"Thank you!", to everyone who commented on the HBC Basset tripod. I'll
try to answered all questions posed in the other two posts and tie up
loose ends tonight.

I couldn't stand the thought of the dog facing the needle tomorrow,
thirsty. So, I went to the shelter just before closing. The dog was
gone. Here is the unbelievable part: somehow, the dog's owners were
contacted, through a third party, on Monday, but did not respond, until
late Tuesday. I was so astonished, I can't even recall the details of
what actually transpired.

The owners stated that the dog was old, and not so badly injured.
Boggle The dog was released to them. They were not cited.They weren't
even charged the $30.00 "return-to-owner fee because they needed the
money for the vet. I don't understand this event.

The shelter director said she was going to check to see if the dog
actually receives medical care, but that might be forgotten by tomorrow.

I'm sorry, but I don't have another shred of information. All things
considered, this is still not a happy ending.

____________________________
If you can't afford the vet, you can't afford the pet.

In article ,
Michael A. Ball wrote:


I'm sorry, but I don't have another shred of information. All things
considered, this is still not a happy ending.

wow.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

"Michael A. Ball" wrote in message
...
"Thank you!", to everyone who commented on the HBC Basset tripod. I'll
try to answered all questions posed in the other two posts and tie up
loose ends tonight.

I couldn't stand the thought of the dog facing the needle tomorrow,
thirsty. So, I went to the shelter just before closing. The dog was
gone. Here is the unbelievable part: somehow, the dog's owners were
contacted, through a third party, on Monday, but did not respond, until
late Tuesday. I was so astonished, I can't even recall the details of
what actually transpired.

The owners stated that the dog was old, and not so badly injured.
Boggle The dog was released to them. They were not cited.They weren't
even charged the $30.00 "return-to-owner fee because they needed the
money for the vet. I don't understand this event.

The shelter director said she was going to check to see if the dog
actually receives medical care, but that might be forgotten by tomorrow.

I'm sorry, but I don't have another shred of information. All things
considered, this is still not a happy ending.

____________________________
If you can't afford the vet, you can't afford the pet.
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Odd. So, they took the dog home with them. That's good. They didn't think
the dog was in that bad a shape. That's bad. I hope someone follows up on
the dog to see that it gets to a vet soon. At least he is still alive but
he definitely needs a hero to step forward and help him. Maybe the owners
will do that, but they sound a little iffy to me.

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:49:26 -0500, "pfoley" wrote:

...Odd. So, they took the dog home with them. That's good. They didn't think
the dog was in that bad a shape. That's bad. I hope someone follows up on
the dog to see that it gets to a vet soon. At least he is still alive but
he definitely needs a hero to step forward and help him. Maybe the owners
will do that, but they sound a little iffy to me.

I do not consider it "good" that this senior dog went home--the same
home that let him lose a leg in a previous car accident, and let him get
hit a second time. Then they took their sweet time coming for him.

I do not expect the shelter to follow up on his welfare.

Yes, the dog is "still alive," which is a wonder to me, but there are
fates worse than death. Such is his fate.

Not to be demeaning, but you seem so unfamiliar with shelter operations
and the dark side of pet ownership. I hope you will look into it.
Perhaps you could become the "hero" such dogs need.


________________________
Whatever it takes.

"Michael A. Ball" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:49:26 -0500, "pfoley" wrote:

...Odd. So, they took the dog home with them. That's good. They didn't
think
the dog was in that bad a shape. That's bad. I hope someone follows up
on
the dog to see that it gets to a vet soon. At least he is still alive but
he definitely needs a hero to step forward and help him. Maybe the owners
will do that, but they sound a little iffy to me.

I do not consider it "good" that this senior dog went home--the same
home that let him lose a leg in a previous car accident, and let him get
hit a second time. Then they took their sweet time coming for him.

I do not expect the shelter to follow up on his welfare.

Yes, the dog is "still alive," which is a wonder to me, but there are
fates worse than death. Such is his fate.

Not to be demeaning, but you seem so unfamiliar with shelter operations
and the dark side of pet ownership. I hope you will look into it.
Perhaps you could become the "hero" such dogs need.


Some of us do not have the stomach for what you do michael.
i just couldn't bear the dogs that i didn't feel anything for (how could i
NOT care about a DOG??) and the ones that i did care about hurt too.

"Beth In Alaska" wrote in message
...

"Michael A. Ball" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:49:26 -0500, "pfoley" wrote:

...Odd. So, they took the dog home with them. That's good. They
didn't think
the dog was in that bad a shape. That's bad. I hope someone follows
up on
the dog to see that it gets to a vet soon. At least he is still alive
but
he definitely needs a hero to step forward and help him. Maybe the
owners
will do that, but they sound a little iffy to me.

I do not consider it "good" that this senior dog went home--the same
home that let him lose a leg in a previous car accident, and let him get
hit a second time. Then they took their sweet time coming for him.

I do not expect the shelter to follow up on his welfare.

Yes, the dog is "still alive," which is a wonder to me, but there are
fates worse than death. Such is his fate.

Not to be demeaning, but you seem so unfamiliar with shelter operations
and the dark side of pet ownership. I hope you will look into it.
Perhaps you could become the "hero" such dogs need.


Some of us do not have the stomach for what you do michael.
i just couldn't bear the dogs that i didn't feel anything for (how could
i NOT care about a DOG??) and the ones that i did care about hurt too.

