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Please help with dog anxiety
Recently, I've moved into a new house (to me) from an apartment. I now have a routine established between work and school. While I am gone, Gina is put into her large carrier. She is taken out before I leave as she always has been, but shakes uncontrolably beforehand, and deficates in her carrier daily while I am gone. I am so tired of cleaning her and it up daily! What do I do?? We have been here a month, the back yard is escapable so not safe. I've been so patient butI'm tired and worried. She has been to the vet and hasn't any health issues. HELP
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Billie Holiday wrote: While I am gone, Gina is put into her large carrier. She is taken out before I leave as she always has been, but shakes uncontrolably beforehand, and deficates in her carrier daily while I am gone. I am so tired of cleaning her and it up daily! What do I do?? How old is Gina? Does she NEED to be crated? It sounds like she may be defecating due to stress (confinement)? Too many factors to diagnose over the internet. -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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"Billie Holiday" wrote in message ... Recently, I've moved into a new house (to me) from an apartment. I now have a routine established between work and school. While I am gone, Gina is put into her large carrier. She is taken out before I leave as she always has been, but shakes uncontrolably beforehand, and deficates in her carrier daily while I am gone. I am so tired of cleaning her and it up daily! What do I do?? We have been here a month, the back yard is escapable so not safe. I've been so patient butI'm tired and worried. She has been to the vet and hasn't any health issues. HELP -- Billie Holiday There are many schools of thought and recommendations that will be presented to you here. I accepted the offer of traditional dog obedience training from Janet Boss, as urged as well from many others who are regulars here, and it resulted in near tragedy. My dog Muttley, at that time being offered for rehoming, reacted strongly against the forceful methods I was being taught, and caused injury to another student's dog. The story is in the archives starting about a year ago, and some of it is also preserved in my "Muttley Story", which you can find on my website: www.peschoen.com. For a long time I discounted the advice given by Jerry Howe, especially as he chose to use verbal abuse directed at me, and even more to others, but this is because he is frustrated by those who belittle his methods and continue to subject their dogs to unnecessary force and harshness. My dog Muttley had, and still has, some behavioral problems, but I have learned that he responds best to gentle methods and unconditional love. For a long time I was unable to trust him alone in my house, and I had to leave him tied up outside. He would have been even more miserable if confined to a cage, crate, or kennel. Eventually we developed a mutual trust, so that now I can leave him with free run of the house for 8, 10, even 12 hours, and be just about 99.7% certain that he will not get into any mischief while I am away. When I come home, he either eagerly greets me at the door, or I hear him jump off the bed where he has been sleeping quietly all day. I have not yet tried all of the methods Jerry promotes, but I intend to do so. They are gentle, non-confrontational, and certainly cannot do any harm. As a corollary to Occam's Razor, the simplest and least harmful solution to a problem is the correct one. I am very satisfied with Muttley's disposition and he has even been commended on his good behavior on several instances recently. I am not greatly concerned that he will not always heel properly, or obey commands perfectly. He, as most dogs, is eager to please, and I am glad that he can still think for himself. On a couple of occasions, when I slipped and fell while walking him, he came right to me and sat by my side while I got up. When I sneeze, he comes to me with great concern until I assure him I am OK. Please read what Jerry has written. I have provided a link to a single plain text version of his manual for easy downloading and reading: www.smart.net/~pstech/HoweManual.txt. I sincerely hope you have success with your dog, so that you can have confidence in her, as she should have in you. I am very happy with the way Muttley has turned out. He was a rescue and had probably been abused. I was counseled to have him euthanized unless I would spend $500 to $1000 or more for intensive behavior modification and training. But all he really needed was a trusting relationship and lots of love. Paul and Muttley |
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Paul E. Schoen wrote:
There are many schools of thought and recommendations that will be presented to you here. I accepted the offer of traditional dog obedience training from Janet Boss, as urged as well from many others who are regulars here, and it resulted in near tragedy. God, but you are an ass. You were urged to get help with your dog, period. No one told you what sort of training to seek, and if they had, you are presumably a big boy and can make those sorts of decisions on your own. Or perhaps not. Anyway, your continued harassment and bad-mouthing of the one person who actually tried to give you free, in-person help with your dog is really disgusting. So, Paul, in the year that you have been trolling rec.pets.dogs*, have you bothered to do any actually training with your dog? Do you have any plans to do so, or are you going to continue to abdicate responsibility for him? My dog Muttley, at that time being offered for rehoming, reacted strongly against the forceful methods I was being taught, No, he reacted strongly to your dingbat mistake. (Hint: Janet says that she never told you to physically force your dog into a down, and I see no reason to disbelieve her. You, on the other hand, have proved to be a congenital prevaricator. I don't think you'd know the truth if it bit you in the ass.) By your own admission, things were exacerbated by you being unprepared and *late* for class. That's Janet's fault, how? -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:23:44 -0400, "Paul E. Schoen"
wrote: [...] For a long time I discounted the advice given by Jerry Howe Heh. Truthfully now, who didn't see this coming? Paul Schoen is to Jerry Howe what Patricia Krenwinkel was to Charlie Manson. -- Handsome Jack Morrison Yo, Judith! http://blogs.nypost.com/movies/archi...on_m.html#more Do you remember me? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ervaMPt4Ha0&eurl= Harry Reid. "It's time for you to go!' http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...4B5D5BDB0E7D4A You gotta be shittin' us, Harry, you sorry excuse for a human being. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8&eurl= Parent, grandparent, etc. of a boy? Get this book! The Dangerous Book for Boys, by Conn & Hal Iggulden http://www.dangerousbookforboys.com/ |
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Thanks Paul, I appriciate your comments...so sorry about the flack you got from others. Billie is roughly 18 months and a small (15 lbs.) dog, mostly Miniature schnauser. She chews things in the house like cords etc. Therefore, for her safety, she is crated. She was crated however while I was in college during the day, with little anxiety since she was a puppy. Maybe it is the new environment???
