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Barking vs non-barking
Reading about Maybe the wonder puppy and some opinions on dogs barking,
made me think about my own preferences. My first dog was a barker. He loved barking at people who went by "his" alley, not just his house and yard. I was ok with that but there were times when his barking was a little problem (like when we were gone for 10 weeks and the housesitter was not there as much as planned). Teddy and Lindy were silent dogs. Rarely a peep out of them, even in play. Then Lucy came along and she's an alert barker, plus she squeals when excited, gives high pitched excited barks, and big ferocious barks when evil dogs pass by (or worse - people without dogs - very suspect!). She has a small high pitched bark to come in, and has never, ever barked to go out Mainly because she doesn't care about going out and could get by with 1-2x/day. Franklin was another silent dog as far as territory or such, but barked at other dogs to get them to play or give up a bone refereed play between other dogs, and sang to many tv shows as well as the coffee grinder. Rudy - he barks at everything that moves. Totally unlike my first Golden. He, like the others, doesn't bark to go out. He has "the look". He also never barks to come in - just waits. His barking is almost exclusively territorial (or semi - get over to the fence and pet me dammit) and then the gruuffff sounds while wrestling with Lucy. While I appreciated my silent duo, I realized that Lucy's alertness had me sleeping a bit better at night and more comfortable when home alone. What I hate is non-stop barking. The kind the dog behind me does when she's miserable. Howling, moaning, barking, all day long. Or dogs at flyball who NEVER shut up. Last weekend, I had to ask someone to move - my ear was literally aching. There's also the "asking" bark vs the "demanding" or "back talk" bark. The prior is fine. The second/third? Not so fine. I would rather a dog was persistent but had the right tone, than to have something not so great happen. Maybe it's subtle and to individual dogs, but I think barking is something that is best channeled rather than squashes outright. -- Janet Boss www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com |
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Janet Boss wrote: What I hate is non-stop barking. The kind the dog behind me does when she's miserable. Howling, moaning, barking, all day long. Or dogs at flyball who NEVER shut up. Last weekend, I had to ask someone to move - my ear was literally aching. Arleigh Reynolds and someone else were joking (or were they?) about ear damage to mushers. His was the biggest dog yard I've ever been in and the noise while he was hooking up was unbelievable. Not only was it impossible to carry on a conversation, it was impossible to communicate with anything other than sign language. I've got a house full of roorooers. I'm fine with that. Except for Saber they're generally quiet except for dinnertime, and then it's Roofest, which is actually kind of fun. -- Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community |
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In my opinion, my dogs have always been close to perfect when it comes
to barking. They bark when there's something out there. They're quiet otherwise. Cubbe comes close to obnoxious barking when there's something small and furry outside, but then one need only lead her to a room where she can't see out a window, and she settles down immediately. If there's a person outside, the pitch of her bark goes down so we know what she's communicating. We have a saying in this house: the dog is not crazy. When we first got Cubbe, we sometimes thought she was barking at nothing, that it was obsessive barking, but that turned out not to be the case. If she's barking, she sees or hears something. It might not be important to us, but it's out there. When the stimulus goes, the dog gets quiet. I have always felt safer in the house with the dog on alert. --Lia |
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I've got a house full of roorooers. I'm fine with that.
Except for Saber they're generally quiet except for dinnertime, and then it's Roofest, which is actually kind of fun. I love Cali's noises, no matter what they are with one exception.... when they do on all day long. Somedays she is so quite that I wish she'd bark. Her howl is particularily cute and I wish she'd do it more. Maui's noises are ok too but not nearly as cute as Cali's. |
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Julia Altshuler wrote:
I have always felt safer in the house with the dog on alert. Oppie had a very loud, deep, sharp bark. He was never an incessant barker, but he could sure get your attention when (a) someone was outside - a good, alerting bark and (b) he wanted something (food) or was excited about something (walk or 'go'). He lost his bark when he had surgery for LP, since one of his vocal cords is tied open. Now he huffs. And he no longer whines, nor sings his 'morning song' - low pitched whines of greeting when we _finally_ woke up in the morning. I never thought I'd say that I miss his bark, but I do. FurPaw -- "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." - Dwight D. Eisenhower To reply, unleash the dog. |
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Janet Boss wrote:
