On Aug 3, 7:28?pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:
Man mauled to death at Ving Rhames' home

a.. Dogs kill man at Ving Rhames' L.A. house

b.. Man was caretaker at house

c.. Rhames, known for "Mission: Impossible," not at home when attack occurred
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Dogs apparently belonging to "Mission:
Impossible" star Ving Rhames attacked and killed a caretaker at the actor's Los
Angeles home Friday, police said.

The caretaker, who was not immediately identified by name, was found dead in
front of Rhames' gated home in an expensive Brentwood neighborhood, Los Angeles
police spokeswoman Sandra Gonzalez said.

"This morning at 7:15 a.m. we got a call of a dead body" at Rhames' home,
Gonzalez said. "We found the body of a male, approximately 40 years old, on the
front lawn, who had been mauled by dogs."

She said the caretaker was pronounced dead at the scene and there was no one
else around when officers arrived.

Four dogs, at least two of them mastiffs, were taken away by animal control
officers. It was not immediately clear who had called police, or how many dogs
had mauled the caretaker, who had worked for Rhames for two years.

She said Rhames, known for starring in "Pulp Fiction" and alongside Tom Cruise
in all three "Mission: Impossible" movies, was not home when officers arrived.

Representatives for the 46-year-old actor, who according to news reports was out
of the country shooting a movie, had no immediate comment.

Rhames has a long list of film and television credits and won a Golden Globe for
starring as Don King in a 1997 TV movie about the flamboyant boxing promoter. He
was nominated for an Emmy for the same role.

Gonzalez said an investigation by Los Angeles police detectives was under way
and that no further details were immediately available.

Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

On Aug 3, 6:31 pm, Red wrote:
On Aug 3, 7:28?pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:





Man mauled to death at Ving Rhames' home

a.. Dogs kill man at Ving Rhames' L.A. house

b.. Man was caretaker at house

c.. Rhames, known for "Mission: Impossible," not at home when attack occurred
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Dogs apparently belonging to "Mission:
Impossible" star Ving Rhames attacked and killed a caretaker at the actor's Los
Angeles home Friday, police said.

The caretaker, who was not immediately identified by name, was found dead in
front of Rhames' gated home in an expensive Brentwood neighborhood, Los Angeles
police spokeswoman Sandra Gonzalez said.

"This morning at 7:15 a.m. we got a call of a dead body" at Rhames' home,
Gonzalez said. "We found the body of a male, approximately 40 years old, on the
front lawn, who had been mauled by dogs."

She said the caretaker was pronounced dead at the scene and there was no one
else around when officers arrived.

Four dogs, at least two of them mastiffs, were taken away by animal control
officers. It was not immediately clear who had called police, or how many dogs
had mauled the caretaker, who had worked for Rhames for two years.

She said Rhames, known for starring in "Pulp Fiction" and alongside Tom Cruise
in all three "Mission: Impossible" movies, was not home when officers arrived.

Representatives for the 46-year-old actor, who according to news reports was out
of the country shooting a movie, had no immediate comment.

Rhames has a long list of film and television credits and won a Golden Globe for
starring as Don King in a 1997 TV movie about the flamboyant boxing promoter. He
was nominated for an Emmy for the same role.

Gonzalez said an investigation by Los Angeles police detectives was under way
and that no further details were immediately available.

Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

Most homeowners policies will cover that kind of loss. I have no idea
what his house looks like, but I'll guess it's worth several million
dollars and thus his policy limits will be adequate to cover whatever
amount is negotiated. Typically these are based on future earnings
(with an extra percentage tacked on for pain/suffering/loss of
consortium.etc.) and you're looking at a victim who is already halfway
through his working life and probably didn't earn that much per
year.

Bottom line; about the only cost to Rhames will be flowers and a
card.


Bo Raxo

"Bo Raxo" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 3, 6:31 pm, Red wrote:
On Aug 3, 7:28?pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:





Man mauled to death at Ving Rhames' home

a.. Dogs kill man at Ving Rhames' L.A. house

b.. Man was caretaker at house

c.. Rhames, known for "Mission: Impossible," not at home when attack
occurred
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Dogs apparently belonging to
"Mission:
Impossible" star Ving Rhames attacked and killed a caretaker at the
actor's Los
Angeles home Friday, police said.

