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dog-getting problems
The dog I decided on is with an owner who was not returning my emails or
phone call. I emailed a few days ago. When I emailed, I got no response. I called a few days later and she didn't have time to talk to me. A man who helps with the animals answered and spoke to me. I heard her in the background. She promised to get me pictures and more info via email since she couldn't talk at the time. The co-owner is prompt with email and phone calls but is not the one to have the final say and doesn't have physical possession of the dog currently. I was getting frustrated and thought about passing on the dog. I emailed the co-owner last night and now found out the problem (the other owner is having health problems). I am able to be more patient now that I know this. However, I am wondering if this is all a bad sign. When the man was on the phone with me he said the dog is a great dog, great personality, loving, etc and is his favorite. She's also one of the only ones who knows to go outside to potty. It sounds like she lives an indoor/outdoor kennel with fence. I asked the co-owner about the dog, if she was playful, liked fetch/retreiveing or swimming. I asked how she is off-leash or if she was a bolter. The co-owner told me she doesn't play fetch with the dogs and hasn't taken them swimming. She also never lets them off-leash because even though she has 13 acres, she lost a dog for a few days years ago when off-leash so just hasn't done it again. She also mentioned the dog has 3 litters of puppies and is a show champion. I don't know what to think. I really need more info. Not sure how long it will take to get it or if any of the info I have should be giving red flags or not. I am also seeing why it might be important to meet the owner and dog in person and if shipping a dog is not the best idea. It is just so hard because there are not many people that are close, let alone have an older dog for adoption. Anyway, I am feeling mixed about all this so wanted to get it down on paper so I can figure it out. Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks! |
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"MauiJNP" wrote in message ... The dog I decided on is with an owner who was not returning my emails or phone call. I emailed a few days ago. When I emailed, I got no response. I called a few days later and she didn't have time to talk to me. A man who helps with the animals answered and spoke to me. I heard her in the background. She promised to get me pictures and more info via email since she couldn't talk at the time. The co-owner is prompt with email and phone calls but is not the one to have the final say and doesn't have physical possession of the dog currently. I was getting frustrated and thought about passing on the dog. I emailed the co-owner last night and now found out the problem (the other owner is having health problems). I am able to be more patient now that I know this. However, I am wondering if this is all a bad sign. When the man was on the phone with me he said the dog is a great dog, great personality, loving, etc and is his favorite. She's also one of the only ones who knows to go outside to potty. It sounds like she lives an indoor/outdoor kennel with fence. I asked the co-owner about the dog, if she was playful, liked fetch/retreiveing or swimming. I asked how she is off-leash or if she was a bolter. The co-owner told me she doesn't play fetch with the dogs and hasn't taken them swimming. She also never lets them off-leash because even though she has 13 acres, she lost a dog for a few days years ago when off-leash so just hasn't done it again. She also mentioned the dog has 3 litters of puppies and is a show champion. I don't know what to think. I really need more info. Not sure how long it will take to get it or if any of the info I have should be giving red flags or not. I am also seeing why it might be important to meet the owner and dog in person and if shipping a dog is not the best idea. It is just so hard because there are not many people that are close, let alone have an older dog for adoption. Anyway, I am feeling mixed about all this so wanted to get it down on paper so I can figure it out. Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks! ======= Give them a deadline; tell them there is another dog you are also interested in. Something sounds fishy. |
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MauiJNP wrote: To many red flags. Trust your instinct when you see red flags. Find a dog elsewhere. Meeting the owners and seeing the dog's parents, also, if possible - the grandparents of the dog, are essential, with so may puppy-millers out there. That way, you know what you are getting. Even then - trust your instincts, not, what the people are telling you. Ask for the phone number of the vet the dogs are taken to, if they do not give the number, do not get a dog from the people. See what kind of food the dogs are being fed. Look to see if the place the puppies are kept is clean, if it is not, do not get a dog from the people. It is by far the best in the long run - to pick the puppy up yourself. Flying, is extremely traumatic for puppies, also, the place pups are put - is not temperature controlled. In the summer many puppies die from heat, in the winter many puppies die form cold. They are put in with the luggage, where temperatures can be lethal to pups. By picking up the puppy yourself, the puppy will bond with you quicker, also, you will be given the pup promised, instead of a pup that they dump on you by flying. Many breeders pull this scam, when confronted, they do not give a refund, they claim it is the pup you wanted, or they hang up on you! Mirelle The dog I decided on is with an owner who was not returning my emails or phone call. I emailed a few days ago. When I emailed, I got no response. I called a few days later and she didn't have time to talk to me. A man who helps with the animals answered and spoke to me. I heard her in the background. She promised to get me pictures and more info via email since she couldn't talk at the time. The co-owner is prompt with email and phone calls but is not the one to have the final say and doesn't have physical possession of the dog currently. I was getting frustrated and thought about passing on the dog. I emailed the co-owner last night and now found out the problem (the other owner is having health problems). I am able to be more patient now that I know this. However, I am wondering if this is all a bad sign. When the man was on the phone with me he said the dog is a great dog, great personality, loving, etc and is his favorite. She's also one of the only ones who knows to go outside to potty. It sounds like she lives an indoor/outdoor kennel with fence. I asked the co-owner about the dog, if she was playful, liked fetch/retreiveing or swimming. I asked how she is off-leash or if she was a bolter. The co-owner told me she doesn't play fetch with the dogs and hasn't taken them swimming. She also never lets them off-leash because even though she has 13 acres, she lost a dog for a few days years ago when off-leash so just hasn't done it again. She also mentioned the dog has 3 litters of puppies and is a show champion. I don't know what to think. I really need more info. Not sure how long it will take to get it or if any of the info I have should be giving red flags or not. I am also seeing why it might be important to meet the owner and dog in person and if shipping a dog is not the best idea. It is just so hard because there are not many people that are close, let alone have an older dog for adoption. Anyway, I am feeling mixed about all this so wanted to get it down on paper so I can figure it out. Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks! |
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Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks!
