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Looking for a female German Shepherd
I brought a German shepherd dog from Moscow and he is now 2 years old.
I want to find him a girlfriend, but don't know where to start. His parents are show dogs, but we never showed Graff. Need some advice on how to go about finding him a girl. Thanks Oksana |
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Looking for a female German Shepherd
wrote in message ups.com... I brought a German shepherd dog from Moscow and he is now 2 years old. I want to find him a girlfriend, but don't know where to start. His parents are show dogs, but we never showed Graff. Need some advice on how to go about finding him a girl. If you aren't even willing to show him (or trial him in ANY German Shepherd related working events), then why would you consider breeding him? There is no shortage of Shepherds in rescue that were the result of poorly thought out "Pet" breedings. In fact, the rescues have far more of these than they can handle. As a Shepherd lover, and as someone who lived for 10 years (RIP Finn) with a GSD that was bred without enough care, I think this is a really bad idea. CHD, CSM, liver disease are just the tip of the iceberg that you could be creating. In terms of temperament, the GSD is an intense breed. If you don't know what you are doing, then you could be creating aggressive, or shy sharp dogs that don't have a well honed ability to discriminate actual danger from whatever stimuli is going on at the moment. And if you think "well, my dog is nice, and he's healthy, so that won't happen to me" I have news for you....so did everyone who bred their pet GSD and created poor pups with fear issues and weak bodies that required thousands of $$ to fix (or an early grave, that being the only other option). No one really thinks they are creating problem dogs when they indiscriminately breed their pet. And yet temperament and health issues have become an enormous problem in this breed (and indiscriminate breeding is the biggest cause) No one really thinks they won't be able to sell, or give away every puppy to a lifetime home. And yet, the shelters are filled to capacity (yes, even with rescue pulling GSDs from shelters across the country every day). Please rethink your decision. Tara |
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Looking for a female German Shepherd
diddy wrote:
in thread news:yftVg.7$HP.6@trndny08: "TaraG" whittled the following words: wrote in message ups.com... I brought a German shepherd dog from Moscow and he is now 2 years old. I want to find him a girlfriend, but don't know where to start. His parents are show dogs, but we never showed Graff. Need some advice on how to go about finding him a girl. If you aren't even willing to show him (or trial him in ANY German Shepherd related working events), then why would you consider breeding him? There is no shortage of Shepherds in rescue that were the result of poorly thought out "Pet" breedings. In fact, the rescues have far more of these than they can handle. I agree about the health testing, but is health testing in place in Russia? It would be nice to start, but without a coalition of breeders agreeing to do this, it really doesn't say anything about bloodlines until there is a database. And are there a lot of rescue dogs in Russia? Or does this otherwise excellent advice even apply to the OP? The OP is apparently no longer in Russia. If the dog was well bred in Europe, I'd think he should have SV papers. If he isn't from an SV registered litter, it would raise a big red flag in my mind in terms of potential breeding. I'm sure he's a nice pet, but breed-worthiness is another thing altogether. |
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Looking for a female German Shepherd
in thread news:hduVg.2$K11.0@trndny07: "Janet Puistonen"
whittled the following words: diddy wrote: in thread news:yftVg.7$HP.6@trndny08: "TaraG" whittled the following words: wrote in message ups.com... I brought a German shepherd dog from Moscow and he is now 2 years old. I want to find him a girlfriend, but don't know where to start. His parents are show dogs, but we never showed Graff. Need some advice on how to go about finding him a girl. If you aren't even willing to show him (or trial him in ANY German Shepherd related working events), then why would you consider breeding him? There is no shortage of Shepherds in rescue that were the result of poorly thought out "Pet" breedings. In fact, the rescues have far more of these than they can handle. I agree about the health testing, but is health testing in place in Russia? It would be nice to start, but without a coalition of breeders agreeing to do this, it really doesn't say anything about bloodlines until there is a database. And are there a lot of rescue dogs in Russia? Or does this otherwise excellent advice even apply to the OP? The OP is apparently no longer in Russia. If the dog was well bred in Europe, I'd think he should have SV papers. If he isn't from an SV registered litter, it would raise a big red flag in my mind in terms of potential breeding. I'm sure he's a nice pet, but breed-worthiness is another thing altogether. The OP is obviously no longer in Moscow. But I couldn't seewhere they stated they left the country. Not being familiar with the registration and testing standards there,I felt this was a valid question. I'll go back and read to see where they left Russia.I just must have missed it. |
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Looking for a female German Shepherd