The caretaker, who was not immediately identified by name, was found
dead in
front of Rhames' gated home in an expensive Brentwood neighborhood,
Los Angeles
police spokeswoman Sandra Gonzalez said.

"This morning at 7:15 a.m. we got a call of a dead body" at Rhames'
home,
Gonzalez said. "We found the body of a male, approximately 40 years
old, on the
front lawn, who had been mauled by dogs."

She said the caretaker was pronounced dead at the scene and there was
no one
else around when officers arrived.

Four dogs, at least two of them mastiffs, were taken away by animal
control
officers. It was not immediately clear who had called police, or how
many dogs
had mauled the caretaker, who had worked for Rhames for two years.

She said Rhames, known for starring in "Pulp Fiction" and alongside
Tom Cruise
in all three "Mission: Impossible" movies, was not home when officers
arrived.

Representatives for the 46-year-old actor, who according to news
reports was out
of the country shooting a movie, had no immediate comment.

Rhames has a long list of film and television credits and won a Golden
Globe for
starring as Don King in a 1997 TV movie about the flamboyant boxing
promoter. He
was nominated for an Emmy for the same role.

Gonzalez said an investigation by Los Angeles police detectives was
under way
and that no further details were immediately available.

Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

Most homeowners policies will cover that kind of loss.


He probably has an *excess liability* policy that covers things like this,


td

On Aug 3, 6:44 pm, "tiny dancer" wrote:
"Bo Raxo" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Aug 3, 6:31 pm, Red wrote:


Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

Most homeowners policies will cover that kind of loss.

He probably has an *excess liability* policy that covers things like this,


And a publicist/spokesperson, to provide an "excess deniability"
policy.


Bo Raxo

"Red" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 3, 7:28?pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:
Man mauled to death at Ving Rhames' home

a.. Dogs kill man at Ving Rhames' L.A. house

b.. Man was caretaker at house

c.. Rhames, known for "Mission: Impossible," not at home when attack
occurred
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Dogs apparently belonging to
"Mission:
Impossible" star Ving Rhames attacked and killed a caretaker at the
actor's Los
Angeles home Friday, police said.

The caretaker, who was not immediately identified by name, was found dead
in
front of Rhames' gated home in an expensive Brentwood neighborhood, Los
Angeles
police spokeswoman Sandra Gonzalez said.

"This morning at 7:15 a.m. we got a call of a dead body" at Rhames' home,
Gonzalez said. "We found the body of a male, approximately 40 years old,
on the
front lawn, who had been mauled by dogs."

She said the caretaker was pronounced dead at the scene and there was no
one
else around when officers arrived.

Four dogs, at least two of them mastiffs, were taken away by animal
control
officers. It was not immediately clear who had called police, or how many
dogs
had mauled the caretaker, who had worked for Rhames for two years.

She said Rhames, known for starring in "Pulp Fiction" and alongside Tom
Cruise
in all three "Mission: Impossible" movies, was not home when officers
arrived.

Representatives for the 46-year-old actor, who according to news reports
was out
of the country shooting a movie, had no immediate comment.

Rhames has a long list of film and television credits and won a Golden
Globe for
starring as Don King in a 1997 TV movie about the flamboyant boxing
promoter. He
was nominated for an Emmy for the same role.

Gonzalez said an investigation by Los Angeles police detectives was under
way
and that no further details were immediately available.

Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

Litigious for a small minded wimp aren't you?

tiny dancer wrote:
"Bo Raxo" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Aug 3, 6:31 pm, Red wrote:
On Aug 3, 7:28?pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:





Man mauled to death at Ving Rhames' home

a.. Dogs kill man at Ving Rhames' L.A. house

b.. Man was caretaker at house

c.. Rhames, known for "Mission: Impossible," not at home when
attack occurred LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Dogs
apparently belonging to "Mission: Impossible" star Ving Rhames
attacked and killed a caretaker at the actor's Los Angeles home
Friday, police said.

The caretaker, who was not immediately identified by name, was
found dead in front of Rhames' gated home in an expensive
Brentwood neighborhood, Los Angeles police spokeswoman Sandra
Gonzalez said.

