i have a 9 year old beagle named Max (female). i have had her since
she was 8 weeks old. i take her out to pee and poo and sometimes she
will go sometimes not. sometimes i take her out, she dont do anything,
we come inside and she goes on the floor.
she will go in the house during the night.
she eats all my food. in the past week she has eaten a box of good and
plenty, a whole bag of oreos cookies, and a loaf of bread. i'm on food
stamps and cant afford this!

Ted LeBlond spoke these words of wisdom in
ups.com:

i have a 9 year old beagle named Max (female). i have had her since
she was 8 weeks old. i take her out to pee and poo and sometimes she
will go sometimes not. sometimes i take her out, she dont do anything,
we come inside and she goes on the floor.
she will go in the house during the night.
she eats all my food. in the past week she has eaten a box of good and
plenty, a whole bag of oreos cookies, and a loaf of bread. i'm on food
stamps and cant afford this!



put the food where she cannot reach it. Has she peed and pooed on the floor
for all nine years?
If so, why worry about it now? It's unlikely you will change anything at
that age. If it's a new behavior, your dog needs to see a vet. If you cannot
afford a vet, put the dog down.

On Oct 10, 9:06 pm, diddy none wrote:

put the dog down.

WHAT A NICE KIND CARING PERSON YOU MUST BE. WHY DONT YOU PUT YOURSELF
DOWN. AND I DO PUT THE FOOD WHERE SHE CANT GET IT. YOU LIKE STUPID OR
SOMETHING?

In article . com,
Ted LeBlond wrote:

WHAT A NICE KIND CARING PERSON YOU MUST BE. WHY DONT YOU PUT YOURSELF
DOWN.

I don't always agree with Diddy, but I know that she _always_ has the
best interest of the dog at heart. She's pointed out that if your dog
has just developed this behavior, she needs to see a vet. I agree with
that. Could be something as simple as a UTI but it needs to be treated.

And if you can't afford to take her to a vet, and can't find any other
way to get her the medical attention she needs, then it is kinder to put
the dog down rather than let her suffer. I'm not sure I'd go that far
without more information about your dog's quality of life, but I do
think I know how Diddy meant what she said.

AND I DO PUT THE FOOD WHERE SHE CANT GET IT. YOU LIKE STUPID OR
SOMETHING?

And on this, if you were indeed putting the food where the dog can't get
it, she wouldn't be able to eat it. Since she is, obviously you aren't.
What you probably really mean is that you are putting the food where she
shouldn't be *able* to get it, which isn't the same thing at all. I
know this from experience, both with my own dogs and with some I've
taken care of...they've gotten into places I would never have thought
they could, but now I know what their limits are and am able to keep
everything securely out of reach, at least as long as they develop
thumbs. Heck, even doing something as simple as putting the cookies on
top of the refrigerator will keep almost all dogs out of them.

If you want to give us more information about Max, such as how long this
behavior has been going on, there might still be a few people willing to
offer suggestions.
--
Kevin Michael Vail | I would rather have a mind opened by wonder
| than one closed by belief. -- Gerry Spence

"Ted LeBlond" wrote in message
ups.com...
i have a 9 year old beagle named Max (female). i have had her since
she was 8 weeks old. i take her out to pee and poo and sometimes she
will go sometimes not. sometimes i take her out, she dont do anything,
we come inside and she goes on the floor.
she will go in the house during the night.
she eats all my food. in the past week she has eaten a box of good and
plenty, a whole bag of oreos cookies, and a loaf of bread. i'm on food
stamps and cant afford this!


There might be enough chocolate in the Oreos to have caused a toxic
reaction in your dog. See:
http://www.sugarstand.com/articles/why-dogs-cannot-eat-chocolates.htm

I'm not sure if the licorice in the G&Ps is toxic, but it could cause
diarrhea that might explain her sudden onset of housetraining accidents.

There is some mention of toxicity in the following discussions:
http://www.tonyspencer.com/2007/10/03/this-plant-will-kill-your-dog-and-maybe-your-kids/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6227692/page/2/

But licorice (root) can also be a health supplement:
http://www.holisticdog.com/
http://www.earthpower.com/en/licorice.htm



My "out of control" dog Muttley has been very good about not eating things
I have left out, including cookies, cake, dog treats, dog food, and other
tempting things. But he will sometimes counter surf if there is cheese or
meat easily available. And of course he considers anything I have thrown in
the trash fair game.

He has been 100% reliable for over a year being left in the house alone for
up to 12 hours or more. He lets me know when he wants to go out, and he
will pee and poop during our short walks. It took him a while before he
would poop, however, as he had been used to doing that when I let him out
back on a tether. I think it takes a level of trust for a dog to poop while
you are watching.

If his housetraining reliability changed, I would certainly suspect a
medical problem and take him to a vet. If he started getting into my food,
I would try to stop that by training, and more simply by just keeping it
where he can't get it. But I think he knows that he should only eat what I
give him.

And, finally, you should not lash out at people like Diddy, who gave good
advice, but can be a bit blunt. I sense that you are frustrated and angry,
and dogs can react badly to that as well.

Good luck with your dog,

Paul and Muttley

Ted LeBlond spoke these words of wisdom in
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On Oct 10, 9:06 pm, diddy none wrote:

put the dog down.

WHAT A NICE KIND CARING PERSON YOU MUST BE. WHY DONT YOU PUT YOURSELF
DOWN. AND I DO PUT THE FOOD WHERE SHE CANT GET IT. YOU LIKE STUPID OR
SOMETHING?



You ignored all the qualifying questions. So I had to go through a lot of
stages of assumptions to get to my answer, and I'm assuming a lot, because
I was left to fill in the blanks. So I'm sorry. Here is my rationalization.

