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Old December 21st 06, 09:43 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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I am posting here to ask that you take part in a campaign I have
started, to set up a national blood bank for dogs and cats in the UK

A strange request you ask, but this affects me personally..


We recently lost our gorgeous spollie (springer spanial/collie X) Slick
to a very severe form of canine anaemia.

The treatment he was being given for this horrible disease involved
very strong steroid treatment (4 - 6 months), which he was taking in
conjunction with very frequent blood transfusions.

For the initial transfusion, our vet was able to contact the owner of
one of their "doggy donors" to arrange for the blood to be taken. But,
as this was to be a long term situation, our vet asked that we source
the blood ourselves, as the "doggy donors" they had on their list were
limited in numbers, and may be required for other dogs (a dog can only
donate blood once every 3 months, as they need sufficient time to
recover)

For you and I, if we have an operation/are in an accident etc, there is
blood stored by the national blood service that can be called upon for
your use.

Despite having been petitioned on several occasions by the PDSA, DEFRA
have decided that the equivalent can not be set up for "non-food
animals" and so every time Slick needed a transfusion we had to go
through the rigmarole of sourcing the blood ourselves..


Recently a national register of owner details has gone on-line
(www.dogblooddonors.com (http://www.dogblooddonors.com)) , but as it is
in its infancy, there were no dogs on there that could have helped
Slick at this time


How do I take part you say?

Well it's simple, I have set up a petition that has the desired outcome
that a national blood bank is set up in the UK for non-food animals

I ask you to sign this petition and send it on to as many people as you
can think of. I will be presenting this to the Minister for Animal
Welfare at the end of February 2007

link to petition -

http://www.petitionthem.com/default....etail&pet=3600
(http://www.petitionthem.com/default....etail&pet=3600)

This I hope will leave something in place as a legacy to a much loved
family member that fought as best he might

Thank you for your time

Sam Beavis

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Old December 21st 06, 01:08 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
buglady
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"SamBeavis" wrote in message
ups.com...
I am posting here to ask that you take part in a campaign I have
started, to set up a national blood bank for dogs and cats in the UK


..........I wish you luck, but doubt the UK would listen to anyone from the
colonies.........

buglady
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Old December 21st 06, 10:19 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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SamBeavis wrote:
For the initial transfusion, our vet was able to contact the owner of
one of their "doggy donors" to arrange for the blood to be taken. But,
as this was to be a long term situation, our vet asked that we source
the blood ourselves, as the "doggy donors" they had on their list were
limited in numbers, and may be required for other dogs (a dog can only
donate blood once every 3 months, as they need sufficient time to
recover)


This is incorrect. A dog can donate blood every 28 days.

Mustang Sally

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Old December 22nd 06, 01:49 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:28:52 -0600, diddy
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This is incorrect. A dog can donate blood every 28 days.

Mustang Sally



maybe in the PETA-Hugging UK, it's restricted to every three months?


I'm surprised they even allow dogs to donate blood in the UK.

Mustang Sally

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Old December 22nd 06, 09:34 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
SamBeavis
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I'm happy to bow down to your knowledge on this, but when Slick was
being treated we were advised by our veterinary consultant that we
could only re-use donor dogs every 3 months to allow them time to
recover

Don't know if this is a UK thing perhaps?

Sam

sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:28:52 -0600, diddy
wrote:

This is incorrect. A dog can donate blood every 28 days.

Mustang Sally


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Old December 22nd 06, 02:55 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On 22 Dec 2006 01:34:43 -0800, "SamBeavis"
wrote:

I'm happy to bow down to your knowledge on this, but when Slick was
being treated we were advised by our veterinary consultant that we
could only re-use donor dogs every 3 months to allow them time to
recover


Well, my greyhounds are regular blood donors, and the veterinary
specialist (hematologist/oncologist) said they can donate every 28
days. We rest them longer than that unless there's an emergency, but
it isn't necessary to.

Don't know if this is a UK thing perhaps?


What, UK dogs take longer to recover? The way things are going on
these newsgroups lately, it's probably just a matter of UK vets being
sure they know more than US vets.

Mustang Sally


sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:28:52 -0600, diddy
wrote:

This is incorrect. A dog can donate blood every 28 days.

Mustang Sally


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Old December 22nd 06, 03:02 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
Melinda Shore
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In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
What, UK dogs take longer to recover?


Thinner blood over there, dontcha know.

Kidding (or am I?). Anyway, I've been struck by the amount
of variability in treatment practices in dentists and
doctors in the US. Some are just plain more conservative/
careful. Other countries (than the US) tend to favor more
uniform standards and I guess it's not that surprising that
they might also tend towards greater caution. Combine the
two and you've got a policy.
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Old December 22nd 06, 03:55 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:17:14 -0600, diddy
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in thread : sighthounds &
siberians whittled the following words:


Don't know if this is a UK thing perhaps?


What, UK dogs take longer to recover? The way things are going on
these newsgroups lately, it's probably just a matter of UK vets being
sure they know more than US vets.

Mustang Sally


No, Animal Rightists just making sure a dog has recovered fully. Thus
insuring that other dogs die while waiting the full three months.


Either that, or they'd need a whole lot of donor dogs.

As far as UK vets knowing more than US vets, I have no doubt that's a fact
too. UK "anything" is better than those lowly "colonies" Don't cha know!


If there's one thing I've learned from years on these newsgroups, it's
that.

Mustang Sally

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Old December 22nd 06, 04:05 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health
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"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message
...
As far as UK vets knowing more than US vets, I have no doubt that's a

fact
too. UK "anything" is better than those lowly "colonies" Don't cha know!


If there's one thing I've learned from years on these newsgroups, it's
that.


...........Quite frankly I've never seen that attitude expressed here (where
vets rarely post) or over in alt.med.veterinary. So if you're hauling it in
from somewhere else, perhaps it's best if you leave it at the door. I can't
see any reason for anyone to have jumped on the OP for something his vet
told him.
buglady
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