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So, we all know that a lot of people read "lemon brain" and
couldn't get past that to hear what Donaldson has to say,
and consequently thought she was talking about dogs having
defective brains. She and Ian Dunbar have what looks like a
pretty interesting new video addressing all that dominance
stuff coming from certain popular TV trainers, and Dogwise
has a clip from it up at:
http://www.dogwise.com/video/video.cfm?itemid=DTB966

She opens with "Dogs don't form packs," and my immediate
reaction was "WTF?!?" She then goes on to explain that they
don't form wolf packs, goes into detail into wolf pack
structure, and then says a couple of other things that I
expect will raise some hackles (I made a funny!).

But anyway, I certainly see how she pisses some people off
even though I basically think she's right about an awful
lot. She says stuff that just sounds wrong until she
explains what she means, and a lot of people can't get past
that opening stupid-sounding statement.
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Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

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She opens with "Dogs don't form packs," and my immediate
reaction was "WTF?!?" She then goes on to explain that they
don't form wolf packs, goes into detail into wolf pack
structure, and then says a couple of other things that I
expect will raise some hackles (I made a funny!).

Ha! Um. Yes, raise some hackles, but I think she's correct. We
know a lot about captive wolf packs, and a little about wild ones,
and we extrapolate a whole hell of a lot, then apply it to domestic
dogs.

But anyway, I certainly see how she pisses some people off
even though I basically think she's right about an awful
lot. She says stuff that just sounds wrong until she
explains what she means, and a lot of people can't get past
that opening stupid-sounding statement.

I think she trolls for dramatic effect, which is fine if it hooks
people well enough that they read (or listen) on, but if they don't,
then it sort of defeats the purpose.

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Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

On Nov 11, 8:41 am, (Melinda Shore) wrote:
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So, we all know that a lot of people read "lemon brain" and
couldn't get past that to hear what Donaldson has to say,
and consequently thought she was talking about dogs having
defective brains. She and Ian Dunbar have what looks like a
pretty interesting new video addressing all that dominance
stuff coming from certain popular TV trainers, and Dogwise
has a clip from it up at:http://www.dogwise.com/video/video.cfm?itemid=DTB966

She opens with "Dogs don't form packs," and my immediate
reaction was "WTF?!?" She then goes on to explain that they
don't form wolf packs, goes into detail into wolf pack
structure, and then says a couple of other things that I
expect will raise some hackles (I made a funny!).

But anyway, I certainly see how she pisses some people off
even though I basically think she's right about an awful
lot. She says stuff that just sounds wrong until she
explains what she means, and a lot of people can't get past
that opening stupid-sounding statement.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis -

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

Yes, and Jan Fennell, (the dog listener) draws direct lines from
wolves to dogs, which is really silly. And of course, so much of the
understanding of wolves is myth and misinterpretation, so using the
wrong info to apply to dogs just doubles the trouble.

And by the way, I do see dogs pack up frequently.