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Old September 1st 03, 03:28 PM
Orchid
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:29:18 -0400, "Altshuler, Julie" "Altshuler,
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You don't have to be a "good" breeder to be a good Labradoodle Breeder.
You could even be someone as amazingly stupid as yourself and be a good
breeder to benefit from hybrid vigor and here's why:


Crossbred dogs are not hybrids. Hybrids are the offspring of
significantly genetically different organisms, such as species or
subspecies. Dog breeds are not significantly genetically different in
this manner -- in this way they are akin to human races. A mixed-race
child isn't a hybrid, and neither is a mixed-breed dog. Hyrbids are
often marked by sterility, as well.
A mule is a hybrid (horse x donkey), a foundation Bengal cat
is a hybrid (domestic cat x Asian Leopard Cat), a 'Labradoodle' is
not.

"Producing HYBRIDS in the agricultural and animal husbandry industries
has been done for decades because of their high yields, genetic disease
resistance and generally more robust individuals. In dogs, this Hybrid
VIGOR (Heterosis) also carries through. When hybridizing with stable and
well-tempered purebreds, litters are produced with all the above
qualities and typically, a more mellow temperament. Genetic defects that
may be common to some purebreds are not commonly seen in the HYBRID dogs
(possible yes, but not common). For example, eye and epilepsy conditions
are rarely seen in Cock-A-Poos; skin allergy conditions are rarely seen
in Westie-Poos; and hip dysplasia conditions are rarely seen in the
large-breed HYBRIDS. Since defects in different purebreds ARE different,
they tend to neutralize negative things and compensate each other in the
hybrid."

http://www.petsandmore.ca/vdogPooCrosses.html


This is completely false, and considering that the source is a
mill for cutesy-named mutts, I'm not surprised.




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Old September 1st 03, 05:04 PM
Altshuler, Julie
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BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!!!!

much like Melanie Lee Chang, you don't know anything about biology either.

Orchid wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 00:29:18 -0400, "Altshuler, Julie" "Altshuler,
wrote:



You don't have to be a "good" breeder to be a good Labradoodle Breeder.
You could even be someone as amazingly stupid as yourself and be a good
breeder to benefit from hybrid vigor and here's why:



Crossbred dogs are not hybrids. Hybrids are the offspring of
significantly genetically different organisms, such as species or
subspecies. Dog breeds are not significantly genetically different in
this manner -- in this way they are akin to human races. A mixed-race
child isn't a hybrid, and neither is a mixed-breed dog. Hyrbids are
often marked by sterility, as well.
A mule is a hybrid (horse x donkey), a foundation Bengal cat
is a hybrid (domestic cat x Asian Leopard Cat), a 'Labradoodle' is
not.


"Producing HYBRIDS in the agricultural and animal husbandry industries
has been done for decades because of their high yields, genetic disease
resistance and generally more robust individuals. In dogs, this Hybrid
VIGOR (Heterosis) also carries through. When hybridizing with stable and
well-tempered purebreds, litters are produced with all the above
qualities and typically, a more mellow temperament. Genetic defects that
may be common to some purebreds are not commonly seen in the HYBRID dogs
(possible yes, but not common). For example, eye and epilepsy conditions
are rarely seen in Cock-A-Poos; skin allergy conditions are rarely seen
in Westie-Poos; and hip dysplasia conditions are rarely seen in the
large-breed HYBRIDS. Since defects in different purebreds ARE different,
they tend to neutralize negative things and compensate each other in the
hybrid."

http://www.petsandmore.ca/vdogPooCrosses.html



This is completely false, and considering that the source is a
mill for cutesy-named mutts, I'm not surprised.




Orchid

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Old September 1st 03, 05:27 PM
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:04:31 -0400, "Altshuler, Julie" "Altshuler,
wrote:

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!!!!


much like Melanie Lee Chang, you don't know anything about biology either.


Hybrid -- (Genetics) The offspring of genetically dissimilar parents
or stock, especially the offspring produced by breeding plants or
animals of different species, or races.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition



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Old September 1st 03, 05:52 PM
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Orchid wrote:

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:04:31 -0400, "Altshuler, Julie" "Altshuler,
wrote:


BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!!!!



much like Melanie Lee Chang, you don't know anything about biology either.



Hybrid -- (Genetics) The offspring of genetically dissimilar parents
or stock, especially the offspring produced by breeding plants or
animals of different species, or races.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition


I don't have time to explain biology to you, but here's a link for you,
and I've got hundreds more if you can't understand this one. Just let me
know. Thanks

http://www.ag.fvsu.edu/html/publicat...nter/getz4.htm



ALtshuler Julie




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Old September 2nd 03, 10:42 PM
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Orchid- are you aware that you're corresponding with Mikey, NOT Julia
Altshuler? He's using her name on his headers to avoid killfiles. :-P


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Old September 3rd 03, 01:39 AM
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sionnach wrote:

Orchid- are you aware that you're corresponding with Mikey, NOT Julia
Altshuler? He's using her name on his headers to avoid killfiles. :-P



No.....?

Are you aware that you're a 40something 4 foot 11 pipsqueak with a bowl
head haircut who still lives with her parents?

BWHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!

you got anything to add to the discussion or are you just going to sit
there and yap senselessly like an attack chihuahua, as per usual?


Michael
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Old September 3rd 03, 02:38 AM
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 17:42:12 -0400, "sionnach"
wrote:

Orchid- are you aware that you're corresponding with Mikey, NOT Julia
Altshuler? He's using her name on his headers to avoid killfiles. :-P


Doh! I thought the lunatic, ill-informed rhetoric sounded
familiar.


Off to go write 'I will not feed the trolls' a hundred times on the
blackboard!



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Old September 3rd 03, 02:48 AM
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Orchid wrote:

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 17:42:12 -0400, "sionnach"
wrote:


Orchid- are you aware that you're corresponding with Mikey, NOT Julia
Altshuler? He's using her name on his headers to avoid killfiles. :-P



Doh! I thought the lunatic, ill-informed rhetoric sounded
familiar.


Off to go write 'I will not feed the trolls' a hundred times on the
blackboard!



why don't you try to feed your brain and you won't be so stupid. That's
all I ask.

have a nice day.

michael
live...
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Old September 3rd 03, 05:47 PM
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BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!!!!


much like Melanie Lee Chang, you don't know anything about biology either.


Hybrid -- (Genetics) The offspring of genetically dissimilar parents
or stock, especially the offspring produced by breeding plants or
animals of different species, or races.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition



Orchid

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Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid



FYI, if you go to www.m-w.com, you get this definition:

Main Entry: hy·brid
Pronunciation: 'hI-br&d
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin hybrida
Date: 1601
1 : an offspring of two animals or plants of different races, breeds,
varieties, species, or genera
2 : a person whose background is a blend of two diverse cultures or
traditions
3 a : something heterogeneous in origin or composition : COMPOSITE
artificial hybrids of DNA and RNA a hybrid of medieval and
Renaissance styles b : something (as a power plant, vehicle, or
electronic circuit) that has two different types of components
performing essentially the same function
- hybrid adjective
- hy·brid·ism /-br&-"di-z&m/ noun
- hy·brid·i·ty /hI-'bri-d&-tE/ noun
 




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