pets.misc,alt.support.grief.pet-loss,rec.pets.dogs.behavior,alt.animals.dog,alt.pets.dogs.pitbull
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"Show Dog Bark" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Hi Jerry I had said I would send you the info about the conference in
cut



Quoting all the bullsh*t from the mor*n doesn't help...



  #7  
Old August 20th 06, 12:09 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Choix Vox
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Within rec.pets.dogs.behavior, "diddy" wrote in crayon:

Like clockwork, the dramatic re-entrence...
Complete with sappy story. removed


Well No one believed Show Bark, so that was a wasted effort.
She seems to think we are all that stupid.
Now THAT'S insulting.


I will try to "re-educate" first...
Arrogance is second only to ignorance when it comes to trolls.
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Old August 20th 06, 01:28 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Choix Vox wrote:
Within rec.pets.dogs.behavior, "diddy" wrote in crayon:

Like clockwork, the dramatic re-entrence...
Complete with sappy story. removed


Well No one believed Show Bark, so that was a wasted effort.
She seems to think we are all that stupid.
Now THAT'S insulting.


I will try to "re-educate" first...


'Re-educate' From a guy who posts as:
I Eat Pussy !

Arrogance is second only to ignorance when it comes to trolls.


Trolling is a topic that interests you !
How Boring !
I would way rather polish my diamonds !

Listen Choivi, I posted a reply to your pathetic attempt to prove that
I am some kind of Dog !
In 'To All'

Now run along and amuse me some more with your attempts to appear
intelligent !

Mirelle

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Old August 20th 06, 03:15 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Choix Vox
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Within rec.pets.dogs.behavior, "Show Dog Bark" wrote in crayon:

Erase... same as before with macs and servers matching.
REAL Evidence please.


Headers are evidence...
Most of them contain user info which is added by GoogleGroups.

My using a mac and having the same 250 range for telus is a long
stretch as far as 'evidence'goes. 250 covers all of BC except
parts of Vancouver.


Only 253 possible addresses. Too small for Provence wide dial up
net block, but that's not the point...


There are only a few NYMs that use that small net block (209.52.101.*)
within this group. All of these NYMS use Google Groups to post and are
all using Power PC MACs running OSX, as seen in the "X-HTTP-UserAgent"
header that Google Groups adds.

They also use the same web client, Safari, in which the build version
varies occasionally, but isn't consistent for any single NYM, but are
noticeable across different NYMs. Since Safari is the default web
client for OSX it is not a strong linking indicator, but strongly
suggestive of multiple computers.

The time zone, read from the local system by Google groups, is also
the same for all nyms within this net block. This limits the computer
to a smaller local regien, and is consitent with Telus' BC net block
assignment, as seen in:

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois....209.52.101.228


All of which is perfectly logical...
Or until I found a way to see past Telus' looping rDNS crap.

Now how would you even know that a person who uses telus is in
Canada? Any one world wide can sign up with a carrier and pay
long distance charges when they use their computer world wide.


It's not too much of a stretch, but still highly unlikely...

Telus, like many ISPs, have local numbers in several countries around
the world. They often also have 1-800 numbers (for a small fee) which
are cheaper to use then connecting via a long-distance call back to
your local ISP connection. In both cases the IP would be reflect your
location; and Edmonton or Toronto net block for a Telus 1-800 number,
or a foreign IP (third party) for local connections.

As for this jotnar with an underscore, well it is not the first
time someone has made up an e-mail address to sound like they are
the person they are impersonating. Also jotnaringin is a common
name in India so who knows if it is simply coincidence.


Again, the only posts with variations on that name are all within
the same net block, so it has no effect on the outcome.

Now I have looked up some of Mirelle's posts. They are so far
from what I have posted and so far from my own belief system
that I conclude: Whoever you are, and whatever your true intent
is, it has nothing to do with me.


At this point I'm inclined to believe "ShowDogBark" isn't on a dial up
account and further examination revealed his REAL ISP, which is a
virtual provider... For privacy reasons I won't post that info.

That ISP don't own any connections, they just resell Internet access
to poor saps who get suckered into a contract. As such, "ShowDogBark"
doesn't have a fixed IP address for her high speed connection. Instead
the entire net block is used as temporary connections to the rest of
the Internet, hopefuly using fast expiring sessions.

This doesn't explain why both you and "Mirelle" have the same taste
in computers, but for now you can't be convicted because of it.
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Old August 21st 06, 05:15 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Choix Vox wrote:
Within rec.pets.dogs.behavior, "Show Dog Bark" wrote in crayon:

Erase... same as before with macs and servers matching.
REAL Evidence please.


Headers are evidence...
Most of them contain user info which is added by GoogleGroups.

My using a mac and having the same 250 range for telus is a long
stretch as far as 'evidence'goes. 250 covers all of BC except
parts of Vancouver.


Only 253 possible addresses. Too small for Provence wide dial up
net block, but that's not the point...


There are only a few NYMs that use that small net block (209.52.101.*)
within this group. All of these NYMS use Google Groups to post and are
all using Power PC MACs running OSX, as seen in the "X-HTTP-UserAgent"
header that Google Groups adds.

They also use the same web client, Safari, in which the build version
varies occasionally, but isn't consistent for any single NYM, but are
noticeable across different NYMs. Since Safari is the default web
client for OSX it is not a strong linking indicator, but strongly
suggestive of multiple computers.

The time zone, read from the local system by Google groups, is also
the same for all nyms within this net block. This limits the computer
to a smaller local regien, and is consitent with Telus' BC net block
assignment, as seen in:

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois....209.52.101.228


All of which is perfectly logical...
Or until I found a way to see past Telus' looping rDNS crap.

Now how would you even know that a person who uses telus is in
Canada? Any one world wide can sign up with a carrier and pay
long distance charges when they use their computer world wide.


It's not too much of a stretch, but still highly unlikely...

Telus, like many ISPs, have local numbers in several countries around
the world. They often also have 1-800 numbers (for a small fee) which
are cheaper to use then connecting via a long-distance call back to
your local ISP connection. In both cases the IP would be reflect your
location; and Edmonton or Toronto net block for a Telus 1-800 number,
or a foreign IP (third party) for local connections.

As for this jotnar with an underscore, well it is not the first
time someone has made up an e-mail address to sound like they are
the person they are impersonating. Also jotnaringin is a common
name in India so who knows if it is simply coincidence.


Again, the only posts with variations on that name are all within
the same net block, so it has no effect on the outcome.

Now I have looked up some of Mirelle's posts. They are so far
from what I have posted and so far from my own belief system
that I conclude: Whoever you are, and whatever your true intent
is, it has nothing to do with me.


At this point I'm inclined to believe "ShowDogBark" isn't on a dial up
account and further examination revealed his REAL ISP, which is a
virtual provider... For privacy reasons I won't post that info.

That ISP don't own any connections, they just resell Internet access
to poor saps who get suckered into a contract. As such, "ShowDogBark"
doesn't have a fixed IP address for her high speed connection. Instead
the entire net block is used as temporary connections to the rest of
the Internet, hopefuly using fast expiring sessions.

This doesn't explain why both you and "Mirelle" have the same taste
in computers, but for now you can't be convicted because of it.


I do not post here that often I have been busy.

 




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