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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
Hello,
I need some advice on how to control my pitbull Roxy. She has always been a very sweet and loving dog, never abused, never neglected. In fact I think I might have been too attentive to her, and now she has ME trained. She is very energectic and playful, but she is a pitbull and she will jump on company, sometimes growl at certain people (usually if they are wearing a hat), and she has recently started nipping. I am very concerned that she might bite someone thinking she is playing, and have to be put down. She has become completely out of control, and I am at the end of my rope. Yesterday someone mentioned a pitbull rescue foundation and I started crying. She doesn't need to be rescued, I just don't know how to calm her down. Basically Roxy like a child to me, and I would never want to do anything to harm her, and could never ever send her off to some rescue ranch. It would be no good for either of us. I sent her to a training school for 2 weeks called Command Performance and when she came home she seemed to be just fine, she no longer jumped, she was very calm, and I think just happy to be home, but her behavior has reverted and I am scared. I did some research on shock collars, and I really don't think I want to use one on her but it looks like it might be my last resort. They seem to be effective (or so the reviews say) I just don't know howhumane they are. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated, something has to be done soon otherwise I will have to find her a new home. Thank you |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
"KateMossberg" wrote in
oups.com: I sent her to a training school for 2 weeks called Command Performance and when she came home she seemed to be just fine, she no longer jumped, she was very calm, and I think just happy to be home, (I am going to be blunt here. keep in mind this is MY opinion only) This was a big mistake. I abhor the notion of sending a dog off for basic obedience. There are many reasons for boarding and training, but basic obedience is simply not one of them. The fact that this is pretty much all they do (I believe I found the right web site) is of concern. YOU need to learn how to train and handle YOUR dog. Period. You need to practice your commands, you need to consistantly exercise your dog sufficiently. It all starts and ends with you. If anyone else says they can take your totally untrained dog and hand you back a fully trained dog that requires very little work on your part, they are, quite simply, lying. I have done *plenty* of boarding and training. My own focus tends to be on specific behavioral problems, or helping owners overcome a training obstacle they are having difficulty achieving success with. Even then, the plan of action I give to them when I hand over their dog is *equally* as important as the work I've done. but her behavior has reverted and I am scared. I can understand that. I did some research on shock collars, and I really don't think I want to use one on her but it looks like it might be my last resort. I would absolutely try a first resort first. And actual training class that YOU attend with your dog. If a class isn't appropriate, then try privates. Or a good book that you actually *follow*. They seem to be effective (or so the reviews say) I just don't know howhumane they are. It sounds like you've done little to no actual training of this dog yourself. If that's the case, I think this would be absolutely inhumane, and would very likely ruin your dog's temperament. You have to learn about praise, rewards (I wasn't all that thrilled with the training center's lack of understanding about food or other concrete rewards besides praise. I don't care if they believe what they believe, but they clearly haven't got the first clue about how rewards like that work in the first place, so I'd have preferred if they hadn't commented on it), timing, controlling resources....all stuff that's involved in training. Slapping an ecollar on your dog because you let her training slide would be, IMO, horribly unfair. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated, something has to be done soon otherwise I will have to find her a new home. Go. Find an obedience club. ASAP. As in yesterday. Learn how to work *with* your dog. Tara |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
"KateMossberg" wrote :
...She is very energectic and playful, but she is a pitbull and she will jump on company, Don't let her do that. sometimes growl at certain people (usually if they are wearing a hat), Really, don't let her do that. and she has recently started nipping. See above. ...She has become completely out of control, and I am at the end of my rope. Set boundaries. Train. Supervise interactions. Train some more. Channel her energy into activities you can do together. Oh, and yes, you might consider training your dog. Basically Roxy like a child to me, and I would never want to do anything to harm her, Then TRAIN her. Teaching children and dogs how to live in human society is the barest minimun expected of a parent or owner. Love without guidance isn't going to keep her out of trouble, or you out of court. I did some research on shock collars, and I really don't think I want to use one on her but it looks like it might be my last resort. I'm whiffing something that seems somewhat ... trollish. But, in case it's my sniffer that's off, let's continue. Use whatever equipment you are comfortable and capable of employing -- for the most part, YOU are doing the training, not the equipment. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated, something has to be done soon otherwise I will have to find her a new home. That might be Roxy's best bet. Unless, of course, you decide to TRAIN her. |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
Kate,
This dog is not for you. She is getting dangerous and you don't want to live with the guilt of him mauling or killing someone. Surrender her and get yourself a more adapted breed that you can controll. This is not cruel, this is humane to you, to the people surrounding you and to you dog (that will be destroyed if she ever attaks someone). There is nothing wrong in acceptiong the fact that you made a mistake by taking this type of dof in the first place. Not many people have the ability to safely handle a pitbull, especially not one that has such dominering traits. It is beyond training. You are afraid of this dog - rightly so - and he knows it. He will never respect you enough to give you a safe amount of control on him. It's still time to do the right thing. I hope that you will. If you would like more support, feel free to e-mail me. Good luck Yasmine On Jan 25, 10:45 am, "KateMossberg" wrote: Hello, I need some advice on how to control my pitbull Roxy. She has always been a very sweet and loving dog, never abused, never neglected. In fact I think I might have been too attentive to her, and now she has ME trained. She is very energectic and playful, but