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Romney melts down
What could be worse? That he beats his children
or that he has more than one wife? (Both of which may be acceptable in the Mormon faith, as racism was not too long ago.) The old line used to be that a politician's career ends when he's caught with a dead girl or a live boy. What about this? http://preview.tinyurl.com/yrmxcc -- A. Brain Remove NOSPAM for email. |
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Romney melts down
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No Brain wrote: What could be worse? That he beats his children or that he has more than one wife? The dog-on-the-roof story is terrible, but when you lie about the other stuff it makes the dog-on-the-roof story look dubious, too. I hate cheap-ass smear jobs when you should be talking about the issues. If you thought the Swift Boat attacks on Kerry were awful (and I don't know that you did, come to think of it) you shouldn't tolerate "beating his children" and polygamy lies, either. There's plenty negative to say about Romney and the few positions he's bothered to stake out without having to resort to a smear job. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Romney melts down
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
... In article , No Brain wrote: What could be worse? That he beats his children or that he has more than one wife? The dog-on-the-roof story is terrible, but when you lie about the other stuff it makes the dog-on-the-roof story look dubious, too. I hate cheap-ass smear jobs when you should be talking about the issues. If you thought the Swift Boat attacks on Kerry were awful (and I don't know that you did, come to think of it) you shouldn't tolerate "beating his children" and polygamy lies, either. There's plenty negative to say about Romney and the few positions he's bothered to stake out without having to resort to a smear job. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community I never claimed that he beat his children or that he has more than one wife. I asked what could be worse than the dog story. Has someone been out there saying that Romney beats his kids or has more than one wife? I thought he was the only GOP candidate who has only been married once! As for the "reality-based community", Romney suggested in one of the debates that the reason that we had to invade Iraq was that Iraq would not let UN inspectors in to look for the alleged "weapons of mass destruction". That puts him in the company of people who don't seem to recall that WE threw the inspectors out when they were begging us to let them complete their task. And by the way, the UN inspectors were specifically looking for the alleged WsMD in places where U.S. intelligence supposedly thought they were. The "liberal media" did not jump on Romney for this. Romney also said that we should double the size of the Guantanamo facility, begging the question that the "liberal media" failed to ask in follow-up. -- A. Brain Remove NOSPAM for email. |
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Romney melts down
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A. Brain wrote: I never claimed that he beat his children or that he has more than one wife. I asked what could be worse than the dog story. It wouldn't kill you to take a good, hard look at what you actually wrote. And do it in some other newsgroup - rpdh tends to be higher signal than most other newsgroups and if you crap it up you won't be doing the Democrats or whoever it is you're supporting any favors. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Romney melts down
shut up with the political stuff - this is not a political forum.
buglady take out the dog before replying "A. Brain" wrote in message ... |
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Travel safety (Was Romney melts down)
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
... In article , A. Brain wrote: I never claimed that he beat his children or that he has more than one wife. I asked what could be worse than the dog story. Romney's latest excuse is that the dog enjoyed riding on top of the car. I don't buy that, but this is a guy who will apparently say anything. And even if the dog did enjoy it, it's dangerous. That dog was in danger of severe injury. When I travel with my dog, I make sure he is wearing a seat belt. We've traveled thousands of miles together for the past seven years. Occasionally, he somehow pulls a Houdini and escapes from the belt, usually when we hit a severe thunderstorm. Friends laugh at my dog's seatbelt until I ask them if they use belts for their kids. Here in Texas, it is not uncommon to see dogs as well as children riding in the back of pick-up trucks. I saw a dog literally fall out of a pick-up truck one evening right into the middle of a busy intersection. I stopped and a couple of people helped me get him to safety. It wouldn't kill you to take a good, hard look at what you actually wrote. And do it in some other newsgroup - rpdh tends to be higher signal than most other newsgroups and if you crap it up you won't be doing the Democrats or whoever it is you're supporting any favors. Another self-appointed policeman. When you saw the name "Romney", you might have surmised that there was some political content. I've posted here now and then for seven years. Almost always on topic. And it's been my experience that posts complaining about "off topic" posts tend to cause more disruption, as do personal insults and name-calling. I'm sure you've never posted off-topic--WAY off topic. As for "crapping up" a newsgroup, my post was at least about dogs. And Romney was the one who literally "crapped things up" for his dog. -- A. Brain Remove NOSPAM for email. |
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Travel safety (Was Romney melts down)
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No Brain wrote: I've posted here now and then for seven years. Almost always on topic. Swell - why not post it to comp.unix.wizards? Ever give some thought to why there are newsgroups in the first place? I don't recall having seen your posts before, but if they've all been of the quality of the one recommending that dogs receive a human diet with some dog food thrown in, well, no wonder they're not memorable. Hint: "nutrition". plonk -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Dog food, raw diet. etc. (Was Romney melts down)
"Melinda Shore" wrote in message
