J1Boss wrote:

Sarah wrote:


None of my dogs will harm a human being, but if you tormented them by
repeatedly poking them with a plastic hand on a stick while they're trying
to eat, they might very well eventually snap at it.


When you adopted your guys, we weren't doing TT. We do now. We use the
Assess-a-hand. Tormenting is hardly the description of what is done (we use a
different test altogher, but do employ use of the A-A-H). The dogs who fail
generally do som BIG time.

that's wonderful Janet Dog Murderer Boss. I bet you feel a swell of
righteousness each time you murder a dog who bit the big plastic Cat in
the Hat hand. The Cat in the Hat hand that Sue Sternberg taught you how
to use to justify murdering dogs that you get paid to murder by the
STATE and by private contributions from SUCKER animal lovers.

BWHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAAAAA!!!

you're a dog exterminator Janet Boss, in addition to being an
incompetent dog trainer.

rpdb heelper


Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

J1Boss wrote:

Sarah wrote:


None of my dogs will harm a human being, but if you tormented them by
repeatedly poking them with a plastic hand on a stick while they're trying
to eat, they might very well eventually snap at it.


When you adopted your guys, we weren't doing TT. We do now. We use the
Assess-a-hand. Tormenting is hardly the description of what is done (we use a
different test altogher, but do employ use of the A-A-H). The dogs who fail
generally do som BIG time.

that's wonderful Janet Dog Murderer Boss. I bet you feel a swell of
righteousness each time you murder a dog who bit the big plastic Cat in
the Hat hand. The Cat in the Hat hand that Sue Sternberg taught you how
to use to justify murdering dogs that you get paid to murder by the
STATE and by private contributions from SUCKER animal lovers.

BWHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAAAAA!!!

you're a dog exterminator Janet Boss, in addition to being an
incompetent dog trainer.

rpdb heelper


Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

J1Boss wrote:

Sarah wrote:


None of my dogs will harm a human being, but if you tormented them by
repeatedly poking them with a plastic hand on a stick while they're trying
to eat, they might very well eventually snap at it.


When you adopted your guys, we weren't doing TT. We do now. We use the
Assess-a-hand. Tormenting is hardly the description of what is done (we use a
different test altogher, but do employ use of the A-A-H). The dogs who fail
generally do som BIG time.

that's wonderful Janet Dog Murderer Boss. I bet you feel a swell of
righteousness each time you murder a dog who bit the big plastic Cat in
the Hat hand. The Cat in the Hat hand that Sue Sternberg taught you how
to use to justify murdering dogs that you get paid to murder by the
STATE and by private contributions from SUCKER animal lovers.

BWHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAAAAA!!!

you're a dog exterminator Janet Boss, in addition to being an
incompetent dog trainer.

rpdb heelper


Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Tricia9999 wrote:
I don't think anyone is pinning "all this" on Sue. We happen to be
discussing a movie that features her. This could become a wider
discussion about temperament testing in general, but up til now it hasn't



We draw the line at different places, not a fixed point, but the first thing we
have to know is who are adopters are, what they have the capacity to deal with,
what they want in a dog. We put dogs up for adoption that require more skill
and committement and we offer them free consultations and we talk with them
every month for 6 months following the adoption. This is the minumum - we often
get more involved.

cut the bullshit. It's your job to eliminate dogs. If you were truly
worried about public safety, you'd be taking automobiles off the road
instead of murdering dogs for hire. For every child and youth 0-19
killed by a dog, thousands are killed by cars. You are murdering dogs
because you are getting paid to murder dogs, not because you are doing
society any favors by keeping us all safe from dogs...

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

for every child killed by a dog, hundreds are killed by their own mother.

BWHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

I wonder if Sue Sternberg, World Class Dog Murderer, is being paid by
HBO for her movie role where she plays a real life dog murderer. Might
as well have as many income sources as possible.

rpdb
heelper

Tricia9999 wrote:
I don't think anyone is pinning "all this" on Sue. We happen to be
discussing a movie that features her. This could become a wider
discussion about temperament testing in general, but up til now it hasn't



We draw the line at different places, not a fixed point, but the first thing we
have to know is who are adopters are, what they have the capacity to deal with,
what they want in a dog. We put dogs up for adoption that require more skill
and committement and we offer them free consultations and we talk with them
every month for 6 months following the adoption. This is the minumum - we often
get more involved.

cut the bullshit. It's your job to eliminate dogs. If you were truly
worried about public safety, you'd be taking automobiles off the road
instead of murdering dogs for hire. For every child and youth 0-19
killed by a dog, thousands are killed by cars. You are murdering dogs
because you are getting paid to murder dogs, not because you are doing
society any favors by keeping us all safe from dogs...

