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Old October 10th 03, 01:45 AM
Dick Estep
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To the President of the Dalmatian Club of America: Dr. Charles Garvin. On
your website you warn people that 12% of all Dalmatians are born deaf and
should be euthanised and that: "Too many children have faced the plastic
surgeon's knife after innocently touching a sleeping, deaf dog... a dog
which in every other way was the most perfect pet imaginable. DEAF DOGS ARE
POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS."
When questioned about this, Dr. Garvin, you defended the continued breeding
and killing of one in eight Dalmatian puppys (thousands in a year) for the
protection of children and the "betterment of the Dalmatian breed." We feel
this practice is unethical, immoral, and illogical when the end result is
only to perfect a companion dog.
There are a multitude of dog breeds available today that aren't prone to
being dangerous to children and of which nearly 100% of the puppies born are
viable and well suited for companions. This petition has been formed to ask
your club to put a moratorium on the breeding and slaughter until a positive
DNA test is available for your breeding dogs!
It is hoped this petition will also serve to educate parents of this danger
to their innocent children. We feel it's unethical and immoral to breed and
promote ANY breed of animal of which you advise that approximately 1/8 of
them be killed for the safety of children!
Thank you!
Petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/skip/petition.html
Delphi Forum:
http://forums.prospero.com/humane/start
Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stopki...nnocentpuppies




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Old October 12th 03, 04:24 AM
Jana
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"Too many children have faced the plastic
surgeon's knife after innocently touching a sleeping, deaf dog... a dog
which in every other way was the most perfect pet imaginable. DEAF DOGS ARE
POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS."

.....
There are a multitude of dog breeds available today that aren't prone to
being dangerous to children and of which nearly 100% of the puppies born are
viable and well suited for companions.



I can only sort of agree with this petition. The focus of it seems
wrong to me - instead of putting a moratorium on breeding, what about
putting a moratorium on breeders who kill puppies because they "might"
bite a child. Deaf dogs can be good pets, just as blind dogs can.
Automatically killing the defective ones does nothing for the breed,
especially if the parents or littermates of the deaf ones are still
considered for breeding. It's only stuffing the problem under a bush.
There is a thing called BAER testing, which many breeders do but
many do not. Brainstem Autidory Evoked Response
(http://www.lsu.edu/deafness/baerexpl.htm) is a necessity to detect
dogs that are deaf in one ear - they usually compensate so well it's
difficult to tell which ear is deaf, or either.
I won't sign the petition. I think there should be one, directed at
the DCOA (and to a lesser extent the AKC), to educate breeders - not
just club members, but all breeders, as well as the general public who
may be interested in a Dal as a pet; and enforce mandatory testing of
all registered dogs (maybe as a prerequisite for registration), even
those not used for breeding. An aggressive response is what is needed
- directed at the problem and how to end it, not at the "innocent
puppies" that the Club and the petition says ought to die. Possibly
funding for research on a DNA marker would be beneficial, but for now
the BAER is the breeder's best tool, not fearmongering and
misconceptions.

Jana
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Old October 12th 03, 04:24 AM
Jana
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"Too many children have faced the plastic
surgeon's knife after innocently touching a sleeping, deaf dog... a dog
which in every other way was the most perfect pet imaginable. DEAF DOGS ARE
POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS."

.....
There are a multitude of dog breeds available today that aren't prone to
being dangerous to children and of which nearly 100% of the puppies born are
viable and well suited for companions.



I can only sort of agree with this petition. The focus of it seems
wrong to me - instead of putting a moratorium on breeding, what about
putting a moratorium on breeders who kill puppies because they "might"
bite a child. Deaf dogs can be good pets, just as blind dogs can.
Automatically killing the defective ones does nothing for the breed,
especially if the parents or littermates of the deaf ones are still
considered for breeding. It's only stuffing the problem under a bush.
There is a thing called BAER testing, which many breeders do but
many do not. Brainstem Autidory Evoked Response
(http://www.lsu.edu/deafness/baerexpl.htm) is a necessity to detect
dogs that are deaf in one ear - they usually compensate so well it's
difficult to tell which ear is deaf, or either.
I won't sign the petition. I think there should be one, directed at
the DCOA (and to a lesser extent the AKC), to educate breeders - not
just club members, but all breeders, as well as the general public who
may be interested in a Dal as a pet; and enforce mandatory testing of
all registered dogs (maybe as a prerequisite for registration), even
those not used for breeding. An aggressive response is what is needed
- directed at the problem and how to end it, not at the "innocent
puppies" that the Club and the petition says ought to die. Possibly
funding for research on a DNA marker would be beneficial, but for now
the BAER is the breeder's best tool, not fearmongering and
misconceptions.

Jana
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Old October 12th 03, 04:24 AM
Jana
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"Too many children have faced the plastic
surgeon's knife after innocently touching a sleeping, deaf dog... a dog
which in every other way was the most perfect pet imaginable. DEAF DOGS ARE
POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS."