she is a pitbull and she will jump on company, sometimes growl at certain people (usually if they are wearing a hat), and she has recently started nipping. I am very concerned that she might bite someone thinking she is playing, and have to be put down. She has become completely out of control, and I am at the end of my rope. Yesterday someone mentioned a pitbull rescue foundation and I started crying. She doesn't need to be rescued, I just don't know how to calm her down. Basically Roxy like a child to me, and I would never want to do anything to harm her, and could never ever send her off to some rescue ranch. It would be no good for either of us. I sent her to a training school for 2 weeks called Command Performance and when she came home she seemed to be just fine, she no longer jumped, she was very calm, and I think just happy to be home, but her behavior has reverted and I am scared. I did some research on shock collars, and I really don't think I want to use one on her but it looks like it might be my last resort. They seem to be effective (or so the reviews say) I just don't know howhumane they are. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated, something has to be done soon otherwise I will have to find her a new home. Thank you |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
In article om,
yukonrider wrote: This is not cruel, this is humane to you, to the people surrounding you and to you dog (that will be destroyed if she ever attaks someone). So far you're 0 for 2 on your advice (or 2 for 2, if what you're counting is *bad* advice). She hasn't trained the dog, and she's getting what you get when you don't train your dog. Giving up on a dog before giving it a chance is a shithead thing to do. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
"Melinda Shore" wrote: So far you're 0 for 2 on your advice (or 2 for 2, if what you're counting is *bad* advice). She hasn't trained the dog, and she's getting what you get when you don't train your dog. Not to mention that it's ridiculous to leap from a description of a young, untrained, and bumptious dog jumping and nipping to the absurd conclusion that the dog "is getting dangerous" and is likely to end up "mauling or killing someone" - especially when the dog happens to be of a breed well-known for LACK of aggression towards humans. |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
"KateMossberg" wrote in message oups.com... Hello, I need some advice on how to control my pitbull Roxy. She has always been a very sweet and loving dog, never abused, never neglected. In fact I think I might have been too attentive to her, and now she has ME trained. She is very energectic and playful, but she is a pitbull and she will jump on company, sometimes growl at certain people (usually if they are wearing a hat), and she has recently started nipping. I am very concerned that she might bite someone thinking she is playing, and have to be put down. She has become completely out of control, and I am at the end of my rope. Yesterday someone mentioned a pitbull rescue foundation and I started crying. She doesn't need to be rescued, I just don't know how to calm her down. Basically Roxy like a child to me, and I would never want to do anything to harm her, and could never ever send her off to some rescue ranch. It would be no good for either of us. I sent her to a training school for 2 weeks called Command Performance and when she came home she seemed to be just fine, she no longer jumped, she was very calm, and I think just happy to be home, but her behavior has reverted and I am scared. I did some research on shock collars, and I really don't think I want to use one on her but it looks like it might be my last resort. They seem to be effective (or so the reviews say) I just don't know howhumane they are. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated, something has to be done soon otherwise I will have to find her a new home. Thank you ============ A couple of suggestions I would offer are to join an obedience training class with her immediately. This will establish you as her leader and you are more apt to have better control of her. Aggressive breeds should always have obedience training. Also, I would walk her twice a day and play outside with her letting her run to rid her of all that pent up energy. It is a lot easier to control a tired relaxed dog than a frustrated energetic playful dog. Until she learns her manners, I would keep her separated from people coming to visit or no one will want to visit you. Either put her in her crate or another room or outside when you have visitors. |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
Before I start thanking people, I would like to say... I came here for
advice, not to be attacked by a mob of opinionated, self-righteous and presumptuous posters. All of this is good advice (mostly) but I do not understand everyone's apparent need to attack me and brand me as incompetent and (in some replies) inhumane. I am taken aback by the amount of belittlement I have encountered just because I was trying to learn something about the heath and saftey of my pet. Those of you who suggested training not only for the dog but for myself, I agree 100% and will look into it. Those of you who suggested that I surrender my pet over to a rescue foundation, why did you even bother responding???? Do you just like the look of your own text? I thank you all for your advice and I will definitely follow up on some of it. PS- Arrogance discounts the credibility of ones character *you know who you are* |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
On 25 Jan 2007 22:32:45 -0800, "KateMossberg"
, clicked their heels and said: Before I start thanking people, I would like to say... I came here for advice, not to be attacked by a mob of opinionated, self-righteous and presumptuous posters. Whoa. I saw ONE loon, as the other resident loon is filtered. Others gave GOOD advice, so I'm not sure where the "mob" was. Training classes for both of you, and be a leader instead of thinking of her as your child. Both will go a very long way. Good luck and stick with it - things WILL get better with work. -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Need advice PLEASE!! My dog is out of control
Kate,
Do no give up on Roxy. She obviously has the upper hand with you and she knows it and will take advantage of it. I think the obedience training class is a good idea. I would like to add that it is most important that you select the class carefully. Hopefully, have a meeting with the trainer before taking Roxy to class. Share your concerns and issues. I am not trying to scare you off, but if you can't control her and stroll into class and she is dog aggressive or worse yet human aggressive you could meet with disaster. There are ways of going at it and you can do it!!!!!! I have two Pit Bull mixes and though they are totally different. Each of them are the light of my life. Hang in there and best of luck with Roxy!!!!!! Be Free.....Judy |
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