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

for every child killed by a dog, hundreds are killed by their own mother.

BWHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

I wonder if Sue Sternberg, World Class Dog Murderer, is being paid by
HBO for her movie role where she plays a real life dog murderer. Might
as well have as many income sources as possible.

rpdb
heelper

Tricia9999 wrote:
I don't think anyone is pinning "all this" on Sue. We happen to be
discussing a movie that features her. This could become a wider
discussion about temperament testing in general, but up til now it hasn't



We draw the line at different places, not a fixed point, but the first thing we
have to know is who are adopters are, what they have the capacity to deal with,
what they want in a dog. We put dogs up for adoption that require more skill
and committement and we offer them free consultations and we talk with them
every month for 6 months following the adoption. This is the minumum - we often
get more involved.

cut the bullshit. It's your job to eliminate dogs. If you were truly
worried about public safety, you'd be taking automobiles off the road
instead of murdering dogs for hire. For every child and youth 0-19
killed by a dog, thousands are killed by cars. You are murdering dogs
because you are getting paid to murder dogs, not because you are doing
society any favors by keeping us all safe from dogs...

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

for every child killed by a dog, hundreds are killed by their own mother.

BWHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

I wonder if Sue Sternberg, World Class Dog Murderer, is being paid by
HBO for her movie role where she plays a real life dog murderer. Might
as well have as many income sources as possible.

rpdb
heelper

Tricia9999 wrote:
I don't think anyone is pinning "all this" on Sue. We happen to be
discussing a movie that features her. This could become a wider
discussion about temperament testing in general, but up til now it hasn't



We draw the line at different places, not a fixed point, but the first thing we
have to know is who are adopters are, what they have the capacity to deal with,
what they want in a dog. We put dogs up for adoption that require more skill
and committement and we offer them free consultations and we talk with them
every month for 6 months following the adoption. This is the minumum - we often
get more involved.

cut the bullshit. It's your job to eliminate dogs. If you were truly
worried about public safety, you'd be taking automobiles off the road
instead of murdering dogs for hire. For every child and youth 0-19
killed by a dog, thousands are killed by cars. You are murdering dogs
because you are getting paid to murder dogs, not because you are doing
society any favors by keeping us all safe from dogs...

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

for every child killed by a dog, hundreds are killed by their own mother.

BWHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

I wonder if Sue Sternberg, World Class Dog Murderer, is being paid by
HBO for her movie role where she plays a real life dog murderer. Might
as well have as many income sources as possible.

rpdb
heelper

Handsome "Jack" Morrison wrote:


There's little about rescue work that isn't "extremely distasteful."
How long exactly have you been involved in rescue, anyway, Mel?

what's distasteful about rescuing dogs? The only thing that's
distasteful us murdering dogs in the name of rescue. Because you're
lying to yourself and to the public. We can't improve the situation if
everyone is lying.

Well, someone has to make "value judgments" almost every week,
judgements that he/she will always find "extremely distasteful." But
they still must be made.

Nobody "has" to murder dogs. People do it because they get paid to do
it, or because they volunteer to for dog murdering duty. Stop
complaining that society is forcing you to murder dogs. We're not buying
it. If you don't like murdering dogs, than stop freaking doing it.


Because there AREN'T ENOUGH ROOMS AT THE FREAKING INN!

THEN STOP CALLING IT A FREAKING INN and call it a CONCENTRATION CAMP if
it's NOT REALLY A FREAKING INN. This gets us back to the systematic
lying inherent in our national dog murdering schema, made up of hard
working people like you.

I understand the concept of triage. But I don't believe that being free
of behavioral issues (most of them, I might add, human-caused) makes a
dog more inherently valuable or worthy of living than another dog.


It's not a matter of worth. It's a matter of SPACE! If there were
enough rooms, there would never be a need to KILL the vast majority of
dogs that are currently being KILLED in shelters across the country.

there's an ENORMOUS amount of space in this country. That's not why dogs
are being killed. They are being killed because people and organizations
like the ASPCA are being paid to kill dogs by the STATE and by private
contribution from SUCKER ANIMAL lovers who contribute.


As long as stray or abandoned or unwanted dogs are going to be rounded
up and brought to shelters (which is one reason why I always recommend
against doing that,

well there's a start....



