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Old October 21st 07, 09:43 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
MauiJNP
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The dog I decided on is with an owner who was not returning my emails or
phone call. I emailed a few days ago. When I emailed, I got no response.
I called a few days later and she didn't have time to talk to me. A man who
helps with the animals answered and spoke to me. I heard her in the
background. She promised to get me pictures and more info via email since
she couldn't talk at the time. The co-owner is prompt with email and phone
calls but is not the one to have the final say and doesn't have physical
possession of the dog currently. I was getting frustrated and thought about
passing on the dog. I emailed the co-owner last night and now found out the
problem (the other owner is having health problems). I am able to be more
patient now that I know this.

However, I am wondering if this is all a bad sign. When the man was on
the phone with me he said the dog is a great dog, great personality, loving,
etc and is his favorite. She's also one of the only ones who knows to go
outside to potty. It sounds like she lives an indoor/outdoor kennel with
fence. I asked the co-owner about the dog, if she was playful, liked
fetch/retreiveing or swimming. I asked how she is off-leash or if she was a
bolter. The co-owner told me she doesn't play fetch with the dogs and
hasn't taken them swimming. She also never lets them off-leash because even
though she has 13 acres, she lost a dog for a few days years ago when
off-leash so just hasn't done it again. She also mentioned the dog has 3
litters of puppies and is a show champion. I don't know what to think. I
really need more info. Not sure how long it will take to get it or if any
of the info I have should be giving red flags or not. I am also seeing why
it might be important to meet the owner and dog in person and if shipping a
dog is not the best idea. It is just so hard because there are not many
people that are close, let alone have an older dog for adoption. Anyway, I
am feeling mixed about all this so wanted to get it down on paper so I can
figure it out.

Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks!


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Old October 21st 07, 11:37 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
pfoley
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"MauiJNP" wrote in message
...
The dog I decided on is with an owner who was not returning my emails

or
phone call. I emailed a few days ago. When I emailed, I got no response.
I called a few days later and she didn't have time to talk to me. A man

who
helps with the animals answered and spoke to me. I heard her in the
background. She promised to get me pictures and more info via email since
she couldn't talk at the time. The co-owner is prompt with email and

phone
calls but is not the one to have the final say and doesn't have physical
possession of the dog currently. I was getting frustrated and thought

about
passing on the dog. I emailed the co-owner last night and now found out

the
problem (the other owner is having health problems). I am able to be more
patient now that I know this.

However, I am wondering if this is all a bad sign. When the man was

on
the phone with me he said the dog is a great dog, great personality,

loving,
etc and is his favorite. She's also one of the only ones who knows to go
outside to potty. It sounds like she lives an indoor/outdoor kennel with
fence. I asked the co-owner about the dog, if she was playful, liked
fetch/retreiveing or swimming. I asked how she is off-leash or if she was

a
bolter. The co-owner told me she doesn't play fetch with the dogs and
hasn't taken them swimming. She also never lets them off-leash because

even
though she has 13 acres, she lost a dog for a few days years ago when
off-leash so just hasn't done it again. She also mentioned the dog has 3
litters of puppies and is a show champion. I don't know what to think. I
really need more info. Not sure how long it will take to get it or if any
of the info I have should be giving red flags or not. I am also seeing

why
it might be important to meet the owner and dog in person and if shipping

a
dog is not the best idea. It is just so hard because there are not many
people that are close, let alone have an older dog for adoption. Anyway,

I
am feeling mixed about all this so wanted to get it down on paper so I can
figure it out.

Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks!

=======
Give them a deadline; tell them there is another dog you are also interested
in. Something sounds fishy.




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Old October 22nd 07, 12:10 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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MauiJNP wrote:

To many red flags.
Trust your instinct when you see red flags.
Find a dog elsewhere.
Meeting the owners and seeing the dog's parents, also, if possible -
the grandparents of the dog, are essential, with so may puppy-millers
out there.
That way, you know what you are getting.
Even then - trust your instincts, not, what the people are telling
you.
Ask for the phone number of the vet the dogs are taken to, if they do
not give the number, do not get a dog from the people.
See what kind of food the dogs are being fed.
Look to see if the place the puppies are kept is clean, if it is not,
do not get a dog from the people.
It is by far the best in the long run - to pick the puppy up yourself.
Flying, is extremely traumatic for puppies, also, the place pups are
put - is not temperature controlled.
In the summer many puppies die from heat, in the winter many puppies
die form cold.
They are put in with the luggage, where temperatures can be lethal to
pups.
By picking up the puppy yourself, the puppy will bond with you
quicker, also, you will be given the pup promised, instead of a pup
that they dump on you by flying.
Many breeders pull this scam, when confronted, they do not give a
refund, they claim it is the pup you wanted, or they hang up on you!

Mirelle
The dog I decided on is with an owner who was not returning my emails or
phone call. I emailed a few days ago. When I emailed, I got no response.
I called a few days later and she didn't have time to talk to me. A man who
helps with the animals answered and spoke to me. I heard her in the
background. She promised to get me pictures and more info via email since
she couldn't talk at the time. The co-owner is prompt with email and phone
calls but is not the one to have the final say and doesn't have physical
possession of the dog currently. I was getting frustrated and thought about
passing on the dog. I emailed the co-owner last night and now found out the
problem (the other owner is having health problems). I am able to be more
patient now that I know this.

