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Hello,
I'm looking for some advice, my wife wants to get a Viszla puppy to live with us in our apartment in Budapest, the apartment is 90 meters square, but we have 3 indoor cats already in our place, the cats get on really well, and have lots of fun. We work from home so there is always someone in the apartment. My wife is an absolute dog lover and would walk the dog regularly. Do you guys think that the puppy will integrate with the doggy? Any advice? thanks -- t. |
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On 2007-06-15 01:14:01 +0200, twinkle twinkle
said: Do you guys think that the puppy will integrate with the doggy? I meant Puppy with the Kitties! -- t. |
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On 2007-06-15 01:31:01 +0200, diddy said:
You are selecting a VERY active breed, especially considering the accomodations. Unless your apartment comes equipped with a built in hamster (dog sized) wheel, how are you planning on handling a highly active dog to keep it tired out? (hint) I hope you are marathon runners Well we have lots of parks near here, and we live very close to a large island which is 3 miles long, and is a favorite for dog walkers. We are not marathon runners but we plan to use the walking of the dog to increase our activity also. We have seen Vizslas here, and to be honest our apartment size is large compared to most, and there are virtually no homes with outside gardens inside the city. We are dog lovers and wouldn't leave the dog inside without adequate exercise, people who do this really upset us. For example our cats are fed the best food and receive the best treatment we can give them (it cost us about $4,000 to bring these guys over from London), the cats are microchipped and wear collars and tags (something that the locals NEVER do here), so we really look after them. Out of interest how many miles per day would the Vizsla need to be walked? thanks -- t. |
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on Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:46:15 GMT, twinkle twinkle
wrote: Out of interest how many miles per day would the Vizsla need to be walked? Vizslas need to RUN. -- Lynne |
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On 2007-06-15 02:04:41 +0200, Lynne said:
on Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:46:15 GMT, twinkle twinkle wrote: Out of interest how many miles per day would the Vizsla need to be walked? Vizslas need to RUN. Meh, this is semantics. Run, walk you know what I mean. I've been told 30-60 minutes off the lead per day. -- t. |
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On 2007-06-15 02:15:58 +0200, diddy said
What we are saying is, we do not think your dog will be happy with that limited exercise. I wasn't saying this amount of walking is what we would do, but mearly going by guides read elsewhere for this breed. and major behavior issues are likely to develop. If you cannot keep the dog tired, entertained and challenged, and behavior problems exhibit themselves (as they most surely would be expected to) your dissappointment would be with yourself for making such a poor breed choice rather than the dog, who would be just doing what his breed would be expected to do under such circumstances. Um, right,, and? Your dog should not be made to feel inferior, bad, punished, or dumped for being a bad dog, when you are making the poor choices for him, and he has no say in the matter. My wife has lived with various dogs since she was born, and I have owned and loved dogs also. This rudimentary (and common sense) advice is not really was what I was asking. Why on earth would I "punish" or "dump" a dog? We already run/walk about 2 miles per day in the park, and therefore I believe this would be ample exercise for the dog. Hungary is a nation of dog lovers and in fact animals in general, I was asking about possible advice to the interaction of the Vizsla breed and domestic cats, not the "holier than thou" and "we know best" rhetoric that you, and your confused and dictatorial country preaches on the world stage (and also in this newsgroup). I think I'll ask the question in Hungarian to a more clued up audience, one that isn't frequented by idiots from a nation that routinely de-claws cats and intensively farms animals. -- t. |
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on Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:38:24 GMT, twinkle twinkle
wrote: I think I'll ask the question in Hungarian to a more clued up audience, one that isn't frequented by idiots from a nation that routinely de-claws cats and intensively farms animals. uh, most American abhor the practice of declawing. It is done by only a very small and ignorant percentage of cat owners here. The dog will probably be fine with cats if you train him properly. I have a dog who is a mix of hunting breeds and she loves my cats. If your dog is under exercised mentally and/or physcially, he will probably torment the cats in between bouts of ripping apart your apartment. In my experience, the Vizsla has higher than average exercise needs, so "Walk" vs "Run" is much more than semantics. Perhaps you should have been more specific? My beagle/hound mix is exercised on average 90 minutes to 2 hours per day, with 60 minutes of running. On the weekends she hikes and runs in the woods off an on all day at least one day per weekend, usually 2. I'd say she's almost getting enough exercise. 30-60 minutes a day would not be enough for her, and definitely not for the Vizslas I have known. -- Lynne |