... In article , No Brain wrote: I've posted here now and then for seven years. Almost always on topic. Swell - why not post it to comp.unix.wizards? Ever give some thought to why there are newsgroups in the first place? I don't recall having seen your posts before, but if they've all been of the quality of the one recommending that dogs receive a human diet with some dog food thrown in, well, no wonder they're not memorable. Hint: "nutrition". Interesting in that you offered helpful responses to my recent "poop scoop pollution" post. I guess that "crapped up" the newsgroup too? And do you dispute the opinions of the local vet who recommends the "raw diet"? She also offers her opinion that the "processed" food dogs and cats get today are likely responsible for the proliferation of diseases. Here are some excerpts from her article, April 2004, entitled "Real Food for Your Pet". "There may be those of you who remember your grandparents feeding their family pets in much the same manner [60% raw meaty bones and the rest a wide range of good quality human food scraps"]. Those animals enjoyed a nutrient rich diet that allowed them to live a healthy, happy life without the need for drugs and surgeries." She goes on: Both species [dogs and cats] today have suffered from being fed a diet that does not meet their needs. Sadly, I have seen a tremendous decline in the general health of our pets during the 28 years that I have been a veterinarian. Chronic degenerative diseases run rampant. Disease conditions that I did not even study in veterinary college are now a common occurrence." The book cited in my post that you criticize would seem to have been fairly prescient, but never mind about that. -- A. Brain Remove NOSPAM for email. |
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Romney (ng police need not read)
"Rocky" wrote in message
... If you have some sort of compulsion which requires you to post fringe dog "news" to the health group, don't. Take it to rpd.misc or (better yet) alt.test This is a health group whose real users don't need the headache of wading through crap. You don't HAVE to WADE through anything. Or do you have some sort of compulsion to read, er, wade, through everything? What's the average number of posts here per day? Probably less than a dozen. And you got a headache from seeing a post about a politician and his dog? How do you deal with reading a newspaper or watching CNN? Surely you do not read all posts here or anywhere else. I guess one of my first posts here, which offered a detailed explanation of fibrosarcoma, was "crap" because it did not stick strictly to the science of the disease and instead offered some personal experiences as well? Never mind that I still occasionally get private e-mails with questions about that condition based on my post from seven years ago. So I am not a "real user"? Do you read those posts about MI5 or "Men's Underwear" or "Tatoos" or offerings of one of Paul Krugman's columns deriding Milton Friedman? What if someone responded--as I was tempted to do--defending Friedman? Is that the point when the posts become objectionable? Another self-appointed policeman. This is not a newsgroup for professional physicians who treat dogs. Based on my seven years experience here, it is a newsgroup where dog lovers and owners can share concerns and ideas. If you are not interested in "fringe dog news", don't read it. Just skip it. It's harmless. Maybe some want to read it; maybe no one wants to read it. Yet you claim that it hurts you. My experience is that when self-appointed policemen on whatever newsgroup slap others for the content of postings, they tend to intimidate especially newcomers and others and to discourage discussion. So you end up with a little clique right out of middle school--"real users" I guess--where the clique's OT posts or marginal offerings or even personal banter are OK, but those of others are not. For an example, take a look at this 5/21/07 thread, which is certainly not objectionable, is tangentially relevant and topical, but drew no objections from some of the self-appointed police who slapped me for what I still consider to be an "on-topic" post about Romney's carelessness with the family dog. http://tinyurl.com/yq9cj7 Or read some of the follow-up posts in the "how to train your puppy" thread. How do you travel with "Rocky"? THAT might have been a useful response. Sorry if this gave you an additional headache. But you did not HAVE to read it, nor did you HAVE to try to police this group. And by the way, the "policing" did nothing to stop the spam we see here quite often. -- A. Brain Remove NOSPAM for email. |
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Dog food, raw diet. etc. (Was Romney melts down)
A. Brain wrote:
And do you dispute the opinions of the local vet who recommends the "raw diet"? She also offers her opinion that the "processed" food dogs and cats get today are likely responsible for the proliferation of diseases. Here are some excerpts from her article, April 2004, entitled "Real Food for Your Pet". "There may be those of you who remember your grandparents feeding their family pets in much the same manner [60% raw meaty bones and the rest a wide range of good quality human food scraps"]. Those animals enjoyed a nutrient rich diet that allowed them to live a healthy, happy life without the need for drugs and surgeries." She goes on: Both species [dogs and cats] today have suffered from being fed a diet that does not meet their needs. Sadly, I have seen a tremendous decline in the general health of our pets during the 28 years that I have been a veterinarian. Chronic degenerative diseases run rampant. Disease conditions that I did not even study in veterinary college are now a common occurrence." Your vet may be correct in her assessment that much "processed" pet food has contributed to pet disease. But she is also making the mistake of confusing a correlation (more processed food, more degenerative diseases observed) with cause and effect. Pets live longer than they did in my grandparents' time, so she may be seeing more degenerative disease because it often doesn't appear until old age. Pets get more frequent medical care now; if the dog or cat got sick, well, it either recovered or it didn't in my grandparents' day. Many pets probably got more exercise then; they weren't as likely to be confined to an apartment all day. (Of course, if they ran free, as they were likely to, they also were more likely to die from some accident.) I'm no fan of most of the processed foods available today (pet or human). But her arguments (as you presented them, anyhow), don't hold up under a closer look. FurPaw -- The Bush legacy - no child left a dime. To reply, unleash the dog. |
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