======= Give them a deadline; tell them there is another dog you are also interested in. Something sounds fishy. I do believe them and I will wait as long as I am getting the truth. The owner with possession is having surgery next month. I think it would be good to have one less dog to take care of when she's recovering, hope she sees it that way too. |
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"montana wildhack" wrote in message news:2007102118053216807-montana@wildhackcominvalid... On 2007-10-21 16:43:14 -0400, "MauiJNP" said: She also mentioned the dog has 3 litters of puppies and is a show champion. I'd want to see what records there are about this dog, her lines and her pups. How often was she bred? Has she had three litters in her life? How old is she? She is 5, almost 6. She had 3 litters. We were looking at a dog that had been bred several times but the breeder didn't want to breed her any more because she felt 2-3 litters from one dog was plenty and she wanted to use one of the puppies for her breeding program. If she could find a home for the (spayed) dog, she would. That dog had been shown to her championship. Loca is a show champion as well. At the time, I didn't have time to call around and ask other people in that breed in that area about the reputation of that breeder. That would be my advice. that is good advice. thank you. |
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I'd want to see what records there are about this dog, her lines and her
pups. How often was she bred? Has she had three litters in her life? How old is she? She is 5, almost 6. She had 3 litters. So it doesn't seem like they were using her to pump out as many puppies as possible, but she did have a couple of litters close together. first litter after age 2 I believe, 1 litter a year after that. We were looking at a dog that had been bred several times but the breeder didn't want to breed her any more because she felt 2-3 litters from one dog was plenty and she wanted to use one of the puppies for her breeding program. If she could find a home for the (spayed) dog, she would. That dog had been shown to her championship. Loca is a show champion as well. They did care about this dog enough to finish her. They didn't just say she came from "Championship Lines" or some such nonsense... no, they said she was the champion But it does sound like with health problems and all, they need some help. yes, I think so too. We take dogs as we find them. Most of the time (and I mean that) it works out just fine. she sounds like a good dog and her price is incredible so that is a plus as well. I will be patient but hope this does eventually work out. |
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"MauiJNP" wrote in message ... Any responses/comments are welcome. Thanks! ======= Give them a deadline; tell them there is another dog you are also interested in. Something sounds fishy. I do believe them and I will wait as long as I am getting the truth. The owner with possession is having surgery next month. I think it would be good to have one less dog to take care of when she's recovering, hope she sees it that way too. Sorry to hear about the problems you are having. One would think, post surgery, it would be better to have fewer dogs to care for. Hopefully she will see it that way too. If it was already stated, I missed it. Was there a reason the owners were selling this dog? td |
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dog-getting problems
In article .com,
Mirelle wrote: Meeting the owners and seeing the dog's parents, also, if possible - the grandparents of the dog, are essential, with so may puppy-millers out there. It is by far the best in the long run - to pick the puppy up yourself. Flying, is extremely traumatic for puppies, also, the place pups are put - is not temperature controlled. In the summer many puppies die from heat, in the winter many puppies die form cold. They are put in with the luggage, where temperatures can be lethal to pups. By picking up the puppy yourself, the puppy will bond with you quicker, also, you will be given the pup promised, instead of a pup that they dump on you by flying. Many breeders pull this scam, when confronted, they do not give a refund, they claim it is the pup you wanted, or they hang up on you! Where do you get this stuff? -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Janet Boss wrote:
Where do you get this stuff? She's a kooky Jerry disciple-cum-butt-sniffer. -- Shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship) http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther) |
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Sorry to hear about the problems you are having. One would think, post
surgery, it would be better to have fewer dogs to care for. Hopefully she will see it that way too. If it was already stated, I missed it. Was there a reason the owners were selling this dog? the dog is a retired show champion and was used for breeding 3 litters. now she is ready for a forever pet home. |
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