But until you're working in rescue yourself, and are actually faced
with making decisions like this, you couldn't possibly get it.

"rescue" has nothing to do with murdering dogs. Therein lies the source
of your frustration and internal conflict. The truth will set you free.
Start saying you are in "dog rescue and destruction" and you won't be
lying to yoruself and others.

thank you so much

rpdb heelper

Handsome "Jack" Morrison wrote:


There's little about rescue work that isn't "extremely distasteful."
How long exactly have you been involved in rescue, anyway, Mel?

what's distasteful about rescuing dogs? The only thing that's
distasteful us murdering dogs in the name of rescue. Because you're
lying to yourself and to the public. We can't improve the situation if
everyone is lying.

Well, someone has to make "value judgments" almost every week,
judgements that he/she will always find "extremely distasteful." But
they still must be made.

Nobody "has" to murder dogs. People do it because they get paid to do
it, or because they volunteer to for dog murdering duty. Stop
complaining that society is forcing you to murder dogs. We're not buying
it. If you don't like murdering dogs, than stop freaking doing it.


Because there AREN'T ENOUGH ROOMS AT THE FREAKING INN!

THEN STOP CALLING IT A FREAKING INN and call it a CONCENTRATION CAMP if
it's NOT REALLY A FREAKING INN. This gets us back to the systematic
lying inherent in our national dog murdering schema, made up of hard
working people like you.

I understand the concept of triage. But I don't believe that being free
of behavioral issues (most of them, I might add, human-caused) makes a
dog more inherently valuable or worthy of living than another dog.


It's not a matter of worth. It's a matter of SPACE! If there were
enough rooms, there would never be a need to KILL the vast majority of
dogs that are currently being KILLED in shelters across the country.

there's an ENORMOUS amount of space in this country. That's not why dogs
are being killed. They are being killed because people and organizations
like the ASPCA are being paid to kill dogs by the STATE and by private
contribution from SUCKER ANIMAL lovers who contribute.


As long as stray or abandoned or unwanted dogs are going to be rounded
up and brought to shelters (which is one reason why I always recommend
against doing that,

well there's a start....



But until you're working in rescue yourself, and are actually faced
with making decisions like this, you couldn't possibly get it.

"rescue" has nothing to do with murdering dogs. Therein lies the source
of your frustration and internal conflict. The truth will set you free.
Start saying you are in "dog rescue and destruction" and you won't be
lying to yoruself and others.

thank you so much

rpdb heelper

Handsome "Jack" Morrison wrote:


There's little about rescue work that isn't "extremely distasteful."
How long exactly have you been involved in rescue, anyway, Mel?

what's distasteful about rescuing dogs? The only thing that's
distasteful us murdering dogs in the name of rescue. Because you're
lying to yourself and to the public. We can't improve the situation if
everyone is lying.

Well, someone has to make "value judgments" almost every week,
judgements that he/she will always find "extremely distasteful." But
they still must be made.

Nobody "has" to murder dogs. People do it because they get paid to do
it, or because they volunteer to for dog murdering duty. Stop
complaining that society is forcing you to murder dogs. We're not buying
it. If you don't like murdering dogs, than stop freaking doing it.


Because there AREN'T ENOUGH ROOMS AT THE FREAKING INN!

THEN STOP CALLING IT A FREAKING INN and call it a CONCENTRATION CAMP if
it's NOT REALLY A FREAKING INN. This gets us back to the systematic
lying inherent in our national dog murdering schema, made up of hard
working people like you.

I understand the concept of triage. But I don't believe that being free
of behavioral issues (most of them, I might add, human-caused) makes a
dog more inherently valuable or worthy of living than another dog.


It's not a matter of worth. It's a matter of SPACE! If there were
enough rooms, there would never be a need to KILL the vast majority of
dogs that are currently being KILLED in shelters across the country.

there's an ENORMOUS amount of space in this country. That's not why dogs
are being killed. They are being killed because people and organizations
like the ASPCA are being paid to kill dogs by the STATE and by private
contribution from SUCKER ANIMAL lovers who contribute.


As long as stray or abandoned or unwanted dogs are going to be rounded
up and brought to shelters (which is one reason why I always recommend
against doing that,

well there's a start....



But until you're working in rescue yourself, and are actually faced
with making decisions like this, you couldn't possibly get it.

"rescue" has nothing to do with murdering dogs. Therein lies the source
of your frustration and internal conflict. The truth will set you free.
Start saying you are in "dog rescue and destruction" and you won't be
lying to yoruself and others.

thank you so much

rpdb heelper