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Old October 1st 06, 07:15 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
MauiJNP
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I almost did this today, stole a dog that is (if this would be
considered stealing).

While driving on a busy road, I noticed a small white dog (best guess
Bichon Frise) walking along the side in the grass. He was about 2 feet from
the road. He was not tied and was going potty. I noticed a lady outside
(about 50-75 feet back from the road, where the house was). I immediately
wanted to pull over and ask her what she was thinking letting the dog out so
close to the road. He could easily have wound up dead. Anyway, I passed
the dog while slowing down and keeping my eyes on him. In the rearview
mirror, I could see the dog go out into the road and by now I was getting
worried about him. I pulled around and went back to the house. I opened
the door and he practically ran over to jump in the car. I got out and
started in the direction of the lady who at this time was walking towards me
too. I asked her if the dog was hers and she said "no, he belongs about 6
houses down". She went on to explain that she often has to take the dog
back to its house because it seems to keep finding its way to her house.
She takes it home whenever she sees it so it doesn't get hit. I have to say
that I was really tempted to tell the lady that I would return the dog and
just take him home with me! I don't understand how anyone can let that
happen over and over when they live so close to a main road.

So, when I got home, I was really kicking myself for not taking the dog
with me. The lady that I was talking to was trying to tell me which house
it was so I could drive the dog home. I could have easily just taken him to
my house. His tag had a number to call and I think I should have given the
owners a scare or something by telling them he was hit or just not calling
about the dog for a few days (while he stayed at my house and let them
panic).


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Old October 1st 06, 02:50 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Michael A. Ball
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On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 02:15:33 -0400, "MauiJNP" wrote:

I almost did this today, stole a dog that is (if this would be
considered stealing)....


What an ethical dilemma that would be for most folks! Fortunately, I'm
not one of them.

I consider the dog's owner naive, inept and probably unfit as pet
owners, but it is not illegal to be that way. It is illegal to take
things that don't belong to you. However, I never pass up even a penny,
because it is easier to get forgiveness, than to get permission.

Supposedly God sees all sins as the same degree of evil. So stealing the
dog is no worse than failing to rescue it. Did the dog need rescuing?
After all, it was following a routine! In my opinion, it definitely
needed rescuing.

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Old October 1st 06, 02:57 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Perry Templeton
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Michael,
I always enjoy your posts.
Your statement "Supposedly God sees all sins as the same degree of evil.
So stealing the
dog is no worse than failing to rescue it." is one of the most eye opening,
profound sentences I've read in a long while.
I like your thinking.
Perry


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Old October 1st 06, 04:48 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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I wonder if you were driving on the new street of my former next door
neighbors.


FWIW, I live in eastern PA.


Sounds like the exact scenario, same breed of dog. I
considered having the dog stolen and placed into rescue (even contacted
a BF rescue group about this), but there are 3 other dogs on my street
that are allowed to roam free and I can't steal them all...


That sounds aweful.



I have
tried talking to the owners but they seem to think it is the
responsibility of the drivers to avoid hitting their dogs.


that's just dumb.



Personally,
the thought of my dog being loose on a street makes me want to vomit.

People are dumb and they **** me off.


agreed


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Old October 1st 06, 04:56 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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I almost did this today, stole a dog that is (if this would be
considered stealing)....


What an ethical dilemma that would be for most folks! Fortunately, I'm
not one of them.

I consider the dog's owner naive, inept and probably unfit as pet
owners, but it is not illegal to be that way. It is illegal to take
things that don't belong to you. However, I never pass up even a penny,
because it is easier to get forgiveness, than to get permission.

Supposedly God sees all sins as the same degree of evil. So stealing the
dog is no worse than failing to rescue it. Did the dog need rescuing?
After all, it was following a routine! In my opinion, it definitely
needed rescuing.


sounds good. I usually go near the area in question to get my dog's food so
I will have to go near the dog's house. that way I can check if he is out
loose and away from his house. If he is running around and not near his
house, I just may have to rescue him. After all, I could always call the
owners and tell them that I almost hit him and maybe even make a call to
Animal Control with the same story. Maybe it would be enough to scare the
owners into keeping him tied? Maybe Animal Control would be able to enforce
it?


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Old October 1st 06, 09:12 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 02:15:33 -0400, "MauiJNP" wrote:

So, when I got home, I was really kicking myself for not taking the dog
with me. The lady that I was talking to was trying to tell me which house
it was so I could drive the dog home. I could have easily just taken him to
my house. His tag had a number to call and I think I should have given the
owners a scare or something by telling them he was hit or just not calling
about the dog for a few days (while he stayed at my house and let them
panic).


Turn him in to Animal Control as a stray in the road but let them know
that if the owner doesn't claim him, you are willing to adopt him.
Around here, if you take the dog, it's stealing, but if you turn it in
to AC, you're covered. Plus, the owners get a wake-up call from the
AC officers who get the name and number off the tag and a fine to get
the dog out of the shelter.

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Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy,
so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
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Old October 1st 06, 09:32 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Nosey Nanci
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They obviously don't appreciate their little friend. You know where it
goes. Go back and steal it. You sound like you would be a better
friend than the owners are.

Nosey Nanci
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Old October 1st 06, 10:58 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
sighthounds & siberians
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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:32:13 -0400, Nosey Nanci
wrote:

They obviously don't appreciate their little friend. You know where it
goes. Go back and steal it. You sound like you would be a better
friend than the owners are.


Really, folks. Don't steal people's dogs. There are procedures to be
followed in cases like this. Follow them.

Mustang Sally

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Old October 1st 06, 11:58 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Melinda Shore
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In article ,
Michael A. Ball wrote:
Supposedly God sees all sins as the same degree of evil.


Um, what? Clams Casino and murder are the same in the eyes
of G-d? This has got to be Leah's church.

Anyway, we don't all come from the same religious tradition,
and in my religious tradition we are responsible for
understanding as much as we can and weighing what we know.
Personally, I don't think that G-d would be all, like, "GO
MICHAEL!!" if the dog belonged to someone who had nobody
else, or was mentally incompetent, or ... What you're
proposing smacks of using religion to justify a decision
that you'd already made ("I'm a *way* better pet owner than
that loser!") rather than using your religious beliefs to
guide your decision.

Sounds to me like an opportunity to work with the owner to
help her be a better owner. Not to mention that that would
help address an economic issue, which is that you'd be
creating demand by taking the dog.
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Old October 2nd 06, 12:56 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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So, when I got home, I was really kicking myself for not taking the
dog
with me. The lady that I was talking to was trying to tell me which house
it was so I could drive the dog home. I could have easily just taken him
to
my house. His tag had a number to call and I think I should have given
the
owners a scare or something by telling them he was hit or just not calling
about the dog for a few days (while he stayed at my house and let them
panic).


Turn him in to Animal Control as a stray in the road but let them know
that if the owner doesn't claim him, you are willing to adopt him.
Around here, if you take the dog, it's stealing, but if you turn it in
to AC, you're covered. Plus, the owners get a wake-up call from the
AC officers who get the name and number off the tag and a fine to get
the dog out of the shelter.


Good idea, thanks.


 




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