I was prepared a few hours ago to post there were now only two dogs. But
after a trip to the Dayton Emergency clinic, we are now only $200 poorer
and brought home a very torb'ed up beagle. We estimate the beagle to be
about 14. This morning she had severe abdominal distress. Pacing, whining,
and crippling spasm, accompanied with the most pitiful moans and groans you
ever heard.

My husband said, if it's serious (LOOK HERE.. ANY PAIN OF THAT MAGNITUDE IS
SERIOUS!) we weren't going to fix it, we would simply put her down. But she
got out yesterday, and indulged in a buffet of horse meadow muffins. She
may be impacted, and it might pass.
I told him she's in pain, and transient or not, we have to do something
about the pain while we wait to see if the issue resolves or not.

So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her up on Torbugesic,
healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan to move things along. We just
treated everything. So if there is improvement, we will assume fixable. If
not.. I will write that "And then there were two" post.

to be continued.....

diddy none wrote in
:

So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her up on
Torbugesic, healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan to move
things along. We just treated everything. So if there is
improvement, we will assume fixable. If not.. I will write that
"And then there were two" post.

to be continued.....

I'm sorry. However it turns out, I hope that it's as pain free as
possible. Poor old girl. Please give her scritches from me.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)

In article , diddy none
wrote:

with reglan to move things along

I swear by canned pumpkin.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Janet Boss spoke these words of wisdom
in :

In article , diddy none
wrote:

with reglan to move things along

I swear by canned pumpkin.


Good idea. I CAN do that. In fact, I just got done canning a bunch of
halloween pumpkins that people were going to throw out, because they might
not last until Thanksgiving. So I put them in a can to insure they WILL
last until Thanksgiving abd then be used,

Since I canned about 7 pumpkins, I have tons of real pumpkin to offer.

The Torbugesic is working it's magic, and she's zoned out and seems very
comfortable. I don't think she would eat right now.. but if she wakes up,
it sure won't hurt to try.

Thanks

So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her up on
Torbugesic,
healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan to move things along. We just
treated everything. So if there is improvement, we will assume fixable.
If
not.. I will write that "And then there were two" post.



Sorry to hear this, hopefully she gets better and the meds help keep her
pain free.

montana wildhack spoke these words of wisdom
in news:2007111113284316807-montana@wildhackcominvalid:

On 2007-11-11 13:00:29 -0500, diddy none said:

We just treated everything. So if there is improvement, we will assume
fixable. If not..

Diddy, I'm sorry to hear that. I know you have mixed feelings about the
Beagle, but still... I'm sorry to hear there's trouble and I hope
things are resolved. I hope the poor Beagle is out of pain soon.



She's doing fine at the moment. Dayton Emergency Clinic has a checkered
history. It's run by Ohio State University, and a lot of the intern vets
serve there during nights and weekends. I know one night, I took Danny in
there 4 times in the same night. He was grieviously ill, and needed life
support, but the bozo on duty didn't listen, put a bandaid on it, and kept
sending him home. But it's an hour and a half to get there, and an hour and
a half home again. 4 trips in one evening/night meant all night travel.
They would patch him, and he would crash before i even got home, and I
would turn around on the highway and head back again.

I've sent some good feedback to OSU on their clinic in Dayton, and I've
sent back some pretty miserable feedback. But knowing most of these vets
are interns.. I make sure I DO feed back after every visit and give them my
critique as a customer.

Today's vet was very down to earth, practical, compassionate, and yet
sensible. Straight talk and common sense. I appreciated his honesty. It
was the kind of old fashioned vetting that i think the average pet owner is
seeking. Most board certified specialists believe they are gods, and are
compelled to fix everything and make you feel like dirt if you don't.

So I went to Ohio State's website to give feedback on today's visit and
comment on this particular vet's experience, and tell him how much I
appreciated him.

I had his name in hand, and then realized, the same person i was writing
to, was the one and same person that handled our case. We had the Big
Kahuna, himself. WOW. If he is the one setting an example of what that
clinic is to be, Dayton Emergency Clinic is finally heading a right
direction.

As for the old girl, There were 3 prime suspect conditions in the old girl.
2 of them, we opted we were not going to treat, the outcome would be
euthanasia. the third will resolve itself in a day or so. Since we opted
not to treat the serious conditions, the vet said, let's not do
diagnostics, lets treat the symptoms and see if they resolve themselves,
and in a day or so, we will have the answer which direction we will take
without all the expensive diagnostics.

The vet was very practical, yet compassionate. He treated her pain, and
gave her antibiotics, and motility enhancers, in essence taking a low level
scattergun approach to all possibilities, and sent her home very much out
of it, but also not in obvious discomfort. In doing so, he also saved us a
bunch of money (even though the visit was $200, it was much cheaper than we
dreaded)

She's sleeping right now, and that's a good thing. I've never been in love
with the beagle, and although I find her a major PITA, she's not the worst
PITA I've ever had, and regardless of how I feel about her, does not
deserve to be in pain. Will know in a day or two how it all works out. We
may need to take her in tomorrow and torb her out one more time. If she
still needs more than one more day, we know the answer, and Tuesday will be
her last.

"diddy" none wrote in message
. ..
montana wildhack spoke these words of
wisdom
in news:2007111113284316807-montana@wildhackcominvalid:

On 2007-11-11 13:00:29 -0500, diddy none said:

We just treated everything. So if there is improvement, we will assume
fixable. If not..

Diddy, I'm sorry to hear that. I know you have mixed feelings about the
Beagle, but still... I'm sorry to hear there's trouble and I hope
things are resolved. I hope the poor Beagle is out of pain soon.