.....
There are a multitude of dog breeds available today that aren't prone to
being dangerous to children and of which nearly 100% of the puppies born are
viable and well suited for companions.



I can only sort of agree with this petition. The focus of it seems
wrong to me - instead of putting a moratorium on breeding, what about
putting a moratorium on breeders who kill puppies because they "might"
bite a child. Deaf dogs can be good pets, just as blind dogs can.
Automatically killing the defective ones does nothing for the breed,
especially if the parents or littermates of the deaf ones are still
considered for breeding. It's only stuffing the problem under a bush.
There is a thing called BAER testing, which many breeders do but
many do not. Brainstem Autidory Evoked Response
(http://www.lsu.edu/deafness/baerexpl.htm) is a necessity to detect
dogs that are deaf in one ear - they usually compensate so well it's
difficult to tell which ear is deaf, or either.
I won't sign the petition. I think there should be one, directed at
the DCOA (and to a lesser extent the AKC), to educate breeders - not
just club members, but all breeders, as well as the general public who
may be interested in a Dal as a pet; and enforce mandatory testing of
all registered dogs (maybe as a prerequisite for registration), even
those not used for breeding. An aggressive response is what is needed
- directed at the problem and how to end it, not at the "innocent
puppies" that the Club and the petition says ought to die. Possibly
funding for research on a DNA marker would be beneficial, but for now
the BAER is the breeder's best tool, not fearmongering and
misconceptions.

Jana
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Old October 12th 03, 02:35 PM
Mary Peret
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"Dick Estep" wrote in message
...
To the President of the Dalmatian Club of America: Dr. Charles Garvin. On
your website you warn people that 12% of all Dalmatians are born deaf and
should be euthanised and that: "Too many children have faced the plastic
surgeon's knife after innocently touching a sleeping, deaf dog... a dog
which in every other way was the most perfect pet imaginable. DEAF DOGS

ARE
POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS."
When questioned about this, Dr. Garvin, you defended the continued

breeding
and killing of one in eight Dalmatian puppys (thousands in a year) for the
protection of children and the "betterment of the Dalmatian breed." We

feel
this practice is unethical, immoral, and illogical when the end result is
only to perfect a companion dog.


I'm responding in general to the idea that deaf dogs are deemed dangerous to
children by someone who ought to know better.

Any dog is potentially dangerous. Deaf dogs can be excellent family dogs
and companions. Children should be taught to respect the family dog(s),
including not bothering them when they are asleep. Any sleeping dog, deaf
blind or otherwise, when woken suddenly can react in a negative manner
Mary



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Old October 12th 03, 02:35 PM
Mary Peret
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"Dick Estep" wrote in message
...
To the President of the Dalmatian Club of America: Dr. Charles Garvin. On
your website you warn people that 12% of all Dalmatians are born deaf and
should be euthanised and that: "Too many children have faced the plastic
surgeon's knife after innocently touching a sleeping, deaf dog... a dog
which in every other way was the most perfect pet imaginable. DEAF DOGS

ARE
POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS."
When questioned about this, Dr. Garvin, you defended the continued

breeding
and killing of one in eight Dalmatian puppys (thousands in a year) for the
protection of children and the "betterment of the Dalmatian breed." We

feel
this practice is unethical, immoral, and illogical when the end result is
only to perfect a companion dog.


I'm responding in general to the idea that deaf dogs are deemed dangerous to
children by someone who ought to know better.

Any dog is potentially dangerous. Deaf dogs can be excellent family dogs
and companions. Children should be taught to respect the family dog(s),
including not bothering them when they are asleep. Any sleeping dog, deaf
blind or otherwise, when woken suddenly can react in a negative manner
Mary



  #7  
Old October 12th 03, 02:35 PM
Mary Peret
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"Dick Estep" wrote in message
...
To the President of the Dalmatian Club of America: Dr. Charles Garvin. On
your website you warn people that 12% of all Dalmatians are born deaf and
should be euthanised and that: "Too many children have faced the plastic
surgeon's knife after innocently touching a sleeping, deaf dog... a dog
which in every other way was the most perfect pet imaginable. DEAF DOGS

ARE
POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS."
When questioned about this, Dr. Garvin, you defended the continued

breeding
and killing of one in eight Dalmatian puppys (thousands in a year) for the
protection of children and the "betterment of the Dalmatian breed." We

feel
this practice is unethical, immoral, and illogical when the end result is
only to perfect a companion dog.


I'm responding in general to the idea that deaf dogs are deemed dangerous to
children by someone who ought to know better.

Any dog is potentially dangerous. Deaf dogs can be excellent family dogs
and companions. Children should be taught to respect the family dog(s),
including not bothering them when they are asleep. Any sleeping dog, deaf
blind or otherwise, when woken suddenly can react in a negative manner
Mary



 




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