"This morning at 7:15 a.m. we got a call of a dead body" at
Rhames' home, Gonzalez said. "We found the body of a male,
approximately 40 years old, on the front lawn, who had been mauled
by dogs."

She said the caretaker was pronounced dead at the scene and there
was no one else around when officers arrived.

Four dogs, at least two of them mastiffs, were taken away by
animal control officers. It was not immediately clear who had
called police, or how many dogs had mauled the caretaker, who had
worked for Rhames for two years.

She said Rhames, known for starring in "Pulp Fiction" and
alongside Tom Cruise in all three "Mission: Impossible" movies,
was not home when officers arrived.

Representatives for the 46-year-old actor, who according to news
reports was out of the country shooting a movie, had no immediate
comment.

Rhames has a long list of film and television credits and won a
Golden Globe for starring as Don King in a 1997 TV movie about the
flamboyant boxing promoter. He was nominated for an Emmy for the
same role.

Gonzalez said an investigation by Los Angeles police detectives
was under way and that no further details were immediately
available.

Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

Most homeowners policies will cover that kind of loss.

Bottom line; about the only cost to Rhames will be flowers and a card.

He probably has an *excess liability* policy that covers things like
this,

LOL! ... how much you think flowers and a card cost ?

comadrejo wrote:
In article .com,
Bo Raxo wrote:

On Aug 3, 6:31 pm, Red wrote:
On Aug 3, 7:28?pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:





Man mauled to death at Ving Rhames' home

a.. Dogs kill man at Ving Rhames' L.A. house

b.. Man was caretaker at house

c.. Rhames, known for "Mission: Impossible," not at home when
attack occurred
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Dogs apparently belonging to
"Mission:
Impossible" star Ving Rhames attacked and killed a caretaker at the
actor's Los
Angeles home Friday, police said.

The caretaker, who was not immediately identified by name, was
found dead in
front of Rhames' gated home in an expensive Brentwood
neighborhood, Los Angeles
police spokeswoman Sandra Gonzalez said.

"This morning at 7:15 a.m. we got a call of a dead body" at
Rhames' home, Gonzalez said. "We found the body of a male,
approximately 40 years old, on the
front lawn, who had been mauled by dogs."

She said the caretaker was pronounced dead at the scene and there
was no one
else around when officers arrived.

Four dogs, at least two of them mastiffs, were taken away by animal
control
officers. It was not immediately clear who had called police, or
how many dogs
had mauled the caretaker, who had worked for Rhames for two years.

She said Rhames, known for starring in "Pulp Fiction" and
alongside Tom Cruise
in all three "Mission: Impossible" movies, was not home when
officers arrived.

Representatives for the 46-year-old actor, who according to news
reports was out
of the country shooting a movie, had no immediate comment.

Rhames has a long list of film and television credits and won a
Golden Globe for
starring as Don King in a 1997 TV movie about the flamboyant boxing
promoter. He
was nominated for an Emmy for the same role.

Gonzalez said an investigation by Los Angeles police detectives
was under way
and that no further details were immediately available.

Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

Most homeowners policies will cover that kind of loss. I have no
idea what his house looks like, but I'll guess it's worth several
million dollars and thus his policy limits will be adequate to cover
whatever amount is negotiated. Typically these are based on future
earnings (with an extra percentage tacked on for pain/suffering/loss
of consortium.etc.) and you're looking at a victim who is already
halfway through his working life and probably didn't earn that much
per
year.

Bottom line; about the only cost to Rhames will be flowers and a
card.


My guess also, from the Insurance Company's standpoint, how he died
could limit the liability payout.

Do tell ?

If the caretaker died from a heart attack,

No, he died from a dog attack.

the Insurance company may limit the payment to the caretaker
benefactors, or if it went to trial, homeowner's insurance liability
could be limited...

Why ?