diddy wrote:
The OP is obviously no longer in Moscow. But I couldn't seewhere they stated they left the country. Not being familiar with the registration and testing standards there,I felt this was a valid question. I'll go back and read to see where they left Russia.I just must have missed it. She's posting through a Southwest Bell server, for what it's worth. -- Shelly (Warning: see label for details) http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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Looking for a female German Shepherd
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shelly wrote: She's posting through a Southwest Bell server, for what it's worth. Heck, we can do better than that - residential DSL in Irvine, CA. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Melinda Shore wrote:
In article , shelly wrote: She's posting through a Southwest Bell server, for what it's worth. Heck, we can do better than that - residential DSL in Irvine, CA. Well, duh! If I'd taken two seconds to contemplate what irvca meant... -- Shelly (Warning: see label for details) http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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Looking for a female German Shepherd
"diddy" wrote in message ... in thread news:yftVg.7$HP.6@trndny08: "TaraG" whittled the following words: wrote in message ups.com... I brought a German shepherd dog from Moscow and he is now 2 years old. I want to find him a girlfriend, but don't know where to start. His parents are show dogs, but we never showed Graff. Need some advice on how to go about finding him a girl. If you aren't even willing to show him (or trial him in ANY German Shepherd related working events), then why would you consider breeding him? There is no shortage of Shepherds in rescue that were the result of poorly thought out "Pet" breedings. In fact, the rescues have far more of these than they can handle. I agree about the health testing, but is health testing in place in Russia? It would be nice to start, but without a coalition of breeders agreeing to do this, it really doesn't say anything about bloodlines until there is a database. And are there a lot of rescue dogs in Russia? Or does this otherwise excellent advice even apply to the OP? Anytime someone is contemplating breeding their untested pet, this advice applies. If you notice, I also mentioned (*stressed* actually) temperament issues. Whether or not the greater GSD community is testing for health issues, I'm unclear as to how potentially breeding Shepherds with aggressive or overly fearful temperaments is a good thing no matter *what* country the OP is in. Tara |
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Looking for a female German Shepherd
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message: Heck, we can do better than that - residential DSL in Irvine, CA. Well, that makes it easier. If the OP is looking for a companion GSD for her male, there are a ton of GSD rescues in the area. http://www.coastalgsr.org/ is just one place to look. If you are considering getting a companion to breed to your dog, please reconsider. There are a ton of GSD rescues in that area for a reason, and I can assure you that many, many more die in shelters than the rescues are able to pull. Volunteer with your local GSD rescue, and you will see just how dire the situation is. The one I volunteer with is across the country from you, but in any given week, there are 8 or 10 dogs that will die if we don't pull them, and this doesn't count the many that are waiting to come in but aren't in immediate danger of being put down. Suja |
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Looking for a female German Shepherd
Janet Puistonen wrote:
diddy wrote: in thread news:yftVg.7$HP.6@trndny08: "TaraG" whittled the following words: wrote in message ups.com... I brought a German shepherd dog from Moscow and he is now 2 years old. I want to find him a girlfriend, but don't know where to start. His parents are show dogs, but we never showed Graff. Need some advice on how to go about finding him a girl. If you aren't even willing to show him (or trial him in ANY German Shepherd related working events), then why would you consider breeding him? There is no shortage of Shepherds in rescue that were the result of poorly thought out "Pet" breedings. In fact, the rescues have far more of these than they can handle. I agree about the health testing, but is health testing in place in Russia? It would be nice to start, but without a coalition of breeders agreeing to do this, it really doesn't say anything about bloodlines until there is a database. And are there a lot of rescue dogs in Russia? Or does this otherwise excellent advice even apply to the OP? The OP is apparently no longer in Russia. If the dog was well bred in Europe, I'd think he should have SV papers. If he isn't from an SV registered litter, it would raise a big red flag in my mind in terms of potential breeding. I'm sure he's a nice pet, but breed-worthiness is another thing altogether. Rereading this, I realize that the OP said the parents were "show dogs." That probably means SV if the parents were not from the US. So it is likely that the dog is well bred. That's a start. Proving his own breedworthiness is another matter. The OP should realize that if the dog is not evaluated as offically "breed worthy" by the SV, then any litters he sired wouldn't be registerable. |
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