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My wife, my dog and I were out on our four mile walk last night, and
we were charged by a GSD that was running free on about a 5 acre yard. Luckily he had a remote trainer on and he yipped when he was about 2 feet from the property line as the owner ran out the garage door, and quickly returned to the owner. This could have been a serious situation though, so it has got me worried. We used to carry a can of mace that my wife had, but she forgot it in her purse the last time we were flying and didn't realize it until we were in the airport so I had to give it to the security guards. I'm glad she realized it because I bet they would be rude if they had found it instead of me handing it to them with a quick explanation. Anyways, given that Yoda is very reactive to large dogs charging at him I was quite happy that he continued healing while ignoring the other dog. But, had the GSD gotten to us and attacked Yoda, I would expect he would no longer ignore him and a fight would break out. This is the second time this has happened to me(last time it was my next door neighbors APBT), so I guess it is shame on me for not preparing myself better after the first.(Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me) I know that there are capsaicin based sprays and citronella sprays for use as dog deterrents. I am looking for any recommendations on brands or the effectiveness of one versus the other. I was sufficiently armed to kill the GSD if it came to that, but for liability reasons I would like a deterrent. And because I love dogs, and do not really want to have to kill one, although I will to protect my family and my dog, I would like to ensure it is as effective of a deterrent as possible. Thanks. Nick |
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ups.com... My wife, my dog and I were out on our four mile walk last night, and we were charged by a GSD that was running free on about a 5 acre yard. Luckily he had a remote trainer on and he yipped when he was about 2 feet from the property line as the owner ran out the garage door, and quickly returned to the owner. This could have been a serious situation though, so it has got me worried. We used to carry a can of mace that my wife had, but she forgot it in her purse the last time we were flying and didn't realize it until we were in the airport so I had to give it to the security guards. I'm glad she realized it because I bet they would be rude if they had found it instead of me handing it to them with a quick explanation. Anyways, given that Yoda is very reactive to large dogs charging at him I was quite happy that he continued healing while ignoring the other dog. But, had the GSD gotten to us and attacked Yoda, I would expect he would no longer ignore him and a fight would break out. This is the second time this has happened to me(last time it was my next door neighbors APBT), so I guess it is shame on me for not preparing myself better after the first.(Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me) I know that there are capsaicin based sprays and citronella sprays for use as dog deterrents. I am looking for any recommendations on brands or the effectiveness of one versus the other. I was sufficiently armed to kill the GSD if it came to that, but for liability reasons I would like a deterrent. And because I love dogs, and do not really want to have to kill one, although I will to protect my family and my dog, I would like to ensure it is as effective of a deterrent as possible. Thanks. Popping an umbrella open at a dog can sometimes deter it. You'll need to check on the legality: Bear repellent Cattle prod Stun gun Taser If you get the impression I wouldn't mess around, you're right ;-). flick 100785 |
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On Jul 13, 3:34 pm, "Many Dogs \(flick\)"
wrote: wrote in message ups.com... My wife, my dog and I were out on our four mile walk last night, and we were charged by a GSD that was running free on about a 5 acre yard. Luckily he had a remote trainer on and he yipped when he was about 2 feet from the property line as the owner ran out the garage door, and quickly returned to the owner. This could have been a serious situation though, so it has got me worried. We used to carry a can of mace that my wife had, but she forgot it in her purse the last time we were flying and didn't realize it until we were in the airport so I had to give it to the security guards. I'm glad she realized it because I bet they would be rude if they had found it instead of me handing it to them with a quick explanation. Anyways, given that Yoda is very reactive to large dogs charging at him I was quite happy that he continued healing while ignoring the other dog. But, had the GSD gotten to us and attacked Yoda, I would expect he would no longer ignore him and a fight would break out. This is the second time this has happened to me(last time it was my next door neighbors APBT), so I guess it is shame on me for not preparing myself better after the first.(Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me) I know that there are capsaicin based sprays and citronella sprays for use as dog deterrents. I am looking for any recommendations on brands or the effectiveness of one versus the other. I was sufficiently armed to kill the GSD if it came to that, but for liability reasons I would like a deterrent. And because I love dogs, and do not really want to have to kill one, although I will to protect my family and my dog, I would like to ensure it is as effective of a deterrent as possible. Thanks. Popping an umbrella open at a dog can sometimes deter it. You'll need to check on the legality: Bear repellent Cattle prod Stun gun Taser If you get the impression I wouldn't mess around, you're right ;-). flick 100785 Bear repellent is legal, which is what I am thinking, my only problem with it is the cans are always so large. Tasers are not, where I live. I don't have a clue on the legality of carrying a cattle prod down the road, although I see nothing wrong with it. Stun guns are legal but I don't think one will work, because in my situation I would need to be able to deter the dog at least 4 feet from me since Yoda is reactive to being charged. Thanks for the advice. Nick |
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On Jul 13, 12:02 pm, "
wrote: My wife, my dog and I were out on our four mile walk last night, and we were charged by a GSD that was running free on about a 5 acre yard. Luckily he had a remote trainer on and he yipped when he was about 2 feet from the property line as the owner ran out the garage door, and quickly returned to the owner. This could have been a serious situation though, so it has got me worried. We used to carry a can of mace that my wife had, but she forgot it in her purse the last time we were flying and didn't realize it until we were in the airport so I had to give it to the security guards. I'm glad she realized it because I bet they would be rude if they had found it instead of me handing it to them with a quick explanation. Anyways, given that Yoda is very reactive to large dogs charging at him I was quite happy that he continued healing while ignoring the other dog. But, had the GSD gotten to us and attacked Yoda, I would expect he would no longer ignore him and a fight would break out. This is the second time this has happened to me(last time it was my next door neighbors APBT), so I guess it is shame on me for not preparing myself better after the first.(Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me) I know that there are capsaicin based sprays and citronella sprays for use as dog deterrents. I am looking for any recommendations on brands or the effectiveness of one versus the other. I was sufficiently armed to kill the GSD if it came to that, but for liability reasons I would like a deterrent. And because I love dogs, and do not really want to have to kill one, although I will to protect my family and my dog, I would like to ensure it is as effective of a deterrent as possible. Thanks. Nick Ammonia in a squirt bottle works well. Once they try that, they will avoid you like the plague. I would walk by half hoping for the culprits to come out to teach them this lesson. Of course the owner will be livid if you do it. In rural Indiana a few years ago, a neighbor shot and killed another neighbor's dog, to which the owner responded by shooting and killing the man. It really isn't worth it. I would stop by and in your most pleasant demeaner explain how you are concerned for your family and dog. After that, call the police if it doesn't get solved. That's the neighborly thing to do. dkw |
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Kathleen wrote: I traveled from St. Louis to Chicago to Madrid, to Morocco, to Gibraltar, each destination round trip, and was never once challenged by customs agents. My experience has been that the TSA officers at small regional airports tend to be a lot more diligent. On the other hand, I've found that the Customs and Immigration folks at road border crossings from Canada tend to be fussier at major crossings and incredibly lackadaisical at small ones. The way "Homeland Security" is being executed has a good amount of kabuki to it, although it's pretty good at eliminating low-hanging fruit (people too stupid to avoid doing something obvious). And this is just a guess but I would guess that it's a lot more likely that your contraband would have been caught if you'd been a swarthy male. Anyway, I wouldn't assume that you can usually get through inspection with something like pepper spray. Better to leave it at home. Also, in Europe when you set off a metal detector rather than asking you to empty your pockets and step through again they go straight to the pat-down. It happened to me once and I found it pretty invasive. That's a funny story about the metal detector being off, though. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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Melinda Shore wrote:
In article , Kathleen wrote: I traveled from St. Louis to Chicago to Madrid, to Morocco, to Gibraltar, each destination round trip, and was never once challenged by customs agents. My experience has been that the TSA officers at small regional airports tend to be a lot more diligent. On the other hand, I've found that the Customs and Immigration folks at road border crossings from Canada tend to be fussier at major crossings and incredibly lackadaisical at small ones. The way "Homeland Security" is being executed has a good amount of kabuki to it, although it's pretty good at eliminating low-hanging fruit (people too stupid to avoid doing something obvious). And this is just a guess but I would guess that it's a lot more likely that your contraband would have been caught if you'd been a swarthy male. My 12 year-old son is a moderately swarthy type (as is his mother, but for some foils in copper and gold). When I escorted him through the metal detecters to wait with him at the gates for his flight to Phoenix to visit Grandma et. al. his backpack freaked the screener right out. She hit the stop button on the conveyor belt and hollered for a supervisor in a voice that brooked no discussion about priorities. I stepped a few feet down conveyor and leaned in and peeked around to see the screen she was viewing. Aw, crap. Video games. One full-sized system with four sets of cables and controllers, two hand-held games, cartridges and chargers for everything... It looked like an octopus orgy on the screen. The supervisor arrived; I offered to unpack the bag for inspection and was told to take two steps back *right now*. The supervisor gingerly unzipped the backpack and then cautiously dunked a white disk, smaller than a cd, into the opened mouth of the bag. The disk was slotted into some kind of reader behind him. He studied the output display for a second then dived into the pack like a beagle going after a rabbit. The contents were as I'd described so he waved us through. For me it brought home the true horror of terrorism. I hate living in a world where a kid being checked onto a flight by his mother - his own biological mother - had to be considered a suicide bombing risk. Anyway, I wouldn't assume that you can usually get through inspection with something like pepper spray. Better to leave it at home. Also, in Europe when you set off a metal detector rather than asking you to empty your pockets and step through again they go straight to the pat-down. It happened to me once and I found it pretty invasive. Yeah, I've been patted down and it happened when I was reporting for jury duty right here at home. And while it was invasive it wasn't lewd and so I utilized the same mental trick that serves so well during the annual poke-n-gope exam at the OBGyn - I just went bye-bye for a minute. Never did figure out what was setting the thing off. That's a funny story about the metal detector being off, though. Yeah. They had the whole crew there, people sitting behind the x-ray machine, officers standing beside the gate. Silly and scary all at once. |
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Kathleen wrote: The supervisor arrived; I offered to unpack the bag for inspection and was told to take two steps back *right now*. The supervisor gingerly unzipped the backpack and then cautiously dunked a white disk, smaller than a cd, into the opened mouth of the bag. The disk was slotted into some kind of reader behind him. He studied the output display for a second then dived into the pack like a beagle going after a rabbit. The contents were as I'd described so he waved us through. Crikey. How'd your son take it? Was this out of St Louis too? I avoid flying through St Louis because it's got a really intolerable level of dumbf*ck airport staff, whether it's the security folks, the ticket agents, whatever - they nearly all suck in a way that you occasionally glimpse in other airports but never, ever see in such huge aggregate. The suckiness of the St Louis airport has such enormous mass that it's got its own gravitational field. For me it brought home the true horror of terrorism. Hmmm. That kind of stuff is par for the course flying out of Ben Gurion, in a country where you really do have little kids committing bombings. About a month after 9/11 I was on a flight from Raleigh/Durham up to LaGuardia, and I looked out the window and saw an F-15 just off our wing. Someone on the other side of the aisle said there was another one on that side. When we landed we were told that it was opening night of the World Series, which was in NYC and in which President Bush was throwing out the first ball, and since the ANG jets were going up to patrol NY airspace anyway they decided to escort us. But a bunch of us did spend some time trying to decide whether or not we should be worried. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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