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Correct po' me if I'm wrong: Menu Foods took custom orders from major pet food brands. Each order specified a formula (so much of -this- basic food product, so much of -that- basic food product, etc). And maybe little/no specification for origin or quality control of any of the basic food products. Don't we need to know, at bare minimum, what company was responsible for mixing, packaging, etc the formulation that we are feeding? For instance, who mixed/packaged my 40 lb (DRY) Nutro Nat. Choice Lamb and Rice? Does there exist a list of brand-name pet foods (wet, dry, you name it) -not- mixed etc by Menu Foods? Cheers, Puddin' "Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim." - Bertrand Russell |
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"Puddin' Man" wrote in message news Does there exist a list of brand-name pet foods (wet, dry, you name it) -not- mixed etc by Menu Foods? Menufoods only makes canned (wet) food. As for your question, nope there's nothing on the label that tells you who actually made the food. Interesting in getting the label laws changed? What do you think ought to be on there? People are talking about it. www.petconnection.com www.howl911.com buglady take out the dog before replying |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:08:48 GMT, "buglady" wrote:
"Puddin' Man" wrote in message news Does there exist a list of brand-name pet foods (wet, dry, you name it) -not- mixed etc by Menu Foods? Menufoods only makes canned (wet) food. Thanks. I'd not heard that. Amazing how they (i.e. mass-media) manage to neglect reporting certain potentially important facts. As for your question, nope there's nothing on the label that tells you who actually made the food. Interesting in getting the label laws changed? Yes. In the US, it would be Dept. of Agriculture? FDA? What do you think ought to be on there? At bare minimum, the name of the contractor responsible for acquiring, mixing, packaging the formulation? People are talking about it. Nary, nary do I wonder why. If we could *implicitly* trust the (pet food) industry, the Menu Foods fiasco couldn't have happened. Begs the question, who "made" my Nutro NC Lamb/Rice (dry)? Anybody know? Thx, P www.petconnection.com www.howl911.com buglady take out the dog before replying "Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim." - Bertrand Russell |
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Puddin' Man Pudding Dot Man At Gmail Dot Com wrote: Thanks. I'd not heard that. Amazing how they (i.e. mass-media) manage to neglect reporting certain potentially important facts. Even if you knew where the ingredients were assembled into food, you still don't/wouldn't know where the ingredients came from. At bare minimum, the name of the contractor responsible for acquiring, mixing, packaging the formulation? You're aware that they'd have to print new bags or labels whenever they swapped manufacturers, right? If we could *implicitly* trust the (pet food) industry, the Menu Foods fiasco couldn't have happened. I don't think it's possible to achieve 100% safety, but the industry can surely do better. Doing better, however, costs money. How much extra would you be willing to pay for manufacturer labels? Ingredient manufacturer labels? Ingredient origin labels? There's a cost/safety tradeoff - where do you sit along that curve? Where do you think most people sit? Where do you think they'll sit in six months or a year when the hubbub has died down? There's a huge, huge market for crappy pet food. Maybe people would be as insensitive to price as they are with gas prices, but I really have no idea. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - If you can't say it clearly, you don't understand it yourself -- John Searle |
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Lynne wrote: I doubt that people who buy premium foods are going to be willing to pay more, especially since, in theory, premium foods are made with higher quality ingredients and these companies claim to test, etc... so they will have no excuse to raise prices. Of course that might not stop them. Labelling requirements could push their costs up. I don't look at dog food prices, myself, but I think I'm kind of unusual in that regard. I can see prices on the low end foods coming up, but I'll bet instead of increasing the price of a 20 lb bag of kibble, they'll sell 18 lbs for the same price as they currently sell 20. That kind of thing already happens with some of the premium stuff. We're currently giving Blue a shot and it comes in 15- and 30-lb bags. I wish decent food were readily available in 50-lb bags, but that's another story. They have a captive audience in pet owners, so it'll be interesting to see how this all shakes out. People seem to dump pets pretty easily, so I'm not sure. I really have no idea how the pet food market would respond to price changes. It will be interesting to see if there's a legislative response, though - after 20-some-odd years of Americans (most Americans, anyway) thinking government is "the problem" the pendulum seems to be swinging the other way and people seem more open to regulation when needed than they were a few years ago. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - If you can't say it clearly, you don't understand it yourself -- John Searle |
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on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:12:51 GMT, Puddin' Man
wrote: And noone -yet- can tell me who "made" my Nutro. Call Nutro and ask them. -- Lynne |
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Puddin' Man Pudding Dot Man At Gmail Dot Com wrote: "A Reasonable Amount". In each case. Define "reasonable." 'Twere my impression that the real issue is responsibility. If most major players in the industry can contract-out acquisition, mixing, etc with impunity and then just point a finger to some unknown contractor when boondoggles occur, we (or at least our pets) are not optimally protected. It's a bad trend for the industry, near as I can tell. That's the way human food and pretty much everything else is manufactured, as well. It's a big part of the reason why stuff is so cheap, and why the standard of living is as high as it is in the US, and where economic productivity comes from, and so on. I don't know what the answer is but I expect that it's not a lot of harrumphing. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - If you can't say it clearly, you don't understand it yourself -- John Searle |
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