Reading about Maybe the wonder puppy and some opinions on dogs barking, made me think about my own preferences. My first dog was a barker. He loved barking at people who went by "his" alley, not just his house and yard. I was ok with that but there were times when his barking was a little problem (like when we were gone for 10 weeks and the housesitter was not there as much as planned). Teddy and Lindy were silent dogs. Rarely a peep out of them, even in play. Then Lucy came along and she's an alert barker, plus she squeals when excited, gives high pitched excited barks, and big ferocious barks when evil dogs pass by (or worse - people without dogs - very suspect!). She has a small high pitched bark to come in, and has never, ever barked to go out Mainly because she doesn't care about going out and could get by with 1-2x/day. Franklin was another silent dog as far as territory or such, but barked at other dogs to get them to play or give up a bone refereed play between other dogs, and sang to many tv shows as well as the coffee grinder. Rudy - he barks at everything that moves. Totally unlike my first Golden. He, like the others, doesn't bark to go out. He has "the look". He also never barks to come in - just waits. His barking is almost exclusively territorial (or semi - get over to the fence and pet me dammit) and then the gruuffff sounds while wrestling with Lucy. While I appreciated my silent duo, I realized that Lucy's alertness had me sleeping a bit better at night and more comfortable when home alone. What I hate is non-stop barking. The kind the dog behind me does when she's miserable. Howling, moaning, barking, all day long. Or dogs at flyball who NEVER shut up. Last weekend, I had to ask someone to move - my ear was literally aching. Mine quiet down once crated. The BCs, anyhow. I have to cover Cooper's crate with a sheet to get him to shut the hell up and lay down. It also helps keep his freeze-y little self warm. There's also the "asking" bark vs the "demanding" or "back talk" bark. The prior is fine. The second/third? Not so fine. I would rather a dog was persistent but had the right tone, than to have something not so great happen. Maybe it's subtle and to individual dogs, but I think barking is something that is best channeled rather than squashes outright. Zane will occasionally bark defiance at me when I refuse to throw a ball that he dropped three feet away instead of placing it in my hand. It interferes with him getting a running head start on the throw. When I insist he moans and whines and carries on and then, ultimately, complies. If he refuses, the game is over. On the other hand I'm glad that he uses the Big Dog Bark when there's a stranger at the door. |
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It was a while before Muttley barked at all. When he finally was
comfortable enough to utter some sounds, they were like low growls, but then he progressed to his full-throated Big Dog barking. He's generally pretty good about it, and barks only when there is something going on. But that can just mean critters moving around out back, and he will bark or go to the door to be let out (on a tether), and then he will BarkBarkBark and run at whatever was out there, and then spend some time on "guard duty". Then after a while he will usually bark to be let back in. Earlier this evening he had been out for a while, and I heard him barking more than usual, and found that he had wrapped his tether around a small tree halfway up the hill, and it took some effort to get him unhooked. He was much quieter inside for a while after that. So, I'm pretty much OK with his "level" of barking. He will usually tone down if I investigate what his barking is about. And I'm sure he often hears things that I can't, so I feel safer with him as a warning system. Paul and Muttley |
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"Janet Boss" wrote in message news:janet- There's also the "asking" bark vs the "demanding" or "back talk" bark. The prior is fine. The second/third? Not so fine. I would rather a dog was persistent but had the right tone, than to have something not so great happen. Maybe it's subtle and to individual dogs, but I think barking is something that is best channeled rather than squashes outright. Kavik was truly a barker. Not an alarm barker - he never barked for intruders. He barked to communicate. He barked whenever he was happy, which was all the time. He barked when he wanted attention - sometimes asking and somoetimes demanding. He'd bark if the baby cried to tell me the baby was crying (he thought I was deaf or something??). He'd bark if mike and I were hugging and he wanted a hug too. He barked and barked and barked. In the mornings especially, it drove me nuts because I am not a morning person. We often argued over barking in the morning. As I've said I wish I had debarked him when he was younger - he could have barked as much as he liked and I would have been less grumpy trying to change shitty diapers with a samoyed barking behind my head at 7 am. Toklat is an alarm barker. He used to bark at every leaf that flipped down the street but as he's gotten older and more confident and we've worked on "Tok its fine - we hear that, its just the neighbors" he's gotten to be much less reactive to noises outside. He does have a wildman barking level he gets to (for example if there is a moose or a strange dog outside the picture window) that cannot be broken by simple "Tok, I see that, its a moose, leave it" and either crating or a water spray bottle needs to be implemented. Pirate didn't bark the first two weeks we had him. Toklat taught him the joy of barking in the backyard at the neighbor dog (who is one cool character- old akita mix, never makes a sound, just walks up to the corner of the fence where my dogs are freaking out and pisses on their faces through the fence !) and at imaginary intruders in the woods. I actually miss kaviks dreadful, shriek of a bark. It was so high pitched people used to catch up to us on a trail where he had been happily barking and walking or skijoring (he barked continuously for the first couple of miles...) and say "Oh, we thought that was a tiny yippy dog". His breeder, whose heard many multitudes of samoyed bark and said it was the worst thing she ever heard. I just gave her a look and said "You made it." |
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"Paul E. Schoen" spoke these words of wisdom in
: Earlier this evening he had been out for a while, and I heard him barking more than usual, and found that he had wrapped his tether around a small tree halfway up the hill, and it took some effort to get him unhooked. He was much quieter inside for a while after that. Why was he on a tether? You said you built a fence? |
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Barking vs non-barking
"Beth In Alaska" spoke these words of
wisdom in : His breeder, whose heard many multitudes of samoyed bark and said it was the worst thing she ever heard. I just gave her a look and said "You made it." LOL!!! |
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