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Rat terriers
Pet store dogs come from puppy mills where the people that breed them have
no interest in conforming to any sort of breed standard. wrote in message ... I'm just curious... I work at a pet store and all I know about these dogs is every single one is as needy as my little siamese and they all look vastly different. Some are as big as fox terriers, others as small as chihuahuas. Some look like fox terriers with long muzzles and others have the pop up eyes and short muzzles of chihuahuas. I think I even saw one that looked like a Jack Russel Terrier. I'm not interested in getting one. I'm just interested in if they are a real breed, are they trying to become one, or are they just a mixed breed dog given a name that doesn't splice the names fo the dogs used to "create" it (like cock-a-poo or schnoodle)? I mean there seems to be no standard to them at all except for the needy personality (though that in itself seems to be amazingly the same with all of them). Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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bmuesli wrote:
Pet store dogs come from puppy mills where the people that breed them have no interest in conforming to any sort of breed standard. My store doesn't sell dogs but it allows people to bring them in. Therefore I see these dogs quite a bit btu I could not tell you if they came from a pet store, breeder, shelter, or what. Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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okay!
wrote in message ... bmuesli wrote: Pet store dogs come from puppy mills where the people that breed them have no interest in conforming to any sort of breed standard. My store doesn't sell dogs but it allows people to bring them in. Therefore I see these dogs quite a bit btu I could not tell you if they came from a pet store, breeder, shelter, or what. Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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there's a big difference between a "type" and a mixed breed dog like a "cock-a-poo". There's also the fact that the dogs are being sold in a PET STORE- which means they're coming from bad breeders (most likely puppymillers) and are unlikely to be meeting standard in any case. An acquaintence of mine has two Poms that were purchased from a Just Puppies, and while they're nice little dogs, they're also pretty poor specimens of the breed. |
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Hi,
Rat Terriers are a true breed. Hunting instinct is more important than a particular "look". As in other breeds such as the Schnauzer & Poodle, there are different sizes of the breed, but they are all still Rat Terriers. I grew up with a very large RT (~ 30 lbs) who would have probably made a great hunting dog, but true to breed, was hyper, noisy & loved to chase & kill small furry things. Rat Terriers are generally very intelligent & affectionate dogs, but being terriers, they are usually not afraid of anything, extremely high energy & very vocal. They also usually housetrain very easily. Another good source of information on Rat Terriers is the American Rat Terrier Rescue website (www.americanratterrier.com). They are definitely not a breed for someone looking for a laid back, easygoing dog. Pam Lowrey a.k.a. "Dog Trainer" "culprit" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I'm not interested in getting one. I'm just interested in if they are a real breed, are they trying to become one, or are they just a mixed breed dog given a name that doesn't splice the names fo the dogs used to "create" it (like cock-a-poo or schnoodle)? I mean there seems to be no standard to them at all except for the needy personality (though that in itself seems to be amazingly the same with all of them). interesting, it looks like they're more of a "type" than a breed (see "feist" dogs for more info), but they do have a breed club and standard: http://www.ratterrierclub.com/standard/index.html. looks like there's a miniature rat terrier as well, which would account for the variation in size. they're not recognized by the AKC, but are recognized by the UKC: http://www.ukcdogs.com/breeds/terrie...rier.std.shtml. .... or at least that's my take on it. :-) -kelly |
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"PML" wrote in message
m... Hi, Rat Terriers are a true breed. Hunting instinct is more important than a particular "look". As in other breeds such as the Schnauzer & Poodle, there are different sizes of the breed, but they are all still Rat Terriers. Just to clarify - there are three separate breeds of schnauzer. They are not the same breed but just different sizes. They are distinct and separate breeds. So they are not like the Rat Terriers in that respect. ~~Judy |
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"sionnach" wrote in message ... there's a big difference between a "type" and a mixed breed dog like a "cock-a-poo". There's also the fact that the dogs are being sold in a PET STORE- which means they're coming from bad breeders (most likely puppymillers) and are unlikely to be meeting standard in any case. An acquaintence of mine has two Poms that were purchased from a Just Puppies, and while they're nice little dogs, they're also pretty poor specimens of the breed. i don't think the OP knows where the rat terriers mentioned were purchased. as i read it, she works in a pet supply store, and someone brought the dogs in. -kelly |
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culprit wrote:
i don't think the OP knows where the rat terriers mentioned were purchased. as i read it, she works in a pet supply store, and someone brought the dogs in. Yep. People bring in their dogs. I get to see them. Not all pet stores sell dogs. Mine does sell birds/fish/small mammals(gerbils,hamsters), but not cats and dogs. They do have an adoption center wher ethey allow the Humane society to show off cats that need to be adopted (no dogs, no facilities for them. Sometimes rescues come in on the weekends with dogs). Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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Unfortunately, though, most of the Rat Terriers Alice sees in the store
are from puppymills and BYB's.... Rat Terrier rescue seems to be every bit as busy as JRT rescue.... These are Tough Dogs... just usually fairly small. Alice... they seem "needy" because this breed is designed to work solely with humans in a hunting environment.... squirrel and rabbit dogs, vermin control.... They are not fox hunting terriers and not earthdogs in the classical use of that term. Jo Wolf Martinez, Georgia |
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