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We want to keep our Weimaraner puppy around a long time.
In the spring of last year, we had to put our 10 year old Golden
Retriever down. A tumor had ruptured in his gut and even the vet said that there was nothing they could do that would be any kind of guarantee. All of my family was crying as we left Jesse in that vet's office after watching him breath his last breath. That is one of the hardest decisions that I have ever made. After moving to a new city for work and being without the wonderful clutter and mess of a good family dog for 4 months, we adopted a beautiful blue weimaraner puppy. His form and musculature and ears and attitude are all classic AKC registered and approved weimaraner. His color is a dark gray or "blue". As a result he does not meet breed standard. However, I don't think that an animal that good looking will be kept out of dog shows forever. My wife is convinced that many of the "helpful" drugs that we fed our golden contributed to his early death. We know that goldens have a history of cancer problems but maybe that is just a congenital weakness that we aggravate with heartworm poisons and tick poisons and flea poisons. Does any one else have that opinion? We are also concerned about the recent pet food recalls. I have set up a blog at http://feedingmydog.blogspot.com/ to talk about that. Are we guilty of putting our pets at risk with our good intentions? I sure hope not. |
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We want to keep our Weimaraner puppy around a long time.
"JimD" wrote in message ups.com... My wife is convinced that many of the "helpful" drugs that we fed our golden contributed to his early death. We know that goldens have a history of cancer problems but maybe that is just a congenital weakness that we aggravate with heartworm poisons and tick poisons and flea poisons. Does any one else have that opinion? ........To cut down on flea preventatives, sweep the carpet daily, wash dog bedding weekly and groom your pet frequently. Flea combing 10 minutes a day can get you a lot of fleas too. If there aren't huge flea problems (like in the state of FL), you can halve the number of doses of spot-on flea treatments during flea season and perhaps almost eliminate them, depending on the environment. If you use Heartgard you can use it every 6 weeks. If you look up the original studies through FOI at the FDA/CVM site, you'll see that 6 weeks gives the same results as 4 weeks. They just didn't figure people would remember a schedule like this and shortened it to monthly. If you're lucky enough to live in a place with a real winter, don't keep your pet on heartworm preventatives year round - spend the money to get a heartworm test before you start dosing again in the spring. People focus on stuff like flea preventatives and still use plug in air fresheners, spray weird things on the carpet the dog inhales all the time, go nuts with roach/ant/wasp sprays, have their lawns treated regularly, etc., etc. Life is mostly common sense. We are also concerned about the recent pet food recalls. I have set up a blog at http://feedingmydog.blogspot.com/ to talk about that. Are we guilty of putting our pets at risk with our good intentions? I sure hope not. ........so I went to your blog - are you selling the Lewis ebook? Really, I hate that kind of come on represented in this book. I doubt highly there's many *secrets*. I can get good information for free from www.dogaware.com, the Yahoo group K9Nutrition and other groups not to mention doing my own research. I certainly hope you're feeding your puppy properly - the right amount of calcium is highly important at this stage of life. The dogs of your southern relatives probably also had squirrels and rabbits they could catch when they wanted, which makes a huge difference. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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We want to keep our Weimaraner puppy around a long time.
In article k.net,
"buglady" wrote: People focus on stuff like flea preventatives and still use plug in air fresheners, spray weird things on the carpet the dog inhales all the time, go nuts with roach/ant/wasp sprays, have their lawns treated regularly, etc., etc. Life is mostly common sense. I avoid all of that stuff as much as possible, for MYSELF as well as for the pets (but realize they are a lot closer to all of that). I admit to not having gone to "organic" detergents and such, but I have at times in my life. I'm not a completely green person, but I try to do what I can. No bug sprays (the pets eat the bugs too - I don't want them ingesting poison through bugs!). The closest I get to plug in air fresheners is Feliway plug-ins (and they have been a very, very good thing - I WANT those affecting the pets!). My biggest thing to deal with right now is not letting the dogs ingest the wood resulting from tearing down a 45 year old deck. -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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We want to keep our Weimaraner puppy around a long time.
On Jun 3, 9:41 am, "buglady" wrote:
"JimD" wrote in message ups.com... I certainly hope you're feeding your puppy properly - the right amount of calcium is highly important at this stage of life. The dogs of your southern relatives probably also had squirrels and rabbits they could catch when they wanted, which makes a huge difference. buglady take out the dog before replying Thank you for the dogaware.com site. I will check that out. Yes we are taking care of the very perky and highly intelligent Weimaraner puppy. It is interesting to see that others have some of the same concerns about the poisons (that is literal not dramatics) that we are feeding our dogs to kill pests and parasites from the "inside out". I know that is what chemotherapy is for human cancer but that is usually short term and not for the life of the animal/human. Interesting that you mentioned Florida. Last June we moved from Palm Beach County, Florida to near Allentown PA. For the 4 years we lived in FL we really did not have a flea problem -- but that was on the coast. I think they were more afraid of heartworm there with all the mosquitos. Thanks Jim D |
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We want to keep our Weimaraner puppy around a long time.