On Aug 4, 1:36 am, "¥ UltraMan ¥" wrote:
comadrejo wrote:
In article .com,
Bo Raxo wrote:

On Aug 3, 6:31 pm, Red wrote:
On Aug 3, 7:28?pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:

Man mauled to death at Ving Rhames' home

a.. Dogs kill man at Ving Rhames' L.A. house

b.. Man was caretaker at house

c.. Rhames, known for "Mission: Impossible," not at home when
attack occurred
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Dogs apparently belonging to
"Mission:
Impossible" star Ving Rhames attacked and killed a caretaker at the
actor's Los
Angeles home Friday, police said.

The caretaker, who was not immediately identified by name, was
found dead in
front of Rhames' gated home in an expensive Brentwood
neighborhood, Los Angeles
police spokeswoman Sandra Gonzalez said.

"This morning at 7:15 a.m. we got a call of a dead body" at
Rhames' home, Gonzalez said. "We found the body of a male,
approximately 40 years old, on the
front lawn, who had been mauled by dogs."

She said the caretaker was pronounced dead at the scene and there
was no one
else around when officers arrived.

Four dogs, at least two of them mastiffs, were taken away by animal
control
officers. It was not immediately clear who had called police, or
how many dogs
had mauled the caretaker, who had worked for Rhames for two years.

She said Rhames, known for starring in "Pulp Fiction" and
alongside Tom Cruise
in all three "Mission: Impossible" movies, was not home when
officers arrived.

Representatives for the 46-year-old actor, who according to news
reports was out
of the country shooting a movie, had no immediate comment.

Rhames has a long list of film and television credits and won a
Golden Globe for
starring as Don King in a 1997 TV movie about the flamboyant boxing
promoter. He
was nominated for an Emmy for the same role.

Gonzalez said an investigation by Los Angeles police detectives
was under way
and that no further details were immediately available.

Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

Most homeowners policies will cover that kind of loss. I have no
idea what his house looks like, but I'll guess it's worth several
million dollars and thus his policy limits will be adequate to cover
whatever amount is negotiated. Typically these are based on future
earnings (with an extra percentage tacked on for pain/suffering/loss
of consortium.etc.) and you're looking at a victim who is already
halfway through his working life and probably didn't earn that much
per
year.

Bottom line; about the only cost to Rhames will be flowers and a
card.

My guess also, from the Insurance Company's standpoint, how he died
could limit the liability payout.

Do tell ?

If the caretaker died from a heart attack,

No, he died from a dog attack.

His death certificate might list that as a secondary or tertiary cause
of death, but the primary cause of death will be something like blood
loss, heart failure, traumatic head injury, whatever primary system
failure caused his direct expiration.


the Insurance company may limit the payment to the caretaker
benefactors, or if it went to trial, homeowner's insurance liability
could be limited...

Why ?

Because they can argue that if a heart condition killed him, it would
have killed him before long anyway. It's a great tactic for an
attorney facing a case where his or her client is going to lose: find
an argument that the actual losses should be much smaller, and either
hope the jury splits the difference or use it as leverage to negotiate
a lower settlement. I'm not an attorney, but business is business,
you look for something to anchor an opposite end position and
negotiate the best middle ground deal you can get.

In article .com,
Red wrote:

Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.

Why?

In article ,
comadrejo wrote:

In article .com,
Bo Raxo wrote:

Most homeowners policies will cover that kind of loss. I have no idea
what his house looks like, but I'll guess it's worth several million
dollars and thus his policy limits will be adequate to cover whatever
amount is negotiated. Typically these are based on future earnings
(with an extra percentage tacked on for pain/suffering/loss of
consortium.etc.) and you're looking at a victim who is already halfway
through his working life and probably didn't earn that much per
year.

Bottom line; about the only cost to Rhames will be flowers and a
card.


My guess also, from the Insurance Company's standpoint, how he died
could limit the liability payout. If the caretaker died from a heart
attack, the Insurance company may limit the payment to the caretaker
benefactors, or if it went to trial, homeowner's insurance liability
could be limited...

It also matters whether the caretaker was negligent in his own death.
Rhames could have done everything right, locked up the dogs, etc. before
he left to go shoot his movie and if the caretaker was the one who
carelessly let them out or did anything which provoked them to attack,
Rhames bears no responsibility whatsoever. Until the investigation is
over, it's silly to assume Rhames (or his insurance company) will have
to pay out.