However, I am wondering if this is all a bad sign. When the man was on
the phone with me he said the dog is a great dog, great personality, loving,
etc and is his favorite. She's also one of the only ones who knows to go
outside to potty. It sounds like she lives an indoor/outdoor kennel with
fence. I asked the co-owner about the dog, if she was playful, liked
fetch/retreiveing or swimming. I asked how she is off-leash or if she was a
bolter. The co-owner told me she doesn't play fetch with the dogs and
hasn't taken them swimming. She also never lets them off-leash because even
though she has 13 acres, she lost a dog for a few days years ago when
off-leash so just hasn't done it again. She also mentioned the dog has 3
litters of puppies and is a show champion. I don't know what to think. I
really need more info. Not sure how long it will take to get it or if any
of the info I have should be giving red flags or not. I am also seeing why
it might be important to meet the owner and dog in person and if shipping a
dog is not the best idea. It is just so hard because there are not many
people that are close, let alone have an older dog for adoption. Anyway, I
am feeling mixed about all this so wanted to get it down on paper so I can
figure it out.

Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks!


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Old October 22nd 07, 02:39 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
MauiJNP
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Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks!
=======
Give them a deadline; tell them there is another dog you are also
interested
in. Something sounds fishy.


I do believe them and I will wait as long as I am getting the truth. The
owner with possession is having surgery next month. I think it would be
good to have one less dog to take care of when she's recovering, hope she
sees it that way too.


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Old October 22nd 07, 02:40 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"montana wildhack" wrote in message
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On 2007-10-21 16:43:14 -0400, "MauiJNP" said:

She also mentioned the dog has 3 litters of puppies and is a show
champion.


I'd want to see what records there are about this dog, her lines and her
pups. How often was she bred? Has she had three litters in her life? How
old is she?


She is 5, almost 6. She had 3 litters.

We were looking at a dog that had been bred several times but the breeder
didn't want to breed her any more because she felt 2-3 litters from one
dog was plenty and she wanted to use one of the puppies for her breeding
program. If she could find a home for the (spayed) dog, she would. That
dog had been shown to her championship.


Loca is a show champion as well.

At the time, I didn't have time to call around and ask other people in
that breed in that area about the reputation of that breeder. That would
be my advice.


that is good advice. thank you.


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Old October 22nd 07, 04:28 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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I'd want to see what records there are about this dog, her lines and her
pups. How often was she bred? Has she had three litters in her life? How
old is she?


She is 5, almost 6. She had 3 litters.


So it doesn't seem like they were using her to pump out as many puppies as
possible, but she did have a couple of litters close together.


first litter after age 2 I believe, 1 litter a year after that.



We were looking at a dog that had been bred several times but the
breeder didn't want to breed her any more because she felt 2-3 litters
from one dog was plenty and she wanted to use one of the puppies for her
breeding program. If she could find a home for the (spayed) dog, she
would. That dog had been shown to her championship.


Loca is a show champion as well.


They did care about this dog enough to finish her. They didn't just say
she came from "Championship Lines" or some such nonsense...


no, they said she was the champion


But it does sound like with health problems and all, they need some help.


yes, I think so too.


We take dogs as we find them. Most of the time (and I mean that) it works
out just fine.


she sounds like a good dog and her price is incredible so that is a plus as
well. I will be patient but hope this does eventually work out.


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Old October 22nd 07, 05:44 AM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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"MauiJNP" wrote in message
...
Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks!

=======
Give them a deadline; tell them there is another dog you are also
interested
in. Something sounds fishy.


I do believe them and I will wait as long as I am getting the truth. The
owner with possession is having surgery next month. I think it would be
good to have one less dog to take care of when she's recovering, hope she
sees it that way too.



Sorry to hear about the problems you are having. One would think, post
surgery, it would be better to have fewer dogs to care for. Hopefully she
will see it that way too. If it was already stated, I missed it. Was there
a reason the owners were selling this dog?

td






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Old October 22nd 07, 12:31 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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In article .com,
Mirelle wrote:


Meeting the owners and seeing the dog's parents, also, if possible -
the grandparents of the dog, are essential, with so may puppy-millers
out there.
It is by far the best in the long run - to pick the puppy up yourself.
Flying, is extremely traumatic for puppies, also, the place pups are
put - is not temperature controlled.
In the summer many puppies die from heat, in the winter many puppies
die form cold.
They are put in with the luggage, where temperatures can be lethal to
pups.
By picking up the puppy yourself, the puppy will bond with you
quicker, also, you will be given the pup promised, instead of a pup
that they dump on you by flying.
Many breeders pull this scam, when confronted, they do not give a
refund, they claim it is the pup you wanted, or they hang up on you!


Where do you get this stuff?

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Old October 22nd 07, 12:32 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
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Janet Boss wrote:

Where do you get this stuff?


She's a kooky Jerry disciple-cum-butt-sniffer.

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Old October 22nd 07, 09:58 PM posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior
MauiJNP
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Sorry to hear about the problems you are having. One would think, post
surgery, it would be better to have fewer dogs to care for. Hopefully she
will see it that way too. If it was already stated, I missed it. Was
there
a reason the owners were selling this dog?


the dog is a retired show champion and was used for breeding 3 litters. now
she is ready for a forever pet home.


 




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