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On 2007-06-15 02:58:27 +0200, Lynne said:
on Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:38:24 GMT, twinkle twinkle wrote: I think I'll ask the question in Hungarian to a more clued up audience, one that isn't frequented by idiots from a nation that routinely de-claws cats and intensively farms animals. uh, most American abhor the practice of declawing. It is done by only a very small and ignorant percentage of cat owners here. Yes, I find this practice abhorrent also, I shouldn't have generalized, but I was a little annoyed by Diddy's post and was probably trying to draw him on. The dog will probably be fine with cats if you train him properly. I have a dog who is a mix of hunting breeds and she loves my cats. If your dog is under exercised mentally and/or physcially, he will probably torment the cats in between bouts of ripping apart your apartment. Understood, this is really useful advice. In my experience, the Vizsla has higher than average exercise needs, so "Walk" vs "Run" is much more than semantics. Perhaps you should have been more specific? My beagle/hound mix is exercised on average 90 minutes to 2 hours per day, with 60 minutes of running. On the weekends she hikes and runs in the woods off an on all day at least one day per weekend, usually 2. I'd say she's almost getting enough exercise. 30-60 minutes a day would not be enough for her, and definitely not for the Vizslas I have known. I think we'll be able to stimulate him/her enough by incorporating the run/walk into our daily exercise schedule. We are more used to smaller breeds but I loved a Weimaraner when I was younger and the Vizsla seems quite similar (from what I've read), and I remember now that the Weimaraner loved to run. Thank-you for taking the time to reply to what I actually asked! Thanks again! -- t. |
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on Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:12:38 GMT, twinkle twinkle
wrote: I think we'll be able to stimulate him/her enough by incorporating the run/walk into our daily exercise schedule. We are more used to smaller breeds but I loved a Weimaraner when I was younger and the Vizsla seems quite similar (from what I've read), and I remember now that the Weimaraner loved to run. From what I know about Vizslas, I think they might be a better fit for a home with cats than Weims. On the other hand, it has been my experience that when you raise a puppy with cats, they get along quite well, so that might be true for most dogs (I'm guessing here, though). Just make sure the cats have an escape route from the dog, like a strategically placed baby gate or a door that you can secure open just wide enough for cats to get through, but not wide enough for the dog. Sometimes cats just need a break and it's better that they have an escape route rather than possibly take out a dog's eye. My crew here all play and sleep together. Earlier this week, one of my cats opened the back door and slipped out (mine are indoor-only cats). My dog came back to my office, whining frantically to let me know. She was so insistent that I had to go see what was up. She could have just as easily gone outside with the cat and I might not have caught on for hours, but she seemed genuinely worried. The cat got an all over tongue bath from the dog when I brought him back in. Just don't slack off on the exercise, EVER. I was lazy this Winter and my beloved girl displayed some troubling behavioral problems. Now we are back in our active groove and she's the perfect angel again, so I think the problems were related. Remember, "a tired dog is a good dog." Vizslas are beautiful. Good luck! -- Lynne |
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twinkle twinkle wrote:
Hello, I'm looking for some advice, my wife wants to get a Viszla puppy to live with us in our apartment in Budapest, the apartment is 90 meters square, but we have 3 indoor cats already in our place, the cats get on really well, and have lots of fun. We work from home so there is always someone in the apartment. My wife is an absolute dog lover and would walk the dog regularly. Do you guys think that the puppy will integrate with the doggy? I don't have much first-hand experience with Vizslas, but as a comparison, I currently live in a 700sq ft apartment with one active Boxer and one cat. I used to live in a 600sq ft house with three cats, a Boxer, and a Pit Bull/Chow mix. I don't think the size of your apartment is the issue. The real question is whether or not a Vizsla is the right breed for you. No one here can answer that question for you, but there are some things you should consider in trying to make your decision. Do you have much experience with Vizslas? Do you know what sort of time commitment is required to keep them sufficiently exercised, both mentally and physically? I would recommend seeking out Vizsla owners and breeders in your area, and talking to them about your living situation. Also, try to spend an extended length of time with them and their dogs. Maybe you could offer to pet sit a friend's Vizsla, or volunteer to foster a dog for a local Vizsla rescue group? That would give you a better idea of whether or not the breed is a good fit for your home and lifestyle, without making a life-time commitment to owning one. As for the cats, there's really no guarantee that they will get along with the dog, even if you get a young puppy and raise it with the cats. There are things you can do to make sure that everyone co-exists (more or less) peacefully, though. -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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