ARE THESE NEW BEHAVIORS? IF YES ...GO TO THE VET!!!!!
ALWAYS CHECK OUT NEW BEHAVIOR CHANGES BY GOING TO THE VET. It's usually an
indication that something is wrong.

You mentioned your low income, so NOT being stupid, I knew the next answer
was, I don't have money to go to the vet.

rational thinking... dog is in trouble, owner can't afford vet...Or won't
spend money on vet, because if you would/could, the dog would already be at
the vets and you wouldn't be asking here. (just giving you credit for not
being stupid)

If there are life changing behaviors (assuming these behaviors have not
been present for 9 years, because if you were smart, you would have done
something about it by now), then the dog is showing age related issues that
you probably can't afford to fix.

Hence.. if you can't afford a vet.. PLEASE DON'T ALLOW YOUR DOG TO SUFFER.

OK and the question of the food stealing beagle. Isaid put the food where
she couldn't get it.
You said you weren't stupid, and you had the food where she couldn't get
it.

MY next question is (before I'm left to my own devices and assuming again)
How did she get the food if it wasn't where she couldn't get it?

I'm apologizing for my hasty answers. So let's do this again, Please? Fill
in the blanks.

How did your dog get the food that was placed where she couldn't get it?

Are her potty methods and problematic behaviors new?

"Ted LeBlond" wrote in message
ups.com...
i have a 9 year old beagle named Max (female). i have had her since
she was 8 weeks old. i take her out to pee and poo and sometimes she
will go sometimes not. sometimes i take her out, she dont do anything,
we come inside and she goes on the floor.
she will go in the house during the night.
she eats all my food. in the past week she has eaten a box of good and
plenty, a whole bag of oreos cookies, and a loaf of bread. i'm on food
stamps and cant afford this!
============
When you take her out, do you walk her someplace other than her own yard?
If not, try walking her more often instead of just letting her out by
herself. Many dogs won't do anything if they are just turned out by
themselves, but will go, if they are walking with their humans..
Keep her in a blocked off room or an appropriate size dog crate at night
time. Dogs don't mess in their crates. If you can't afford a crate, you
could check out the yard sales, recycle web sites in your local area, and
craig's list for your area on the internet.
Find some way of keeping your food up high or enclosed in a cabinet or box.
A Beagle is a small dog and will not be able to reach anything if it is put
up high enough where it cannot climb.
Don't let the dog eat junk food. Some dogs will eat everything in site if
given the opportunity and then get sick.
Make sure you feed the dog the appropriate amount for a dog that size twice
a day at the same times each day, so that it is not hungry.
The dog may have a physical problem now that it is aging, and should be
checked over by a vet. Many older dogs cannot control their bladders and
bowels.
If you don't have much money, then ask the vet if you could make installment
payments on the bill instead of paying it all at once.
I wonder if you called your local shelter and the local Humane Society, and
let them know your financial situation and that you are on food stamps and
are in need of low-cost veterinary care for your elderly dog, if they could
recommend a place where you could take your dog for some help. It might be
worth a try.

In article ,
"pfoley" wrote:


Make sure you feed the dog the appropriate amount for a dog that size twice
a day at the same times each day, so that it is not hungry.

Sorry - this struck me as pretty funny. For many dogs, a full tummy is
not the same as not hungry! Lucy will tell you that she's ALWAYS
*starving*.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

On Oct 10, 10:24 pm, Ted LeBlond wrote:
On Oct 10, 9:06 pm, diddy none wrote:

put the dog down.

WHAT A NICE KIND CARING PERSON YOU MUST BE. WHY DONT YOU PUT YOURSELF
DOWN.

If you can't afford proper care for an animal than you have no
business owning said animal. If she needs to see a vet, then it is
your responsibility to provide vet care or to give the dog to someone
who can provide it for her.

AND I DO PUT THE FOOD WHERE SHE CANT GET IT. YOU LIKE STUPID OR
SOMETHING?

Then how is she getting it?

Nick

Kimber spoke these words of wisdom in
:

I'm inclined to think this whole thread is "fake". I mean it just
doesn't make any sense that someone who's owned a dog this long doesn't
know about basic care. Even if you did just the bare minimum of putting
a baggie clip on an open package of Oreos and leaving it out on a
kitchen counter, I don't think a beagle could leap up on a counter. My
cat climbs into the pantry every time I open the door and leaps up on
all the shelves and sniffs all the doggie treats. But she can't eat them
because they are in closed packages and my cat doesn't have a
opposable thumbs. Who's STUPID now??!!

Amy

I sensed a bogus factor when I answered, but figured.. WTH, if they are
serious, they would have provided details, so I made my response as serious
and detailed as the question

And yes, Beagle can/do and WILL jump on counters. So you train them not to,
or manage by keeping stuff put away where they can't get things. If my
beagle were breaking into the bread box on the counter, the bread box would
find a new location on top of the refrigerator.
If the beagle were breaking into the bread box on top of the refrigerator,
I'd install babylocks.
If it were breaking into the babylocks on the breadbox on top of the
refrigerator, I'd crate her when I couldn't watch her.
If it were breaking out of the crate into the babylocks on the breadbox on
top of the refrigerator I'd put locks on the crate.
If it were breaking out of the locked crate into the babylocks on the
breadbox on top of the refrigerator I think I would contact Stanley Coren
or IAN DUNBAR and ask them to study my genius beagle, because it was
smarter than I was.


Ted LeBlond wrote:

On Oct 10, 9:06 pm, diddy none wrote:

put the dog down.

WHAT A NICE KIND CARING PERSON YOU MUST BE. WHY DONT YOU PUT YOURSELF
DOWN. AND I DO PUT THE FOOD WHERE SHE CANT GET IT. YOU LIKE STUPID OR
SOMETHING?