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Old January 29th 07, 04:45 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.misc
Uncle Nobby
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Hi

I have an 11 month old Dobermann bitch.
She came into season at about 8 months old and as normal her rear swelled
but she didn't discharge much in the way of blood.
However to the end of her season she started with urine incontinent, the vet
gave us some drops which sorted it, eventually she was weaned off the drug.

This corresponded with a phantom pregnancy which made her milk glands quite
heavy and large, she was also very quiet, sleeping all day and showing no
interest in much, she also stopped eating.
I took her back to the vet and he said just wait and the phantom pregnancy,
and symptoms would pass.

However she continued to sleep and not eat much, I wasn't happy and took her
back to the vets.
The vet this time gave her something called Galsop, for five days.
This stopped the phantom pregnancy and resulted in her milk glands reducing
in size and a improvement in mood and eating.

Her next season is 3 to 4 months off but again her milk glands and nipples
have started to get large.
They look quite heavy and one side hangs more than the other.
I have taken her to the vets and he said he could give her some Galsop but
he wasn't in favour of this.
He suggested getting her spayed as this could stop some of the problems she
is having.

I am unsure whether to do this or not, I have heard that spaying can alter
the body shape, but I was told that reducing her food would stop this.

Any constructive advise would be great.




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Old January 30th 07, 05:05 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.misc
Spot
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Get her spayed it not only will stop this but cuts her chances of developing
mammary cancer, pyrometra and avoids unwanted puppies in the world.

Personally if she were mine she would have been spayed at 6 months I never
would have left her come into season even the first time.

Celeste

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Hi

I have an 11 month old Dobermann bitch.
She came into season at about 8 months old and as normal her rear swelled
but she didn't discharge much in the way of blood.
However to the end of her season she started with urine incontinent, the
vet gave us some drops which sorted it, eventually she was weaned off the
drug.

This corresponded with a phantom pregnancy which made her milk glands
quite heavy and large, she was also very quiet, sleeping all day and
showing no interest in much, she also stopped eating.
I took her back to the vet and he said just wait and the phantom
pregnancy, and symptoms would pass.

However she continued to sleep and not eat much, I wasn't happy and took
her back to the vets.
The vet this time gave her something called Galsop, for five days.
This stopped the phantom pregnancy and resulted in her milk glands
reducing in size and a improvement in mood and eating.

Her next season is 3 to 4 months off but again her milk glands and nipples
have started to get large.
They look quite heavy and one side hangs more than the other.
I have taken her to the vets and he said he could give her some Galsop but
he wasn't in favour of this.
He suggested getting her spayed as this could stop some of the problems
she is having.

I am unsure whether to do this or not, I have heard that spaying can alter
the body shape, but I was told that reducing her food would stop this.

Any constructive advise would be great.






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Old January 31st 07, 02:18 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.misc
Elizabeth B Naime
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:45:55 -0000, "Uncle Nobby"
wrote:

False pregnancy tends to be a recurring problem -- that is, if she is
not spayed, she is likely to go through this again. And again.

False pregnancies also normally resolve in a week or three, without
much medical intervention.

For these reasons, I'd recommend spaying her; she does not need to go
through this repeatedly! Spaying alone does not change body shape, but
some spayed bitches (and neutered dogs) do need to have their diet and
excercise managed a bit more than they did before the operation. If
you want a personal anecdote, when my smooth Collie bitch was spayed
my vet advised me to keep her on a diet. Not because he thought the
spay would make her fat -- because he found a layer of abdominal fat,
which she was carrying so well that she did not LOOK overweight to
either of us, that was a good deal thicker than it should have been!
We haven't had a surgery to look at her Invisible Fat since, but she
has kept a good figure as best we can tell from the outside.

I have read that spaying DURING a false pregnancy can be a problem, as
can spaying in the 6-8 weeks after estrus (diestrus). Can you get a
second opinion on her treatment? It seems to me that if she will ever
finish the false pregnancy, the best time to spay would be before her
next heat. But that requires that the false pregnancy finish up.
That's why I'd look for a second veterinary opinion if she were mine.
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Old January 31st 07, 10:25 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.health,rec.pets.dogs.misc
Uncle Nobby
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Hi

Thanks for the reply.

She has been in season and then had a phantom pregnancy, which cleared up,
however she is now getting very big underneath.
The vet said she was having another phantom pregnancy hence his advise

He has said he would not spay her until this current phantom pregnancy had
passed.
So he seems to be saying the right things.


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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:45:55 -0000, "Uncle Nobby"
wrote:

False pregnancy tends to be a recurring problem -- that is, if she is
not spayed, she is likely to go through this again. And again.

False pregnancies also normally resolve in a week or three, without
much medical intervention.

For these reasons, I'd recommend spaying her; she does not need to go
through this repeatedly! Spaying alone does not change body shape, but
some spayed bitches (and neutered dogs) do need to have their diet and
excercise managed a bit more than they did before the operation. If
you want a personal anecdote, when my smooth Collie bitch was spayed
my vet advised me to keep her on a diet. Not because he thought the
spay would make her fat -- because he found a layer of abdominal fat,
which she was carrying so well that she did not LOOK overweight to
either of us, that was a good deal thicker than it should have been!
We haven't had a surgery to look at her Invisible Fat since, but she
has kept a good figure as best we can tell from the outside.

I have read that spaying DURING a false pregnancy can be a problem, as
can spaying in the 6-8 weeks after estrus (diestrus). Can you get a
second opinion on her treatment? It seems to me that if she will ever
finish the false pregnancy, the best time to spay would be before her
next heat. But that requires that the false pregnancy finish up.
That's why I'd look for a second veterinary opinion if she were mine.
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