Is it possible for a dog to have a stroke which affects its cognitive skills
but not its motor skills?

My 13 year old Boston is suffering from loss of hearing and cataracts (which
the vet wants to put off fixing for 3 months because she feels they not bad
enough to warrant surgery now). About 10 days ago his personality changed
markedly. At first I thought it was the loss of senses that was the cause
of the change but the changed seemed to take place over night. No interest
in his toys, doesn't do his business where he usually does, no interest in
walking the old paths. And last night he got up at 2 and would not settle
down until 4. He would go from room to room and resisted all efforts to
calm down. He still eats like a horse and otherwise seems healthy. He lets
out little attention getting whines once in a while but I don't believe he
is in any pain (due to his appetite and the whining stops when he gets
attention).

in rec.pets.dogs.health, "harvtran" wrote in
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About 10 days ago his personality changed
markedly. At first I thought it was the loss of senses that was the
cause of the change but the changed seemed to take place over night.
No interest in his toys, doesn't do his business where he usually
does, no interest in walking the old paths. And last night he got up
at 2 and would not settle down until 4. He would go from room to room
and resisted all efforts to calm down. He still eats like a horse and
otherwise seems healthy. He lets out little attention getting whines
once in a while but I don't believe he is in any pain (due to his
appetite and the whining stops when he gets attention).


I am not a vet, but I highly recommend that you go to see a vet!!

--
Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli

"Marcel Beaudoin" wrote in message
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in rec.pets.dogs.health, "harvtran" wrote in
:

About 10 days ago his personality changed
markedly. At first I thought it was the loss of senses that was the
cause of the change but the changed seemed to take place over night.
No interest in his toys, doesn't do his business where he usually
does, no interest in walking the old paths. And last night he got up
at 2 and would not settle down until 4. He would go from room to room
and resisted all efforts to calm down. He still eats like a horse and
otherwise seems healthy. He lets out little attention getting whines
once in a while but I don't believe he is in any pain (due to his
appetite and the whining stops when he gets attention).


I am not a vet, but I highly recommend that you go to see a vet!!

--
Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli

I have and he thought it was Canine Cognitive Dysfunction.

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harvtran wrote:
I have and he thought it was Canine Cognitive Dysfunction.

Why do you think it might be a stroke and not CCD?
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"harvtran" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a dog to have a stroke which affects its cognitive
skills
but not its motor skills?

About 10 days ago his personality changed
markedly.

.......well I guess it could be CCD, but _sudden_ changes in an elderly pup
always warrant a full blood panel AFAIC.

buglady
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"harvtran" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a dog to have a stroke which affects its cognitive
skills but not its motor skills?

My 13 year old Boston is suffering from loss of hearing and cataracts
(which the vet wants to put off fixing for 3 months because she feels they
not bad enough to warrant surgery now). About 10 days ago his personality
changed markedly. At first I thought it was the loss of senses that was
the cause of the change but the changed seemed to take place over night.
No interest in his toys, doesn't do his business where he usually does,
no interest in walking the old paths. And last night he got up at 2 and
would not settle down until 4. He would go from room to room and resisted
all efforts to calm down. He still eats like a horse and otherwise seems
healthy. He lets out little attention getting whines once in a while but
I don't believe he is in any pain (due to his appetite and the whining
stops when he gets attention).


Second night in a row he got up and spent an hour walking around the house -
extremely agitated like he used to be on the forth of July when hearing fire
works. Could be CCD.

But it seemed to come on quickly (November 9th)which would point to a stroke
or outside chance a fast growing tumor.

But motor skills are not affected which points to CCD.

The ophthalmologist said both eyes had the same degree of cataracts which
points to CCD. But he reacts much much better to objects close to his left
eye and seems almost blind in his right which points to a stroke or tumor.

Does not want anything to do with his chew toys which points to CCD. But he
knows to go to the bathroom outside which point back to a stroke or tumor.

Blood panel came back fine less than a month ago.

Going back to the Ophthalmologist as soon as possible. I figure she is
better equipped to test a variety of possible causes than a general vet. My
guess right now is a tumor and if so we will not be bringing him back home.

harvtran wrote:
"harvtran" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a dog to have a stroke which affects its cognitive
skills but not its motor skills?

My 13 year old Boston is suffering from loss of hearing and cataracts
(which the vet wants to put off fixing for 3 months because she feels they
not bad enough to warrant surgery now). About 10 days ago his personality
changed markedly. At first I thought it was the loss of senses that was
the cause of the change but the changed seemed to take place over night.
No interest in his toys, doesn't do his business where he usually does,
no interest in walking the old paths. And last night he got up at 2 and
would not settle down until 4. He would go from room to room and resisted
all efforts to calm down. He still eats like a horse and otherwise seems
healthy. He lets out little attention getting whines once in a while but
I don't believe he is in any pain (due to his appetite and the whining
stops when he gets attention).