"JimD" wrote in message
ups.com... It is interesting to see that others have some of the same concerns about the poisons (that is literal not dramatics) that we are feeding our dogs to kill pests and parasites from the "inside out". I know that is what chemotherapy is for human cancer but that is usually short term and not for the life of the animal/human. It's a jump from this to the assumption that you seem to be making - which is that feeding a small amount of a substance that is quite poisonous to one type of critter is necessarily cancer-causing to another type of critter. Cancer, btw, is not a parasite. I don't understand the phrase "I know that is what chemotherapy is for human cancer." Or if you mean, chemotherapy is a substance especially poisonous to cancer cells, like ivermectin is especially poisonous to heartworm larvae, then yes, I guess there's a parallel. Otherwise, I don't understand where you're going with this. Cancer is a disease not only of exposure to known carcinogens, but also of old age. Whether the "old age" part of that necessarily means an exposure to unknown carcinogens over a long period of time, or some other mechanism, is anybody's guess at this point. There are a couple natural substances I can think of offhand, exposure to which in food quantities (or less) is strongly suspected of causing cancer. Bracken fern, which is eaten by people in some places, is implicated in stomach cancer if consumed frequently over a long period of time. The African milkbush is implicated in Burkitt's lymphoma, a too-common childhood cancer in Africa. "Natural" doesn't necessarily mean safe. And "chemical" doesn't necessarily mean cancer-causing. flick 100785 |
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We want to keep our Weimaraner puppy around a long time.
On Jun 3, 9:41 am, "buglady" wrote:
"JimD" wrote in message ups.com... My wife is convinced that many of the "helpful" drugs that we fed our golden contributed to his early death. We know that goldens have a history of cancer problems but maybe that is just a congenital weakness that we aggravate with heartworm poisons and tick poisons and flea poisons. Does any one else have that opinion? .......To cut down on flea preventatives, sweep the carpet daily, wash dog bedding weekly and groom your pet frequently. Flea combing 10 minutes a day can get you a lot of fleas too. If there aren't huge flea problems (like in the state of FL), you can halve the number of doses of spot-on flea treatments during flea season and perhaps almost eliminate them, depending on the environment. If you use Heartgard you can use it every 6 weeks. If you look up the original studies through FOI at the FDA/CVM site, you'll see that 6 weeks gives the same results as 4 weeks. They just didn't figure people would remember a schedule like this and shortened it to monthly. If you're lucky enough to live in a place with a real winter, don't keep your pet on heartworm preventatives year round - spend the money to get a heartworm test before you start dosing again in the spring. People focus on stuff like flea preventatives and still use plug in air fresheners, spray weird things on the carpet the dog inhales all the time, go nuts with roach/ant/wasp sprays, have their lawns treated regularly, etc., etc. Life is mostly common sense. We are also concerned about the recent pet food recalls. I have set up a blog athttp://feedingmydog.blogspot.com/to talk about that. Are we guilty of putting our pets at risk with our good intentions? I sure hope not. .......so I went to your blog - are you selling the Lewis ebook? Really, I hate that kind of come on represented in this book. I doubt highly there's many *secrets*. I can get good information for free fromwww.dogaware.com, the Yahoo group K9Nutrition and other groups not to mention doing my own research. I certainly hope you're feeding your puppy properly - the right amount of calcium is highly important at this stage of life. The dogs of your southern relatives probably also had squirrels and rabbits they could catch when they wanted, which makes a huge difference. buglady take out the dog before replying Thank you for that link. I have put it on the blog. Jim D |
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We want to keep our Weimaraner puppy around a long time.
On Jun 4, 12:40 am, "Many Dogs \(flick\)"
wrote: "JimD" wrote in message ups.com... It's a jump from this to the assumption that you seem to be making - which is that feeding a small amount of a substance that is quite poisonous to one type of critter is necessarily cancer-causing to another type of critter. Cancer, btw, is not a parasite. I don't understand the phrase "I know that is what chemotherapy is for human cancer." Or if you mean, chemotherapy is a substance especially poisonous to cancer cells, like ivermectin is especially poisonous to heartworm larvae, then yes, I guess there's a parallel. "Natural" doesn't necessarily mean safe. And "chemical" doesn't necessarily mean cancer-causing. flick 100785 Amen that "natural" does not necessarily mean safe. The quickest unsafe natural examples that I can think of for humans is belladona and opium. And I understand that eating tomato leaves can poison a dog. I am unfortunately quite familiar with the various forms of cancerous tumors so I know that they are not a parasite and I know that heartworm, ticks, and fleas are. I got some education in cancer therapies by talking with doctors and relatives and friends that suffered from it. What I have been told by both patients and doctors is that chemotherapy is a delicate balancing act of introducing poisons to the body in the hope that the cancer dies and the patient does not. That is what I was referring to. It seems as if we are introducing poisons to our pets bodies in the hope that (rather than the certainty that) the poisons will kill the pests but not the patient. Maybe the parallel is not quite parallel but they are at least similar concepts. You are probably correct that "chemical" doesn't necessarily mean cancer-causing. However, I am very suspicious of chemicals that are intended to kill -- even if it is not intended to kill my pet. Thanks Jim D |
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