Thanks again. I'll check out Jerry's page. Quote:
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"Billie Holiday" wrote in message ... Recently, I've moved into a new house (to me) from an apartment. I now have a routine established between work and school. While I am gone, Gina is put into her large carrier. She is taken out before I leave as she always has been, but shakes uncontrolably beforehand, and deficates in her carrier daily while I am gone. I am so tired of cleaning her and it up daily! What do I do?? We have been here a month, the back yard is escapable so not safe. I've been so patient butI'm tired and worried. She has been to the vet and hasn't any health issues. HELP -- Billie Holiday ============== Do you walk her before you put her in the crate for about 40 minutes in the morning and then again when you arrive home for about 40 minutes? Make sure she goes before you bring her back in the house. Is there someone who could take her out in the middle of the day? Most dogs are willing to rest for hours at a time if they have had a good exercise first. Possibly she could also be afraid of her new surroundings or certain new noises in the house? Maybe leaving the radio on very low would block some of the noises while you are gone. Is she in her crate for too long a time period each day. Maybe you could get a baby gate and gate her in one room instead of the crate. |
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:23:44 -0400, "Paul E. Schoen"
wrote: I am very happy with the way Muttley has turned out. Yes, just follow Paul Schoen's advice and your dog can turn out to be just like Muttley! http://www.smart.net/~pstech/Muttley/MuttleyPix.htm I.e., unable to be taken anywhere, not even his *own* fenced yard, without the assistance of prong collars and heavy-duty long lines! Paul's probably going to have his own TV show soon (right after the book comes out, of course!), and then he'll be able to show the entire world just how he performed this miraculous feat! Yes, you too, may soon be able to make *your* dog stay in his *own* backyard, and with just the use of a prong collar and a heavy duty line! Stay tuned for exciting details! -- Handsome Jack Morrison Yo, Judith! http://blogs.nypost.com/movies/archi...on_m.html#more http://www.freemarketcure.com/ Do you remember me? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ervaMPt4Ha0&eurl= Harry Reid. "It's time for you to go!' http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...4B5D5BDB0E7D4A You gotta be shittin' us, Harry, you sorry excuse for a human being. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8&eurl= Parent, grandparent, etc. of a boy? Get this book! The Dangerous Book for Boys, by Conn & Hal Iggulden http://www.dangerousbookforboys.com/ |
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montana wildhack wrote:
On 2007-06-20 02:23:44 -0400, "Paul E. Schoen" said: They are gentle, non-confrontational, and certainly cannot do any harm. This is a serious misrepresentation of a number of "Jerry's methods." I figure that Paul's misrepresentation of Jerry's "methods" is probably in line with his misrepresentation of what went on in Janet's class. -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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in thread news:2007062013061816807-montana@wildhackcominvalid: montana
wildhack whittled the following words: On 2007-06-20 02:23:44 -0400, "Paul E. Schoen" said: They are gentle, non-confrontational, and certainly cannot do any harm. This is a serious misrepresentation of a number of "Jerry's methods." This is where Paul's lack of experience with dogs shows through. With sound sensitive dogs, Jerries methods can be very damaging. I'm sure Muttley is NOT sound sensitive, and if Jerry's suggested thoughts (that have been used successfully by many trainers for decades before Jerry ever appeared on the scene) work on Muttley, I have no problems with him using them. I have no doubt ANY structured training program with Muttley will show improvement. My problem is that Paul accepts the handouts and attributes the wrong sources for his "discovery" and directs people to a scrambled version hard to read. My problems with Paul is that he rejects everything offered, and lumps everyone in the same pail and assumes everyone who offers advice and calls them unanimously dog abusers puts him in the troll catagory, and I finally considered him a lost cause, severely misguided, and dumped him back in the killfile for 100 days. Next time he hits the killfile, it's permanent. I've come to the conclusion that Paul is a PEOPLE abuser. |
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