Before my friend got me involved with Muttley (and his Rottie bitch), and
then Lucky, I had only an "outsider's" interest in dogs, and I enjoyed
other people's dogs, but did not really bond with them. As Helene puts it,
a dog will get his or her paws around your heart, and then you're hooked.
Muttley had me from the time he put his big paws up on the counter, wearing
his funny cone collar, at the SPCA where I had taken him under the premise
that he would be put into an adoption program. When they told me would
almost certainly be PTS, and he looked at me with his big, soft brown eyes,
he had me, and so started my life in the company of a dog. It was a rocky
road, with his aggression toward my cat Photon, and his incidents with
biting the handyman and attacking the dogs in the obedience class, but he
has always been my buddy, and I learned how closely a man and a dog can
become.

Then, having accepted Muttley into my life, I got involved with Lucky, and
she had the potential of being even more affectionate and trainable, but
Muttley wanted me all to himself. It was very difficult for me to give her
up at the shelter, but I knew she was an exceptionally good dog and would
charm someone to take her into their home, and she was at least spared the
fate of being PTS as would have happened at the BARCs shelter in Baltimore.

But I know there are many more dogs out there that are living miserably on
borrowed time, and many in the cages at the SPCA and Humane Society
facilities that are on death row every day. I could not bear to work in
such facilities where animals are being put down regularly because they are
unwanted and there is not enough room or other resources to keep them.
There is probably a special place in "heaven" for those who do their best
to help animals in need, and maybe also an especially horrid place in
"hell", where those who abuse or neglect animals are destined to go.

There is much work to do to try and set the world right. It is a daunting
task, and I applaud all those who make an effort to help. All major
problems, from global warming to violent crime and animal cruelty, will
require a major change in peoples' basic attitudes, and that is a tough row
to hoe. We can try to address these root causes, but in the meantime, we
must just do the best we can to reduce the suffering caused by those who
are misguided, or just genetically flawed to behave in the irresponsible
and reprehensible ways they do.

My thoughts and prayers are with the animals on the street and in shelters,
and with those who work for their welfare.

Paul and Muttley

In article ,
"Paul E. Schoen" wrote:

many in the cages at the SPCA and Humane Society
facilities that are on death row every day.

Only speaking for the MD SPCA, once an animal is accepted, unless
something about it's status changes dramatically (severe illness,
dramatic behavioral change after temperament testing - both very rare),
there is no "death row". This is not animal control. No time limits.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

In article ,
Terri wrote:

Many, many
motels will not allow dogs along the way out of the danger
path either, so an awful lot of them left not thinking
they were abandoning their dogs.

I don't live in a high risk evac location. I am an obsessive planner
however. Which means as long as there was any advance warning of a
disaster (even if the impact was a guess), my car would be appropriately
packed and ready to go, and to accommodate the pets. I have crates
for everyone, and we could live out of the car if needed. Gas would
obviously be an issue, and I would hope that I would have the foresight
to gas up well before the emergency and then head in the right
direction, hoping it would hold out and/or I could get more along the
way.

I have emergency stuff at the ready here, so I can't imagine what I'd be
like if I lived someplace more likely to need it.

--
Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com

Janet Boss wrote:

In article ,
Terri wrote:


Many, many
motels will not allow dogs along the way out of the danger
path either, so an awful lot of them left not thinking
they were abandoning their dogs.


I don't live in a high risk evac location. I am an obsessive planner
however. Which means as long as there was any advance warning of a
disaster (even if the impact was a guess), my car would be appropriately
packed and ready to go, and to accommodate the pets. I have crates
for everyone, and we could live out of the car if needed. Gas would
obviously be an issue, and I would hope that I would have the foresight
to gas up well before the emergency and then head in the right
direction, hoping it would hold out and/or I could get more along the
way.

I have emergency stuff at the ready here, so I can't imagine what I'd be
like if I lived someplace more likely to need it.


I never allow the gas tank on the van to drop below the halfway point.
I store the crates in the rear cargo bay so they don't clutter up the
garage. Their leather leads and their flyball harnesses are in the
passenger section. In my clipboard up front there are copies of the
dogs' shot records and Avid #s as well as a list of phone numbers and
e-mail addresses. There's a well stocked human/canine first aid kit, a
set of jumper cables, a cell phone charger, a CB, a water dish and a
gallon of water and a combination lantern/flashlight under the rear
bench seat.

In my purse I've got my cellphone, a lighter, a flashlight, a can of
pepper spray, a mirror, health insurance ID and a couple of high limit
credit cards. Sun and reading glasses, lipgloss, a hair brush, some
cash, Tums, floss, a pen and a great big permanent marker. And a tennis
ball.

I'd have to waste a few minutes retrieving birth and marriage
certificates, my passport and everybody's SSN cards from the safe, but
basically I think we'd be fairly well prepared if we were forced to
bolt. And a friend of mine recently decided that her husband and sons
should apply for passports. I actually think that this is a good idea
but I think the expense for my husband and kids' documents is going to
be a real hard sell until after the holidays.

Janet Boss said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I don't live in a high risk evac location. I am an
obsessive planner however.

Because I'm *not* an obsessive planner, I'm in the same
situation as you. My van is always ready to go. Other than
food, it's always full of dog stuff (crates, leashes, water) and
summer and winter clothes for me. I'm often on the road with my
dogs and don't want to have to plan the basics.

The only thing I do in winter (and winter is here with a
vengeance) is add winter tires for highway driving and keep the
gas tank full (added weight and condensation issues).

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.