Second night in a row he got up and spent an hour walking around the house -
extremely agitated like he used to be on the forth of July when hearing fire
works. Could be CCD.

But it seemed to come on quickly (November 9th)which would point to a stroke
or outside chance a fast growing tumor.

But motor skills are not affected which points to CCD.

The ophthalmologist said both eyes had the same degree of cataracts which
points to CCD. But he reacts much much better to objects close to his left
eye and seems almost blind in his right which points to a stroke or tumor.

Does not want anything to do with his chew toys which points to CCD. But he
knows to go to the bathroom outside which point back to a stroke or tumor.

Blood panel came back fine less than a month ago.

Going back to the Ophthalmologist as soon as possible. I figure she is
better equipped to test a variety of possible causes than a general vet. My
guess right now is a tumor and if so we will not be bringing him back home.

Have you checked his teeth? Grasping at straws here, but his
loss of interest in his chew toys suggested that dental pain
might be a possibility - particularly if he's getting soft food.

I hope you find a solution for your boy.

FurPaw
--
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense
a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
those who are cold and are not clothed."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower

To reply, unleash the dogs.

Or it could be pain. Dogs in pain will act this way they just can't get
comfortable and will pace and pace that along with a personality change can
be an indication of pain. Get the dog to the vets for a full checkup

Celeste

"harvtran" wrote in message
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"Marcel Beaudoin" wrote in message
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in rec.pets.dogs.health, "harvtran" wrote in
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About 10 days ago his personality changed
markedly. At first I thought it was the loss of senses that was the
cause of the change but the changed seemed to take place over night.
No interest in his toys, doesn't do his business where he usually
does, no interest in walking the old paths. And last night he got up
at 2 and would not settle down until 4. He would go from room to room
and resisted all efforts to calm down. He still eats like a horse and
otherwise seems healthy. He lets out little attention getting whines
once in a while but I don't believe he is in any pain (due to his
appetite and the whining stops when he gets attention).


I am not a vet, but I highly recommend that you go to see a vet!!

--
Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli

I have and he thought it was Canine Cognitive Dysfunction.

"harvtran" spoke these words of wisdom in
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"harvtran" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a dog to have a stroke which affects its cognitive
skills but not its motor skills?

My 13 year old Boston is suffering from loss of hearing and cataracts
(which the vet wants to put off fixing for 3 months because she feels
they not bad enough to warrant surgery now). About 10 days ago his
personality changed markedly. At first I thought it was the loss of
senses that was the cause of the change but the changed seemed to take
place over night. No interest in his toys, doesn't do his business
where he usually does, no interest in walking the old paths. And last
night he got up at 2 and would not settle down until 4. He would go
from room to room and resisted all efforts to calm down. He still eats
like a horse and otherwise seems healthy. He lets out little attention
getting whines once in a while but I don't believe he is in any pain
(due to his appetite and the whining stops when he gets attention).


Second night in a row he got up and spent an hour walking around the
house - extremely agitated like he used to be on the forth of July when
hearing fire works. Could be CCD.

But it seemed to come on quickly (November 9th)which would point to a
stroke or outside chance a fast growing tumor.

But motor skills are not affected which points to CCD.

The ophthalmologist said both eyes had the same degree of cataracts
which points to CCD. But he reacts much much better to objects close to
his left eye and seems almost blind in his right which points to a
stroke or tumor.

Does not want anything to do with his chew toys which points to CCD.
But he knows to go to the bathroom outside which point back to a stroke
or tumor.

Blood panel came back fine less than a month ago.

Going back to the Ophthalmologist as soon as possible. I figure she is
better equipped to test a variety of possible causes than a general vet.
My guess right now is a tumor and if so we will not be bringing him
back home.




I hope it is soon esolved and is something simple. If not, I'm so sorry.

"harvtran" wrote in message
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Is it possible for a dog to have a stroke which affects its cognitive
skills but not its motor skills?

..........strokes in dogs aren't all that common. Now that they're doing
MRIs they are finding pets can have ministrokes. Your symptoms don't really
match.

http://www.vetspecialists.co.uk/06_A...cts/Stroke.htm
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But it seemed to come on quickly (November 9th)which would point to a
stroke
or outside chance a fast growing tumor.

...........or endocrine problems.............like Addison's.

Going back to the Ophthalmologist as soon as possible. I figure she is
better equipped to test a variety of possible causes than a general vet.
My
guess right now is a tumor and if so we will not be bringing him back
home.

.........There's no point in guessing. There's lots of other blood tests
that could be done before you assume it's a tumor.

buglady
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