She's doing fine at the moment. Dayton Emergency Clinic has a checkered
history. It's run by Ohio State University, and a lot of the intern vets
serve there during nights and weekends. I know one night, I took Danny in
there 4 times in the same night. He was grieviously ill, and needed life
support, but the bozo on duty didn't listen, put a bandaid on it, and kept
sending him home. But it's an hour and a half to get there, and an hour
and
a half home again. 4 trips in one evening/night meant all night travel.
They would patch him, and he would crash before i even got home, and I
would turn around on the highway and head back again.

I've sent some good feedback to OSU on their clinic in Dayton, and I've
sent back some pretty miserable feedback. But knowing most of these vets
are interns.. I make sure I DO feed back after every visit and give them
my
critique as a customer.

Today's vet was very down to earth, practical, compassionate, and yet
sensible. Straight talk and common sense. I appreciated his honesty. It
was the kind of old fashioned vetting that i think the average pet owner
is
seeking. Most board certified specialists believe they are gods, and are
compelled to fix everything and make you feel like dirt if you don't.

So I went to Ohio State's website to give feedback on today's visit and
comment on this particular vet's experience, and tell him how much I
appreciated him.

I had his name in hand, and then realized, the same person i was writing
to, was the one and same person that handled our case. We had the Big
Kahuna, himself. WOW. If he is the one setting an example of what that
clinic is to be, Dayton Emergency Clinic is finally heading a right
direction.

As for the old girl, There were 3 prime suspect conditions in the old
girl.
2 of them, we opted we were not going to treat, the outcome would be
euthanasia. the third will resolve itself in a day or so. Since we opted
not to treat the serious conditions, the vet said, let's not do
diagnostics, lets treat the symptoms and see if they resolve themselves,
and in a day or so, we will have the answer which direction we will take
without all the expensive diagnostics.

The vet was very practical, yet compassionate. He treated her pain, and
gave her antibiotics, and motility enhancers, in essence taking a low
level
scattergun approach to all possibilities, and sent her home very much out
of it, but also not in obvious discomfort. In doing so, he also saved us a
bunch of money (even though the visit was $200, it was much cheaper than
we
dreaded)

She's sleeping right now, and that's a good thing. I've never been in love
with the beagle, and although I find her a major PITA, she's not the worst
PITA I've ever had, and regardless of how I feel about her, does not
deserve to be in pain. Will know in a day or two how it all works out. We
may need to take her in tomorrow and torb her out one more time. If she
still needs more than one more day, we know the answer, and Tuesday will
be
her last.
===========
Oh those are both awful stories.
Did the Beagle actually eat horse manure? That would have killed me to see
her in such pain; how awful that must have been. What were the two other
conditions?
At age 14, I would agree with you to just keep her free from pain.
I can't believe you traveled an hour and a half four times in one night to
the hospital with Danny? Isn't there any place closer that could have
helped?

"pfoley" spoke these words of wisdom in
:


Did the Beagle actually eat horse manure? That would have killed me to
see
her in such pain; how awful that must have been.

Never saw it, but she climbed out of the fence yesterday and i cought her
out in the horse pasture. And she eats horse poop every chance she gets.

The other two suspicions were cancer, and pyometreitis.
At her age we aren't fighting a pyo. We would put her down.

I can't believe you traveled an hour and a half four times in one night
to
the hospital with Danny? Isn't there any place closer that could have
helped?

No. His local vet was not available. His local vet did not WANT Danny to go
down to DEC if he could handle him. His case to treat properly needed ALL
of his history. Usually if my vet was out of town, he would give me
Danny's records before he left, just in case. But he left suddenly because
his mother was dying. I didn't have enough notice to get his records before
he left.

The BOZO at DEC didn't listen when I started the pertinent discourse, and
assumed he was treating horses when he really WAS treating zebras.

My vet gave em hell when he returned and called them up...

"diddy" none wrote in message
. ..
I was prepared a few hours ago to post there were now only two dogs. But
after a trip to the Dayton Emergency clinic, we are now only $200 poorer
and brought home a very torb'ed up beagle. We estimate the beagle to be
about 14. This morning she had severe abdominal distress. Pacing,
whining,
and crippling spasm, accompanied with the most pitiful moans and groans
you
ever heard.

My husband said, if it's serious (LOOK HERE.. ANY PAIN OF THAT MAGNITUDE
IS
SERIOUS!) we weren't going to fix it, we would simply put her down. But
she
got out yesterday, and indulged in a buffet of horse meadow muffins. She
may be impacted, and it might pass.
I told him she's in pain, and transient or not, we have to do something
about the pain while we wait to see if the issue resolves or not.

So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her up on
Torbugesic,
healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan to move things along. We just
treated everything. So if there is improvement, we will assume fixable.
If
not.. I will write that "And then there were two" post.

to be continued.....

I'm sorry Diddy, the waiting game is one of the toughest to play. I know
you aren't overly attached to her, but after saving her life and watching
her sleep on your couch these last few years, you do have a history with
her.
Kind thoughts and tender wishes for the best resolution are on the way, with
a soft pat and a smile.
Karla

"diddy" none wrote in message
. ..
I was prepared a few hours ago to post there were now only two dogs. But
after a trip to the Dayton Emergency clinic, we are now only $200 poorer
and brought home a very torb'ed up beagle. We estimate the beagle to be
about 14. This morning she had severe abdominal distress. Pacing,
whining,
and crippling spasm, accompanied with the most pitiful moans and groans
you
ever heard.


Sending beagle healthy thoughts her way